I originally thought the original legislation was fine a few weeks back ... Now I'm completely fine with anyone asking for dr assisted death, it's their life and if for whatever reason if someone decides they don't want to go on living who are we to say they have to...it's their choice.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I thought that was the senates job ... Make amendments to proposed legislation, if not, then we Canadians really are suckers doling out all that money to the upper chamber just to have them rubber stamp everything.
That is their job, and for once they're actually doing it... and the Libs are rejecting their amendment for some fucking reason, even though EVERYONE is making the same recommendations. I'm really getting pissed off!
Go figure ... But good for them
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I'm not aware of any "doctors lobby" opposing the assisted dying issue. Sure, there are individual physicians opposed, like individuals in any walk of life, and many individual physicians in favour. There are some smallish physician lobby groups opposed, and other physician lobby groups in favour. The CMA (Canadian Medical Association) is not opposed; it made recommendations on how legislation could be implemented during the consultation phase. It's true that the CMA did recommend against requiring all physicians to participate in MAID or be willing to refer a provider, but they did recommend that a registry be set up of physicians who provide MAID so that any individual that was interested could find a willing physician without needing to even go through their GP (and believe me, some people might not want to involve their own GP, for complex reasons). The also recommended that hospitals opposed to MAID (read: Catholic hospitals) NOT be allowed to prevent their physicians from performing MAID. So overall, I don't buy the argument that there is a widespread "doctors lobby" advocating against MAID.
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I originally thought the original legislation was fine a few weeks back ... Now I'm completely fine with anyone asking for dr assisted death, it's their life and if for whatever reason if someone decides they don't want to go on living who are we to say they have to...it's their choice.
The problem with this is that an individual's choice is only a real choice if it is freely made and based on accurate information. If you have ever known an elderly or otherwise vulnerable person who is being pressured/abused by their family members, then you might rethink this position. I would also consider that people in the early throes of grief, perhaps due to the death of a life partner or a frightening diagnosis, or individuals with delusional beliefs about death or their own health, might need special protections. That's why the requirements for an assessment of capacity and a waiting period are included, and I'm in favour of them.
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No, I can't (but your "you are not a liberal" quip is silly). It's a ludicrous statement and I don't understand wtf he's talking about (I don't know if all of the context was left out of the quote or what). I hope the Senate fights for this. I'll be doubly disappointed and angry if they bend over.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I guess I was fucking CRAZY to imagine that the Senate might actually do something right for once. Fuck me, and I SO incredibly pissed off about this! It's so frustrating!!!!!!!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Don't know if it's factual ... But I have read the bill on assisted dying is still unconstitutional, so maybe another Supreme Court challenge on the way? And the person who launched the original challenge, under this legislation, would still be required to leave the country to gain assisted dying ... Government is fucking clueless.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Don't know if it's factual ... But I have read the bill on assisted dying is still unconstitutional, so maybe another Supreme Court challenge on the way? And the person who launched the original challenge, under this legislation, would still be required to leave the country to gain assisted dying ... Government is fucking clueless.
If that is the case I will call it "pulling a Harper". Wasting everyones time and money.
Don't know if it's factual ... But I have read the bill on assisted dying is still unconstitutional, so maybe another Supreme Court challenge on the way? And the person who launched the original challenge, under this legislation, would still be required to leave the country to gain assisted dying ... Government is fucking clueless.
Yes, it's not like improvements can't be made in the future, but it will almost certainly be a fight fought by dying, suffering people. Yet more people in pain will be forced to fight for this right in the courts and through the media instead of being able to live their last days in peace until they are ready to let go of their suffering. Meanwhile, all the other people living in horrible pain will be forced to go on living horrible lives. It's disgusting. Yes, this is better than nothing, but it's infuriating to see the government fuck such important legislation up so much for what is, as far as I can tell, no good reason at all.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Don't know if it's factual ... But I have read the bill on assisted dying is still unconstitutional, so maybe another Supreme Court challenge on the way? And the person who launched the original challenge, under this legislation, would still be required to leave the country to gain assisted dying ... Government is fucking clueless.
