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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    dudeman said:

    His had stick mags. Thirty rounds, IIRC. He sold that gun back to the dealer and bought a WASR AK-variant.

    I wasn't very impressed with that, either. Short LOP, rough assembly and not accurate. I know some AK's are accurate but I haven't shot one yet.

    He has a Browning BAR Longtrac in 30.06 that shoots like a laser.

    ANYTHING Browning puts out has been really good. Nice choice.

    For an AK you really need to go pre ban. Some people will argue but Norinco even made a good version of it.
    Egyptian and Russian made are top notch.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    do super soakers count?
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    Jason P said:

    do super soakers count?

    What model, lol.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    mcgruff10 said:

    I have the following:

    A bunch of semi auto and bolt action .22 s
    12/16/20 gauge shot gone. Pump , semi auto and side by side
    .556 Orc ready m&p ar
    .50 cal muzzleloader
    Stoegar cougar 9mm

    WW2 rifles include:
    2 m1 Springfield garand. 1942 Amd 1945
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 1941
    Mauser k98 1943
    Model 1903 Springfield 1942

    Lots to go!!!

    McGruff have you ever seen or fired a Galil or an AUG?

    Both are beautiful 5.56 rifles.

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    tempo_n_groove said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I have the following:

    A bunch of semi auto and bolt action .22 s
    12/16/20 gauge shot gone. Pump , semi auto and side by side
    .556 Orc ready m&p ar
    .50 cal muzzleloader
    Stoegar cougar 9mm

    WW2 rifles include:
    2 m1 Springfield garand. 1942 Amd 1945
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 1941
    Mauser k98 1943
    Model 1903 Springfield 1942

    Lots to go!!!

    McGruff have you ever seen or fired a Galil or an AUG?

    Both are beautiful 5.56 rifles.

    No I never even heard of it. I m sure they are banned in communist New Jersey.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited December 2015
    Great thread! Any of you guys do any long distance competition shooting or into reloading your own ammo? If you are looking to get an AR these days, I suggest building your own. There are so many options (calibers, barrel length, twist rates, BCGs, etc) to choose from to "personalize" it. I grew up shooting competitively for 4H and have hunted since roughly the age of 10. Father was a hunter's Ed teacher and firearm instructor. Always like hearing about others experiences. I'm not one to list out all of my firearms to others, but if if anyone needs help with a build, I can point you in the right direction :)
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    I reload but I haven't gotten into long range shooting yet. The longest range I have any where near me is 200 yards. That's the distance I zero my 308's at and both of them are 1/2 MOA rifles. Not much of a challenge shooting nickel-sized groups with them.

    Consequently, I don't take the rifles out very often. Couple times a year, maybe.

    I'm working on a Remington 700 build and I just got the action and bolt back from getting blue printed and trued.

    Once it's done, I plan to either find a good range with some distance or I'll buy some property in the sticks and build my own.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    Dudeman are you close to nj? I need someone to teach me how to reload! 30.06 is freaking expensive!!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    I'm in sunny Florida.

    Reloading can really pay for itself pretty quickly if you shoot a lot. It's pretty rewarding, too. My target loads for 9mm cost 12.8 cents per round and are more consistent and accurate than the dollar per round premium ammo available down here.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:

    Dudeman are you close to nj? I need someone to teach me how to reload! 30.06 is freaking expensive!!!!

    If I may chime in, a good first step is to get a new version of a reloading manual (I prefer Hornady or RCBS) and read it front to back. It is a rewarding process and you can get much better and more accuracy from your own loads, but close attention needs to be payed to the steps and things to look for to judge the integrity of used brass. Definitely good to get with someone who has done it before or even take a local class if offered.

  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    For sure. It's all about safety and paying close attention to every step is absolutely key. You need to minimize distractions. No TV, friends hanging around, multi-tasking etc..

    In addition to getting a reloading manual, I have found books that compile all of the loads from the different manuals into a single caliber publication. These books are a quick reference to cross check the suitability of various powders, bullets and seating depths.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/185458/loadbooks-usa-9mm-luger-reloading-manual

    I was able to learn what I needed to know from online forums and lots of reading. Something I came across a lot is to find a recipe for a load, reduce the powder charge in the recipe by 10% and gradually work your way up to a load that functions in your gun while giving you the accuracy you need.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dudeman said:

    For sure. It's all about safety and paying close attention to every step is absolutely key. You need to minimize distractions. No TV, friends hanging around, multi-tasking etc..

    In addition to getting a reloading manual, I have found books that compile all of the loads from the different manuals into a single caliber publication. These books are a quick reference to cross check the suitability of various powders, bullets and seating depths.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/185458/loadbooks-usa-9mm-luger-reloading-manual

    I was able to learn what I needed to know from online forums and lots of reading. Something I came across a lot is to find a recipe for a load, reduce the powder charge in the recipe by 10% and gradually work your way up to a load that functions in your gun while giving you the accuracy you need.

    The 10% rule is most definitely advised. Ever toyed with any wildcat rounds? I built a 7.62x40 (Wilson Combat) as my wild boar brush gun. Essentially has the same ballistics as a 30-30, but uses a trimmed and widened 5.56 casing. Great ballistics with the Barnes TSX 110 grains. It has actually become my preferred hunting rifle as of late. Very similar to the 300 Blackout, but designed for the faster bullets.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    For sure. It's all about safety and paying close attention to every step is absolutely key. You need to minimize distractions. No TV, friends hanging around, multi-tasking etc..

    In addition to getting a reloading manual, I have found books that compile all of the loads from the different manuals into a single caliber publication. These books are a quick reference to cross check the suitability of various powders, bullets and seating depths.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/185458/loadbooks-usa-9mm-luger-reloading-manual

    I was able to learn what I needed to know from online forums and lots of reading. Something I came across a lot is to find a recipe for a load, reduce the powder charge in the recipe by 10% and gradually work your way up to a load that functions in your gun while giving you the accuracy you need.

    The 10% rule is most definitely advised. Ever toyed with any wildcat rounds? I built a 7.62x40 (Wilson Combat) as my wild boar brush gun. Essentially has the same ballistics as a 30-30, but uses a trimmed and widened 5.56 casing. Great ballistics with the Barnes TSX 110 grains. It has actually become my preferred hunting rifle as of late. Very similar to the 300 Blackout, but designed for the faster bullets.
    Very cool! I love talking shop!!!
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    For sure. It's all about safety and paying close attention to every step is absolutely key. You need to minimize distractions. No TV, friends hanging around, multi-tasking etc..

    In addition to getting a reloading manual, I have found books that compile all of the loads from the different manuals into a single caliber publication. These books are a quick reference to cross check the suitability of various powders, bullets and seating depths.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/185458/loadbooks-usa-9mm-luger-reloading-manual

    I was able to learn what I needed to know from online forums and lots of reading. Something I came across a lot is to find a recipe for a load, reduce the powder charge in the recipe by 10% and gradually work your way up to a load that functions in your gun while giving you the accuracy you need.

    The 10% rule is most definitely advised. Ever toyed with any wildcat rounds? I built a 7.62x40 (Wilson Combat) as my wild boar brush gun. Essentially has the same ballistics as a 30-30, but uses a trimmed and widened 5.56 casing. Great ballistics with the Barnes TSX 110 grains. It has actually become my preferred hunting rifle as of late. Very similar to the 300 Blackout, but designed for the faster bullets.
    Did you build that on an AR platform? It sounds cool!

    I haven't had any experience with wildcat rounds but I'd love to be a part of the testing and evaluation phase.

    I'd like to build an AR-10 someday, too. I'd probably go with a piston system instead of DIGS and I'd need to find a chrome-lined, hammer-forged barrel for it. I had the chance to shoot an FN SCAR 17S and it was pretty awesome so I'd like something close to that that I could build myself.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    What s the difference between an ar 10/15? You guys are teaching me a lot!!!! It s amazing how much one doesn't know on a subject!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    edited December 2015
    AR-10 pattern rifles typically are chambered for the 308 Winchester/7.62x51.

    They share basic design principles and features with AR-15's, just scaled up to handle the larger and more-powerful rounds.
    Post edited by dudeman on
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    dudeman said:

    AR-10 pattern rifles typically are chambered for the 308 Winchester/7.62x51.

    They share basic design principles and features with AR-15's, just scaled up to handle the larger and more-powerful rounds.

    That s an expensive day on the range!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    Yeah man. Those bigger calibers put the hurt on the wallet in short order.

    There is a company, NEMO Arms maybe, that makes an AR-pattern rifle in 300 Win. Mag.. I think it's called the Omen or something. I checked one out at my old LGS. That thing was a beast! Outfitted with a Nightforce NXS optic it cost almost $6,000.00. With factory ammo prices at around $2.00/round, you better have a healthy bank account to take that to the range very often.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • Asterisk on the Street
    Asterisk on the Street Posts: 849
    brianlux said:

    Wrigley's Spearmint.

    :lol:

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