Canadian Politics Redux
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And what is it about our current majority govt that was so sly to get them in power.lukin2006 said:
We are not that socialist up here in the north, most likely the only other social program we got that you don't have is universal health care. No one is getting wealthy off, welfare, unemployment insurance, there pensions from the government. Our government up here in the north are sly bastards...they gear programs towards certain people that they feel will generate the most likely odds to win the next election...hell of away to run a country, but its been happening like that for far too long.rgambs said:
Here in America, any attempt to analyze, criticize, regulate or control any financial organization is labelled as a socialist action.1ThoughtKnown said:How is it socialism? We are in debt to the big private banks because of socialism.
All the social programs cost money and if you give someone enough to live on they feel no need to work for it.
If you and I all had 500 people in a commune and we all grew our own food and everyone had a right to it, what do you think would happen? Some of us would work hard, some would work less and some not at all. Yet we all have a right to the harvest.
Modern socialism is the same except we go to work, we pay our taxes. Some people work more, and pay more, some work less and pay less and some don't work at all.
But everyone has a "right" to a certain standard of living. Do they? Or do they have to work for it?
Victoria is talking about the people who work for it not getting fucked over, not the lazy who do not want to work for it. That's my take anyways.
What programs have they geared towards people?
I hope ABC is not the answer.0 -
Easy...23 billion bribe towards families, target tax cuts to certain income groups...on and on, the current government is conservative light...thats all we do switch between conservatives and liberals, what a fine job they've done.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
And what is it about our current majority govt that was so sly to get them in power.lukin2006 said:
We are not that socialist up here in the north, most likely the only other social program we got that you don't have is universal health care. No one is getting wealthy off, welfare, unemployment insurance, there pensions from the government. Our government up here in the north are sly bastards...they gear programs towards certain people that they feel will generate the most likely odds to win the next election...hell of away to run a country, but its been happening like that for far too long.rgambs said:
Here in America, any attempt to analyze, criticize, regulate or control any financial organization is labelled as a socialist action.1ThoughtKnown said:How is it socialism? We are in debt to the big private banks because of socialism.
All the social programs cost money and if you give someone enough to live on they feel no need to work for it.
If you and I all had 500 people in a commune and we all grew our own food and everyone had a right to it, what do you think would happen? Some of us would work hard, some would work less and some not at all. Yet we all have a right to the harvest.
Modern socialism is the same except we go to work, we pay our taxes. Some people work more, and pay more, some work less and pay less and some don't work at all.
But everyone has a "right" to a certain standard of living. Do they? Or do they have to work for it?
Victoria is talking about the people who work for it not getting fucked over, not the lazy who do not want to work for it. That's my take anyways.
What programs have they geared towards people?
I hope ABC is not the answer.I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon0 -
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Clearly that's the mix our country is made of. The liberals were given a heavy-handed majority.
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these last seven pages have been a real eye opener. Galati is a champ! Great stuff and be civil with each other.I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.0
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I said it was my take. She did not say it exactly. That is therefore a "take" on what she said.lukin2006 said:
I watched the entire video, where in the video was this said?1ThoughtKnown said:
Victoria is talking about the people who work for it not getting fucked over, not the lazy who do not want to work for it. That's my take anyways.
Now how did I come to that conclusion? Well, she is correct that poverty is man made and we can eradicate it. ONLY we can. The resources belong to the people of the country. They work to produce them however the system is set up to steal from those citizens. From the criminal bankers to the governments and corporations who pillage the developing world.
She is saying to allow them to produce the resources and products themselves, not corporations and banks working with despot world leaders who pocket all the money for themselves. Think of Brazil and what is going on with Petrobras.
It is not about socialism, it is about allowing the people who live in those countries to reap the benefit of their own resources.
Pulling them out of poverty.Post edited by 1ThoughtKnown on0 -
Right on bud!! I'm utterly convinced Galati is a modern hero. I have donated to the COMER cause to help the guy out. Who would have thunk a lawyer could be a hero?TalonTedd said:these last seven pages have been a real eye opener. Galati is a champ! Great stuff and be civil with each other.
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What I have said all along, it doesn't matter. Politicians are all on the take.lukin2006 said:
Easy...23 billion bribe towards families, target tax cuts to certain income groups...on and on, the current government is conservative light...thats all we do switch between conservatives and liberals, what a fine job they've done.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
And what is it about our current majority govt that was so sly to get them in power.lukin2006 said:
We are not that socialist up here in the north, most likely the only other social program we got that you don't have is universal health care. No one is getting wealthy off, welfare, unemployment insurance, there pensions from the government. Our government up here in the north are sly bastards...they gear programs towards certain people that they feel will generate the most likely odds to win the next election...hell of away to run a country, but its been happening like that for far too long.rgambs said:
Here in America, any attempt to analyze, criticize, regulate or control any financial organization is labelled as a socialist action.1ThoughtKnown said:How is it socialism? We are in debt to the big private banks because of socialism.
All the social programs cost money and if you give someone enough to live on they feel no need to work for it.
If you and I all had 500 people in a commune and we all grew our own food and everyone had a right to it, what do you think would happen? Some of us would work hard, some would work less and some not at all. Yet we all have a right to the harvest.
Modern socialism is the same except we go to work, we pay our taxes. Some people work more, and pay more, some work less and pay less and some don't work at all.
But everyone has a "right" to a certain standard of living. Do they? Or do they have to work for it?
Victoria is talking about the people who work for it not getting fucked over, not the lazy who do not want to work for it. That's my take anyways.
What programs have they geared towards people?
I hope ABC is not the answer.
Trudeau is making a stronger middle class alright. Of course, not by lifting the lower class into the middle but by dragging the people who have almost clawed their way out of the middle back in by taxing the shit out of them. Brilliant. They said the term "middle class" 113 times in the budget speech. Strive for the middle Canada!!0 -
Not to mention the targeted EI to certain hard hit areas, not here in Southern Ontario, we've been dealing with the collapse of manufacturing for the last 10 years...I did not think he was like our current liberal government, but he's just the same. Like I've said the people who voted him in got what they wanted out of that budget...whats missing your budget deficit by 20 billion, they need to hire accountants at the liberal headquarters.1ThoughtKnown said:
What I have said all along, it doesn't matter. Politicians are all on the take.lukin2006 said:
Easy...23 billion bribe towards families, target tax cuts to certain income groups...on and on, the current government is conservative light...thats all we do switch between conservatives and liberals, what a fine job they've done.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
And what is it about our current majority govt that was so sly to get them in power.lukin2006 said:
We are not that socialist up here in the north, most likely the only other social program we got that you don't have is universal health care. No one is getting wealthy off, welfare, unemployment insurance, there pensions from the government. Our government up here in the north are sly bastards...they gear programs towards certain people that they feel will generate the most likely odds to win the next election...hell of away to run a country, but its been happening like that for far too long.rgambs said:
Here in America, any attempt to analyze, criticize, regulate or control any financial organization is labelled as a socialist action.1ThoughtKnown said:How is it socialism? We are in debt to the big private banks because of socialism.
All the social programs cost money and if you give someone enough to live on they feel no need to work for it.
If you and I all had 500 people in a commune and we all grew our own food and everyone had a right to it, what do you think would happen? Some of us would work hard, some would work less and some not at all. Yet we all have a right to the harvest.
Modern socialism is the same except we go to work, we pay our taxes. Some people work more, and pay more, some work less and pay less and some don't work at all.
But everyone has a "right" to a certain standard of living. Do they? Or do they have to work for it?
Victoria is talking about the people who work for it not getting fucked over, not the lazy who do not want to work for it. That's my take anyways.
What programs have they geared towards people?
I hope ABC is not the answer.
Trudeau is making a stronger middle class alright. Of course, not by lifting the lower class into the middle but by dragging the people who have almost clawed their way out of the middle back in by taxing the shit out of them. Brilliant. They said the term "middle class" 113 times in the budget speech. Strive for the middle Canada!!
We need a new national party...imo...one that would represent all Canadians...whether they voted for them or not, but thats just a dream.I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon0 -
well ... he promised within a year some action on electoral reform ... minority gov'ts would probably serve us best ...lukin2006 said:
Not to mention the targeted EI to certain hard hit areas, not here in Southern Ontario, we've been dealing with the collapse of manufacturing for the last 10 years...I did not think he was like our current liberal government, but he's just the same. Like I've said the people who voted him in got what they wanted out of that budget...whats missing your budget deficit by 20 billion, they need to hire accountants at the liberal headquarters.1ThoughtKnown said:
What I have said all along, it doesn't matter. Politicians are all on the take.lukin2006 said:
Easy...23 billion bribe towards families, target tax cuts to certain income groups...on and on, the current government is conservative light...thats all we do switch between conservatives and liberals, what a fine job they've done.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
And what is it about our current majority govt that was so sly to get them in power.lukin2006 said:
We are not that socialist up here in the north, most likely the only other social program we got that you don't have is universal health care. No one is getting wealthy off, welfare, unemployment insurance, there pensions from the government. Our government up here in the north are sly bastards...they gear programs towards certain people that they feel will generate the most likely odds to win the next election...hell of away to run a country, but its been happening like that for far too long.rgambs said:
Here in America, any attempt to analyze, criticize, regulate or control any financial organization is labelled as a socialist action.1ThoughtKnown said:How is it socialism? We are in debt to the big private banks because of socialism.
All the social programs cost money and if you give someone enough to live on they feel no need to work for it.
If you and I all had 500 people in a commune and we all grew our own food and everyone had a right to it, what do you think would happen? Some of us would work hard, some would work less and some not at all. Yet we all have a right to the harvest.
Modern socialism is the same except we go to work, we pay our taxes. Some people work more, and pay more, some work less and pay less and some don't work at all.
But everyone has a "right" to a certain standard of living. Do they? Or do they have to work for it?
Victoria is talking about the people who work for it not getting fucked over, not the lazy who do not want to work for it. That's my take anyways.
What programs have they geared towards people?
I hope ABC is not the answer.
Trudeau is making a stronger middle class alright. Of course, not by lifting the lower class into the middle but by dragging the people who have almost clawed their way out of the middle back in by taxing the shit out of them. Brilliant. They said the term "middle class" 113 times in the budget speech. Strive for the middle Canada!!
We need a new national party...imo...one that would represent all Canadians...whether they voted for them or not, but thats just a dream.0 -
yes he did...but he's already ruled out a referendum on the issue. Do you trust him to be the one to guide us through electoral reform? My opinion, it's our country, the politicians can have there little committees on electoral reform, put together 3 plans for electoral reform, let the people decide...simple as that.polaris_x said:
well ... he promised within a year some action on electoral reform ... minority gov'ts would probably serve us best ...lukin2006 said:
Not to mention the targeted EI to certain hard hit areas, not here in Southern Ontario, we've been dealing with the collapse of manufacturing for the last 10 years...I did not think he was like our current liberal government, but he's just the same. Like I've said the people who voted him in got what they wanted out of that budget...whats missing your budget deficit by 20 billion, they need to hire accountants at the liberal headquarters.1ThoughtKnown said:
What I have said all along, it doesn't matter. Politicians are all on the take.lukin2006 said:
Easy...23 billion bribe towards families, target tax cuts to certain income groups...on and on, the current government is conservative light...thats all we do switch between conservatives and liberals, what a fine job they've done.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
And what is it about our current majority govt that was so sly to get them in power.lukin2006 said:
We are not that socialist up here in the north, most likely the only other social program we got that you don't have is universal health care. No one is getting wealthy off, welfare, unemployment insurance, there pensions from the government. Our government up here in the north are sly bastards...they gear programs towards certain people that they feel will generate the most likely odds to win the next election...hell of away to run a country, but its been happening like that for far too long.rgambs said:
Here in America, any attempt to analyze, criticize, regulate or control any financial organization is labelled as a socialist action.1ThoughtKnown said:How is it socialism? We are in debt to the big private banks because of socialism.
All the social programs cost money and if you give someone enough to live on they feel no need to work for it.
If you and I all had 500 people in a commune and we all grew our own food and everyone had a right to it, what do you think would happen? Some of us would work hard, some would work less and some not at all. Yet we all have a right to the harvest.
Modern socialism is the same except we go to work, we pay our taxes. Some people work more, and pay more, some work less and pay less and some don't work at all.
But everyone has a "right" to a certain standard of living. Do they? Or do they have to work for it?
Victoria is talking about the people who work for it not getting fucked over, not the lazy who do not want to work for it. That's my take anyways.
What programs have they geared towards people?
I hope ABC is not the answer.
Trudeau is making a stronger middle class alright. Of course, not by lifting the lower class into the middle but by dragging the people who have almost clawed their way out of the middle back in by taxing the shit out of them. Brilliant. They said the term "middle class" 113 times in the budget speech. Strive for the middle Canada!!