If that is the case I will call it "pulling a Harper". Wasting everyones time and money.
Totally.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Independent Senator André Pratte said “I am convinced the government is making a serious and cruel mistake,” but conceded that the government would “answer to the people for that error.”
The National Post - Always touching the spidey sense.
Then these senators have answered the age old question about the senate ... What good is it, no good if they'll cave this easily on such an important piece of legislation. Most of these senators are the same senators have been holding up single sports game betting legislation that would help casinos in this country which are often located in hard hit economic areas and that legislation has often passed the elected house ... Time to abolish the senate.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
So again Harpers choices prove the senate is inline with what Canada wants which is elected officials getting the rubber stamp for the will of the people.
So again Harpers choices prove the senate is inline with what Canada wants which is elected officials getting the rubber stamp for the will of the people.
Huh?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
^^^pretty sure Harpo used the senate as place for patronage appointees, just like previous liberal and conservative prime ministers before him ... If he really cared about Canadians then he would have engaged the provinces, 3 territories, Quebec and the First Nations people's in senate reform, but he didn't .... He choose to nothing ... The senate is nothing but a waste of tax $$$ the way it's currently set up, but as far as I'm concerned the current political system is a waste of tax $$$ as well the way it is set up. And electoral reform will leave us scratching our heads.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
^^^ In a nutshell because Harper hand picked some senators he chose ones that would ultimately benefit Canada when put to task.
That's ridiculous. They didn't do anything, haven't you been paying any attention at all?? They almost did something right and then completely dropped the ball and failed Canadians as usual. On an issue that Harper fully opposed in the first place.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
The Supreme Court directed that medical assistance in dying should be available to clearly consenting, competent adults with “grievous and irremediable” medical conditions that are causing enduring suffering that they find intolerable.
^^^so essentially the liberals did the bare minimum ... How Harper like! So essentially they just wait till someone launches a SC challenge ( at their expense)...then maybe the law will be fixed right...it's only time and money...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
^^^so essentially the liberals did the bare minimum ... How Harper like! So essentially they just wait till someone launches a SC challenge ( at their expense)...then maybe the law will be fixed right...it's only time and money...
... and more pain and suffering.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
If you can you are not a liberal
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in Burnaby, B.C. he was “encouraged” by the seriousness of the Senate’s recommendations but with Bill C-14, “we do not want to affect the fundamental balance that we achieved.”
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/senators-set-to-debate-whether-to-concede-or-fight-over-amendments-to-assisted-dying-bill
I hope the Senate fights for this. I'll be doubly disappointed and angry if they bend over.
-10 for senate
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
http://www.onionstudios.com/videos/brain-dead-teen-only-capable-of-rolling-eyes-and-texting-to-be-euthanized-1621
worth a watch
But many of the Senators who voted for the Harder motion appear to have done so reluctantly, saying they didn’t agree with the House of Commons but that the will of elected officials should prevail — a sentiment that would’ve left some in the Liberal government sighing with relief.
Independent Senator André Pratte said “I am convinced the government is making a serious and cruel mistake,” but conceded that the government would “answer to the people for that error.”
The National Post - Always touching the spidey sense.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
In a nutshell because Harper hand picked some senators he chose ones that would ultimately benefit Canada when put to task.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/liberals-will-soon-decide-whether-to-invest-into-navy-submarines-or-to-cut-the-ships-adrift
That was a great investment by our government...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
So what law did you want passed exactly?
What is it that pisses you off so much with the current bill that just became law?
http://globalnews.ca/news/2743221/canadas-doctor-assisted-dying-law-unconstitutional-expert/
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
The Supreme Court directed that medical assistance in dying should be available to clearly consenting, competent adults with “grievous and irremediable” medical conditions that are causing enduring suffering that they find intolerable.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon