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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    For sure. It's all about safety and paying close attention to every step is absolutely key. You need to minimize distractions. No TV, friends hanging around, multi-tasking etc..

    In addition to getting a reloading manual, I have found books that compile all of the loads from the different manuals into a single caliber publication. These books are a quick reference to cross check the suitability of various powders, bullets and seating depths.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/185458/loadbooks-usa-9mm-luger-reloading-manual

    I was able to learn what I needed to know from online forums and lots of reading. Something I came across a lot is to find a recipe for a load, reduce the powder charge in the recipe by 10% and gradually work your way up to a load that functions in your gun while giving you the accuracy you need.

    The 10% rule is most definitely advised. Ever toyed with any wildcat rounds? I built a 7.62x40 (Wilson Combat) as my wild boar brush gun. Essentially has the same ballistics as a 30-30, but uses a trimmed and widened 5.56 casing. Great ballistics with the Barnes TSX 110 grains. It has actually become my preferred hunting rifle as of late. Very similar to the 300 Blackout, but designed for the faster bullets.
    Have you ever done, bought or heard of the AR-15 conversion kit to make it a single shot 50cal?

    I saw this at a gun show and was wondering if anyone actually tried and used it?

    Thanks
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    tempo_n_groove said:

    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    For sure. It's all about safety and paying close attention to every step is absolutely key. You need to minimize distractions. No TV, friends hanging around, multi-tasking etc..

    In addition to getting a reloading manual, I have found books that compile all of the loads from the different manuals into a single caliber publication. These books are a quick reference to cross check the suitability of various powders, bullets and seating depths.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/185458/loadbooks-usa-9mm-luger-reloading-manual

    I was able to learn what I needed to know from online forums and lots of reading. Something I came across a lot is to find a recipe for a load, reduce the powder charge in the recipe by 10% and gradually work your way up to a load that functions in your gun while giving you the accuracy you need.

    The 10% rule is most definitely advised. Ever toyed with any wildcat rounds? I built a 7.62x40 (Wilson Combat) as my wild boar brush gun. Essentially has the same ballistics as a 30-30, but uses a trimmed and widened 5.56 casing. Great ballistics with the Barnes TSX 110 grains. It has actually become my preferred hunting rifle as of late. Very similar to the 300 Blackout, but designed for the faster bullets.
    Have you ever done, bought or heard of the AR-15 conversion kit to make it a single shot 50cal?

    I saw this at a gun show and was wondering if anyone actually tried and used it?

    Thanks
    I have seen that! Crazy what people are designing. I've been eyeballing the 458 SOCOM aka "hog slayer" as a new build/reloading venture. Thing is a beast!
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    Are there any good rifles out there that are chambered in 9mm?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    edited December 2015
    The Beretta CX4 carbines seem to be well liked. I think Rock River Arms makes a 9mm chambered AR and the old Marlin Camp 9's are cool.

    There are probably replacement uppers and mag well spacers you can get for your M&P, too.

    If you look around the used market, you might be able to find any number of AR's chambered for 9mm. Lots of accessory options that way.
    Post edited by dudeman on
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    PJPOWER said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    For sure. It's all about safety and paying close attention to every step is absolutely key. You need to minimize distractions. No TV, friends hanging around, multi-tasking etc..

    In addition to getting a reloading manual, I have found books that compile all of the loads from the different manuals into a single caliber publication. These books are a quick reference to cross check the suitability of various powders, bullets and seating depths.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/185458/loadbooks-usa-9mm-luger-reloading-manual

    I was able to learn what I needed to know from online forums and lots of reading. Something I came across a lot is to find a recipe for a load, reduce the powder charge in the recipe by 10% and gradually work your way up to a load that functions in your gun while giving you the accuracy you need.

    The 10% rule is most definitely advised. Ever toyed with any wildcat rounds? I built a 7.62x40 (Wilson Combat) as my wild boar brush gun. Essentially has the same ballistics as a 30-30, but uses a trimmed and widened 5.56 casing. Great ballistics with the Barnes TSX 110 grains. It has actually become my preferred hunting rifle as of late. Very similar to the 300 Blackout, but designed for the faster bullets.
    Have you ever done, bought or heard of the AR-15 conversion kit to make it a single shot 50cal?

    I saw this at a gun show and was wondering if anyone actually tried and used it?

    Thanks
    I have seen that! Crazy what people are designing. I've been eyeballing the 458 SOCOM aka "hog slayer" as a new build/reloading venture. Thing is a beast!
    .458 Socom is a monster! Would you build it with a piston or go with a direct gas impingement system?
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dudeman said:

    PJPOWER said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    For sure. It's all about safety and paying close attention to every step is absolutely key. You need to minimize distractions. No TV, friends hanging around, multi-tasking etc..

    In addition to getting a reloading manual, I have found books that compile all of the loads from the different manuals into a single caliber publication. These books are a quick reference to cross check the suitability of various powders, bullets and seating depths.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/185458/loadbooks-usa-9mm-luger-reloading-manual

    I was able to learn what I needed to know from online forums and lots of reading. Something I came across a lot is to find a recipe for a load, reduce the powder charge in the recipe by 10% and gradually work your way up to a load that functions in your gun while giving you the accuracy you need.

    The 10% rule is most definitely advised. Ever toyed with any wildcat rounds? I built a 7.62x40 (Wilson Combat) as my wild boar brush gun. Essentially has the same ballistics as a 30-30, but uses a trimmed and widened 5.56 casing. Great ballistics with the Barnes TSX 110 grains. It has actually become my preferred hunting rifle as of late. Very similar to the 300 Blackout, but designed for the faster bullets.
    Have you ever done, bought or heard of the AR-15 conversion kit to make it a single shot 50cal?

    I saw this at a gun show and was wondering if anyone actually tried and used it?

    Thanks
    I have seen that! Crazy what people are designing. I've been eyeballing the 458 SOCOM aka "hog slayer" as a new build/reloading venture. Thing is a beast!
    .458 Socom is a monster! Would you build it with a piston or go with a direct gas impingement system?
    I'm definitely partial to piston system vs gas impingement, but the kits I'm eyeballing are gas. Not sure I've run across any piston kits for the .458, but they are probably out there. I want to build it "suppressor ready" for if I ever decided to go that route, so definitely an adjustable gas block... Such an expensive hobby, lol
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    Yeah, it can be, LOL.

    I'm aware of the terminal ballistics of the .458 SOCOM but not so much the internal ballistics. I would imagine that you'd want a slower burning powder to push those heavy bullets but you'd also want to make sure you got a complete burn from a 16" barrel. I could see that being a delicate balance and could possibly lead to excessive carbon fouling. Adjustable gas block would be a must I would think.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    My main focus right now is getting some quality 1/2 in AR500 steel targets, and a better deer blind, lol. Too much...stuff! On top of that, it's pheasant season! Such a fun time of year to be an outdoorsman :)
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    PJPOWER said:

    My main focus right now is getting some quality 1/2 in AR500 steel targets, and a better deer blind, lol. Too much...stuff! On top of that, it's pheasant season! Such a fun time of year to be an outdoorsman :)

    Hey pj power are wild hogs as big a problem in Texas as people say they are? Do you hunt them? If so what do you use?
    My father in laws dream is to hunt white tail in tx with some hog hunting in the side.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    My main focus right now is getting some quality 1/2 in AR500 steel targets, and a better deer blind, lol. Too much...stuff! On top of that, it's pheasant season! Such a fun time of year to be an outdoorsman :)

    Hey pj power are wild hogs as big a problem in Texas as people say they are? Do you hunt them? If so what do you use?
    My father in laws dream is to hunt white tail in tx with some hog hunting in the side.
    They are all over the place. A couple years ago a survey was done showing they are in every county except maybe one or two. I was out with my bow on the first weekend of whitetail bow season and walked up on a sow that probably weighed 200 lbs. Thank God it didn't catch wind of me and come charging!!! You have to be careful driving at night in some areas as I have seen "herds?" of 40-50 just walking down the middle of the road. They are crazy fun to hunt though and the smaller ones make some tasty sausage :)
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Stupid gun nutters are a dime a dozen in this country. Any moron with a few bucks can walk into a WalMart and buy one. Whoopie Fucking Do!!
    I can appreciate maybe collecting older guns for the historical value. Like something that pre dates 1900's like something from the Civil War.
    Don't even get me started on hunting with guns. Why? What for? It's cheaper to get a steak from the grocery store. I think hunting should be allowed with bow and arrow only. Any fuck can sit in a deer blind atop a mountain of deer bait and shot an unsuspecting animal.What's the sport in that?
    Seems like cheating too me. It would be more sport to kill the animal with your bare hands!! Lol
    And guns for protection. If this is the case, your doing it wrong. Just some thoughts. :)
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited December 2015
    CH156378 said:

    Stupid gun nutters are a dime a dozen in this country. Any moron with a few bucks can walk into a WalMart and buy one. Whoopie Fucking Do!!
    I can appreciate maybe collecting older guns for the historical value. Like something that pre dates 1900's like something from the Civil War.
    Don't even get me started on hunting with guns. Why? What for? It's cheaper to get a steak from the grocery store. I think hunting should be allowed with bow and arrow only. Any fuck can sit in a deer blind atop a mountain of deer bait and shot an unsuspecting animal.What's the sport in that?
    Seems like cheating too me. It would be more sport to kill the animal with your bare hands!! Lol
    And guns for protection. If this is the case, your doing it wrong. Just some thoughts. :)

    It seems more humane to me to shoot a deer that has been able to roam free than buy a steak from Wal Mart that came from a feed lot. It's also funny how the same people that complain about wild game hunting are the ones that complain about GMO and steroids in their meat. I do hunt with a bow a lot, but let me tell you, animals usually suffer a lot more when hit by an arrow compared to a bullet. It is not just a sport, it is a way of life...and most hunters I know value the lives of the meat they consume way more than someone that buys a prepackaged preservative laced T-Bone from WalFart. On that note, I also garden and grow my own "organic" vegetables. Do you think that should be outlawed as well? Stupid anti-gun nutters are a dime a dozen as well.
    Thanks for your opinion, though, really...now go drink a kale smoothie and keep on supporting those corporate food distributors that you (assumed) left wing eccentric "nuts" speak so highly of. Go ahead and get your last word in now (I know you will) and I'll continue discussing the big bad boogie man with my fellow gun enthusiast pals.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,160
    CH156378 said:

    Stupid gun nutters are a dime a dozen in this country. Any moron with a few bucks can walk into a WalMart and buy one. Whoopie Fucking Do!!
    I can appreciate maybe collecting older guns for the historical value. Like something that pre dates 1900's like something from the Civil War.
    Don't even get me started on hunting with guns. Why? What for? It's cheaper to get a steak from the grocery store. I think hunting should be allowed with bow and arrow only. Any fuck can sit in a deer blind atop a mountain of deer bait and shot an unsuspecting animal.What's the sport in that?
    Seems like cheating too me. It would be more sport to kill the animal with your bare hands!! Lol
    And guns for protection. If this is the case, your doing it wrong. Just some thoughts. :)

    Well, at least we made it to Page 2.

    FFS
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dudeman said:

    CH156378 said:

    Stupid gun nutters are a dime a dozen in this country. Any moron with a few bucks can walk into a WalMart and buy one. Whoopie Fucking Do!!
    I can appreciate maybe collecting older guns for the historical value. Like something that pre dates 1900's like something from the Civil War.
    Don't even get me started on hunting with guns. Why? What for? It's cheaper to get a steak from the grocery store. I think hunting should be allowed with bow and arrow only. Any fuck can sit in a deer blind atop a mountain of deer bait and shot an unsuspecting animal.What's the sport in that?
    Seems like cheating too me. It would be more sport to kill the animal with your bare hands!! Lol
    And guns for protection. If this is the case, your doing it wrong. Just some thoughts. :)

    Well, at least we made it to Page 2.

    FFS
    Right! Lol, I seriously doubted this thread would make it past page one without someone getting crazy butt hurt about the topic.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    CH156378 said:

    Stupid gun nutters are a dime a dozen in this country. Any moron with a few bucks can walk into a WalMart and buy one. Whoopie Fucking Do!!
    I can appreciate maybe collecting older guns for the historical value. Like something that pre dates 1900's like something from the Civil War.
    Don't even get me started on hunting with guns. Why? What for? It's cheaper to get a steak from the grocery store. I think hunting should be allowed with bow and arrow only. Any fuck can sit in a deer blind atop a mountain of deer bait and shot an unsuspecting animal.What's the sport in that?
    Seems like cheating too me. It would be more sport to kill the animal with your bare hands!! Lol
    And guns for protection. If this is the case, your doing it wrong. Just some thoughts. :)

    Well, at least we made it to Page 2.

    FFS
    Right! Lol, I seriously doubted this thread would make it past page one without someone getting crazy butt hurt about the topic.
    Everyone should make a pact to NOT ENGAGE THEM!!!
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    PJPOWER said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    For sure. It's all about safety and paying close attention to every step is absolutely key. You need to minimize distractions. No TV, friends hanging around, multi-tasking etc..

    In addition to getting a reloading manual, I have found books that compile all of the loads from the different manuals into a single caliber publication. These books are a quick reference to cross check the suitability of various powders, bullets and seating depths.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/185458/loadbooks-usa-9mm-luger-reloading-manual

    I was able to learn what I needed to know from online forums and lots of reading. Something I came across a lot is to find a recipe for a load, reduce the powder charge in the recipe by 10% and gradually work your way up to a load that functions in your gun while giving you the accuracy you need.

    The 10% rule is most definitely advised. Ever toyed with any wildcat rounds? I built a 7.62x40 (Wilson Combat) as my wild boar brush gun. Essentially has the same ballistics as a 30-30, but uses a trimmed and widened 5.56 casing. Great ballistics with the Barnes TSX 110 grains. It has actually become my preferred hunting rifle as of late. Very similar to the 300 Blackout, but designed for the faster bullets.
    Have you ever done, bought or heard of the AR-15 conversion kit to make it a single shot 50cal?

    I saw this at a gun show and was wondering if anyone actually tried and used it?

    Thanks
    I have seen that! Crazy what people are designing. I've been eyeballing the 458 SOCOM aka "hog slayer" as a new build/reloading venture. Thing is a beast!
    .458 Socom is a monster! Would you build it with a piston or go with a direct gas impingement system?
    I'm definitely partial to piston system vs gas impingement, but the kits I'm eyeballing are gas. Not sure I've run across any piston kits for the .458, but they are probably out there. I want to build it "suppressor ready" for if I ever decided to go that route, so definitely an adjustable gas block... Such an expensive hobby, lol
    You're delving into class 3 territory are you not?
  • Stickman12
    Stickman12 Posts: 504
    PJPOWER said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    My main focus right now is getting some quality 1/2 in AR500 steel targets, and a better deer blind, lol. Too much...stuff! On top of that, it's pheasant season! Such a fun time of year to be an outdoorsman :)

    Hey pj power are wild hogs as big a problem in Texas as people say they are? Do you hunt them? If so what do you use?
    My father in laws dream is to hunt white tail in tx with some hog hunting in the side.
    They are all over the place. A couple years ago a survey was done showing they are in every county except maybe one or two. I was out with my bow on the first weekend of whitetail bow season and walked up on a sow that probably weighed 200 lbs. Thank God it didn't catch wind of me and come charging!!! You have to be careful driving at night in some areas as I have seen "herds?" of 40-50 just walking down the middle of the road. They are crazy fun to hunt though and the smaller ones make some tasty sausage :)
    Im actually in the process of buying a DPMS G2 Recon in .308 Im going to put a Leupold vx-3 scope on it but im looking now to find a place for me and 2-3 friends to go hog hunting. Im in Indiana and have been looking at Missouri and Arkansas but most of them limit you to one hog. Does anyone know where there is no limit hog hunting???? I know they are like cochroaches the further south you go but cant find a place to hunt no limit. Also love the fact that there is a pro gun thread now.
  • Stickman12
    Stickman12 Posts: 504
    mcgruff10 said:

    Are there any good rifles out there that are chambered in 9mm?

    CZ Scorpion EVO. Check it out, it has a lot of great reviews on it.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    tempo_n_groove said:

    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    PJPOWER said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    PJPOWER said:

    dudeman said:

    For sure. It's all about safety and paying close attention to every step is absolutely key. You need to minimize distractions. No TV, friends hanging around, multi-tasking etc..

    In addition to getting a reloading manual, I have found books that compile all of the loads from the different manuals into a single caliber publication. These books are a quick reference to cross check the suitability of various powders, bullets and seating depths.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/185458/loadbooks-usa-9mm-luger-reloading-manual

    I was able to learn what I needed to know from online forums and lots of reading. Something I came across a lot is to find a recipe for a load, reduce the powder charge in the recipe by 10% and gradually work your way up to a load that functions in your gun while giving you the accuracy you need.

    The 10% rule is most definitely advised. Ever toyed with any wildcat rounds? I built a 7.62x40 (Wilson Combat) as my wild boar brush gun. Essentially has the same ballistics as a 30-30, but uses a trimmed and widened 5.56 casing. Great ballistics with the Barnes TSX 110 grains. It has actually become my preferred hunting rifle as of late. Very similar to the 300 Blackout, but designed for the faster bullets.
    Have you ever done, bought or heard of the AR-15 conversion kit to make it a single shot 50cal?

    I saw this at a gun show and was wondering if anyone actually tried and used it?

    Thanks
    I have seen that! Crazy what people are designing. I've been eyeballing the 458 SOCOM aka "hog slayer" as a new build/reloading venture. Thing is a beast!
    .458 Socom is a monster! Would you build it with a piston or go with a direct gas impingement system?
    I'm definitely partial to piston system vs gas impingement, but the kits I'm eyeballing are gas. Not sure I've run across any piston kits for the .458, but they are probably out there. I want to build it "suppressor ready" for if I ever decided to go that route, so definitely an adjustable gas block... Such an expensive hobby, lol
    You're delving into class 3 territory are you not?
    Exactly, I keep hoping they will just take suppressors out of the class 3 category. In other countries they require them due to noise ordinances, but here it is another one of those reficulous "feel better laws".
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Stickman12 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    My main focus right now is getting some quality 1/2 in AR500 steel targets, and a better deer blind, lol. Too much...stuff! On top of that, it's pheasant season! Such a fun time of year to be an outdoorsman :)

    Hey pj power are wild hogs as big a problem in Texas as people say they are? Do you hunt them? If so what do you use?
    My father in laws dream is to hunt white tail in tx with some hog hunting in the side.
    They are all over the place. A couple years ago a survey was done showing they are in every county except maybe one or two. I was out with my bow on the first weekend of whitetail bow season and walked up on a sow that probably weighed 200 lbs. Thank God it didn't catch wind of me and come charging!!! You have to be careful driving at night in some areas as I have seen "herds?" of 40-50 just walking down the middle of the road. They are crazy fun to hunt though and the smaller ones make some tasty sausage :)
    Im actually in the process of buying a DPMS G2 Recon in .308 Im going to put a Leupold vx-3 scope on it but im looking now to find a place for me and 2-3 friends to go hog hunting. Im in Indiana and have been looking at Missouri and Arkansas but most of them limit you to one hog. Does anyone know where there is no limit hog hunting???? I know they are like cochroaches the further south you go but cant find a place to hunt no limit. Also love the fact that there is a pro gun thread now.
    Stickman12 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    My main focus right now is getting some quality 1/2 in AR500 steel targets, and a better deer blind, lol. Too much...stuff! On top of that, it's pheasant season! Such a fun time of year to be an outdoorsman :)

    Hey pj power are wild hogs as big a problem in Texas as people say they are? Do you hunt them? If so what do you use?
    My father in laws dream is to hunt white tail in tx with some hog hunting in the side.
    They are all over the place. A couple years ago a survey was done showing they are in every county except maybe one or two. I was out with my bow on the first weekend of whitetail bow season and walked up on a sow that probably weighed 200 lbs. Thank God it didn't catch wind of me and come charging!!! You have to be careful driving at night in some areas as I have seen "herds?" of 40-50 just walking down the middle of the road. They are crazy fun to hunt though and the smaller ones make some tasty sausage :)
    Im actually in the process of buying a DPMS G2 Recon in .308 Im going to put a Leupold vx-3 scope on it but im looking now to find a place for me and 2-3 friends to go hog hunting. Im in Indiana and have been looking at Missouri and Arkansas but most of them limit you to one hog. Does anyone know where there is no limit hog hunting???? I know they are like cochroaches the further south you go but cant find a place to hunt no limit. Also love the fact that there is a pro gun thread now.
    Those vx-3s are nice scopes. I am also partial to the Vortex optics. Look into them if you haven't already!

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