We need a new national party...imo...one that would represent all Canadians...whether they voted for them or not, but thats just a dream.I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon0 -
ya ... not sure you read the thread on POTUS for a day ... i basically said i would institute some online means of voicing opinions on issues ... maybe not necessarily referendum but a means to poll the public ...lukin2006 said:
yes he did...but he's already ruled out a referendum on the issue. Do you trust him to be the one to guide us through electoral reform? My opinion, it's our country, the politicians can have there little committees on electoral reform, put together 3 plans for electoral reform, let the people decide...simple as that.polaris_x said:
well ... he promised within a year some action on electoral reform ... minority gov'ts would probably serve us best ...lukin2006 said:
Not to mention the targeted EI to certain hard hit areas, not here in Southern Ontario, we've been dealing with the collapse of manufacturing for the last 10 years...I did not think he was like our current liberal government, but he's just the same. Like I've said the people who voted him in got what they wanted out of that budget...whats missing your budget deficit by 20 billion, they need to hire accountants at the liberal headquarters.1ThoughtKnown said:
What I have said all along, it doesn't matter. Politicians are all on the take.lukin2006 said:
Easy...23 billion bribe towards families, target tax cuts to certain income groups...on and on, the current government is conservative light...thats all we do switch between conservatives and liberals, what a fine job they've done.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
And what is it about our current majority govt that was so sly to get them in power.lukin2006 said:
We are not that socialist up here in the north, most likely the only other social program we got that you don't have is universal health care. No one is getting wealthy off, welfare, unemployment insurance, there pensions from the government. Our government up here in the north are sly bastards...they gear programs towards certain people that they feel will generate the most likely odds to win the next election...hell of away to run a country, but its been happening like that for far too long.rgambs said:
Here in America, any attempt to analyze, criticize, regulate or control any financial organization is labelled as a socialist action.1ThoughtKnown said:How is it socialism? We are in debt to the big private banks because of socialism.
All the social programs cost money and if you give someone enough to live on they feel no need to work for it.
If you and I all had 500 people in a commune and we all grew our own food and everyone had a right to it, what do you think would happen? Some of us would work hard, some would work less and some not at all. Yet we all have a right to the harvest.
Modern socialism is the same except we go to work, we pay our taxes. Some people work more, and pay more, some work less and pay less and some don't work at all.
But everyone has a "right" to a certain standard of living. Do they? Or do they have to work for it?
Victoria is talking about the people who work for it not getting fucked over, not the lazy who do not want to work for it. That's my take anyways.
What programs have they geared towards people?
I hope ABC is not the answer.
Trudeau is making a stronger middle class alright. Of course, not by lifting the lower class into the middle but by dragging the people who have almost clawed their way out of the middle back in by taxing the shit out of them. Brilliant. They said the term "middle class" 113 times in the budget speech. Strive for the middle Canada!!
We need a new national party...imo...one that would represent all Canadians...whether they voted for them or not, but thats just a dream.
having said that - it's electoral reform ... the proof will be in the pudding ... anything that allows for minority representation and doesn't force us to vote strategically will be a major improvement ...0 -
Any electoral reform will only benefit the Liberals. You can bank on that.0
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Any liberal will bank on the money that may or may not come.1ThoughtKnown said:Any electoral reform will only benefit the Liberals. You can bank on that.
You can bank on that.0 -
agree1ThoughtKnown said:Any electoral reform will only benefit the Liberals. You can bank on that.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon0 -
any electoral reforms should be decided by the people...not the politiciansI have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon0 -
Well our majority govt was decided by the people, for the people.lukin2006 said:any electoral reforms should be decided by the people...not the politicians
And our majority govt was voted in with a promise for electoral reform.
Our majority is liberal I guess.
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http://resourceclips.com/2016/03/23/from-carbon-tax-to-blood-tax/
This guy makes so much sense. A well written column. If anyone can argue this point I would love to hear how.0 -
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Clearly this article is written by a racist.
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what are your thoughts on this article? ...1ThoughtKnown said:http://resourceclips.com/2016/03/23/from-carbon-tax-to-blood-tax/
This guy makes so much sense. A well written column. If anyone can argue this point I would love to hear how.
are you in favour of banning saudi oil? maybe ban trade with Israel, China, Indonesia, etc?0 -
?? OddPJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Clearly this article is written by a racist.0
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