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The Gun Thread

So, it was suggested on AMT to begin a pro-gun thread over here. Well, here it is:

If you have/want guns and you want to talk about it, this thread is for you.
If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,974
    edited December 2015
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    Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    Are we talking about shoot someone guns or workout hard and show off the guns?
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    Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    You can't have a pro gun thread in AMT?

    :lol:

    Shit, fire away
    I've met Rob

    DEGENERATE FUK

    This place is dead

    "THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015

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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,974
    Well hopefully none of us has to ever shoot someone, but yes, firearms.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,974

    You can't have a pro gun thread in AMT?

    :lol:

    Shit, fire away

    Nope.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    So we have a segregated forum. Not bad.

    I have a 9 mm. I'm not a gun guy, I have it just in case it's needed. I'll chat away with you here.
    I've met Rob

    DEGENERATE FUK

    This place is dead

    "THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015

    "Kfsbho&$thncds" - F Me In the Brain - circa 2015
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,534
    edited December 2015
    dudeman said:

    You can't have a pro gun thread in AMT?

    :lol:

    Shit, fire away

    Nope.
    Yes you can, if you want to talk about the politics of being pro-gun. The AMT is for current events, news, politics, etc. This isn't a current events topic any more than a thread about hair and beauty tips is. That's why this is a good place for what you are wanting to talk about. Guns without the politics belongs in AET. :)
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,877
    I have the following:

    A bunch of semi auto and bolt action .22 s
    12/16/20 gauge shot gone. Pump , semi auto and side by side
    .556 Orc ready m&p ar
    .50 cal muzzleloader
    Stoegar cougar 9mm

    WW2 rifles include:
    2 m1 Springfield garand. 1942 Amd 1945
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 1941
    Mauser k98 1943
    Model 1903 Springfield 1942

    Lots to go!!!

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,534

    So we have a segregated forum. Not bad.

    Not at all.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,877
    PJ_Soul said:

    So we have a segregated forum. Not bad.

    Not at all.
    Next time you are on the east coast I m bringing you to the range and we can use riot act cd s as targets!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,974
    PJ_Soul said:

    dudeman said:

    You can't have a pro gun thread in AMT?

    :lol:

    Shit, fire away

    Nope.
    Yes you can, if you want to talk about the politics of being pro-gun. The AMT is for current events, news, politics, etc. This isn't a current events topic any more than a thread about hair and beauty tips is. That's why this is a good place for what you are wanting to talk about. Guns without the politics belongs in AET. :)
    That's why it's here.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,974
    mcgruff10 said:

    I have the following:

    A bunch of semi auto and bolt action .22 s
    12/16/20 gauge shot gone. Pump , semi auto and side by side
    .556 Orc ready m&p ar
    .50 cal muzzleloader
    Stoegar cougar 9mm

    WW2 rifles include:
    2 m1 Springfield garand. 1942 Amd 1945
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 1941
    Mauser k98 1943
    Model 1903 Springfield 1942

    Lots to go!!!

    Nice collection! I'd like an M1 Garand but I know it would just be a safe queen.

    Might be looking for a new pump action 12 gauge soon.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,877
    dudeman said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I have the following:

    A bunch of semi auto and bolt action .22 s
    12/16/20 gauge shot gone. Pump , semi auto and side by side
    .556 Orc ready m&p ar
    .50 cal muzzleloader
    Stoegar cougar 9mm

    WW2 rifles include:
    2 m1 Springfield garand. 1942 Amd 1945
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 1941
    Mauser k98 1943
    Model 1903 Springfield 1942

    Lots to go!!!

    Nice collection! I'd like an M1 Garand but I know it would just be a safe queen.

    Might be looking for a new pump action 12 gauge soon.
    The garands are my favorites to shoot. No way it would be a safe queen.
    I still need a sks, ak47, and tommy gun to name a few.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,974
    edited December 2015
    I find myself shooting handguns mostly. .22, 9mm and 44 Mag.. I reload for the 9mm. That has saved me a ton of money and I can produce match-grade rounds. I have the dies for .38 Spl./.357 Mag., .44 Spl/.44 Mag., and .308 Winchester but I haven't had the time to work up loads for any of those yet.

    The .44 Mag. (S&W Model 29 w/ 8 3/8" barrel) gets a lot of range time. We have been having issues with bears locally so I'm making a point to stay proficient with it.

    Oh yeah. I have a Benelli that is hopefully getting a feeding issue taken care of at the factory. I'm looking for somewhere to shoot skeet but none of the local ranges have facilities for shotguns.
    Post edited by dudeman on
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    mca47mca47 Posts: 13,252
    I had a paintball gun. Thing was fun!
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    mcgruff10 said:

    dudeman said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I have the following:

    A bunch of semi auto and bolt action .22 s
    12/16/20 gauge shot gone. Pump , semi auto and side by side
    .556 Orc ready m&p ar
    .50 cal muzzleloader
    Stoegar cougar 9mm

    WW2 rifles include:
    2 m1 Springfield garand. 1942 Amd 1945
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 1941
    Mauser k98 1943
    Model 1903 Springfield 1942

    Lots to go!!!

    Nice collection! I'd like an M1 Garand but I know it would just be a safe queen.

    Might be looking for a new pump action 12 gauge soon.
    The garands are my favorites to shoot. No way it would be a safe queen.
    I still need a sks, ak47, and tommy gun to name a few.
    Dn't bother with the SKS and Tommy Gun. SKS you have to convert to a banana clip to have any real fun with it and the newer TG's are nothing like the original full auto's that shot 45's. Full auto versions are EXPENSIVE to shoot!!!

    Now the AK, ah the AK. You have a ton of really cool pre bans you could buy, under folder, paratrooper, side folder. All come with bayonets. Cheap to shoot, buy Russian surplus ammo.

    As for the Garand they can be had for cheap because they are mostly made from parts of other guns. If you ever find a matching rifle BUY IT and put that in a safe. It's worth thousands.
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,974
    edited December 2015
    My brother had a newer Auto-Ordnance Thompson. It was cool to behold and fun to shoot. However, fit and finish was lacking, ergonomics sucked, it was heavy and kind of impractical.

    If you're looking to have representations of the WWII guns, no collection would be complete without a Thompson.
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    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    dudeman said:

    My brother had a newer Auto -Ordinance Thompson. It was cool to behold and fun to shoot. However, fit and finish was lacking, ergonomics sucked, it was heavy and kind of impractical.

    If you're looking to have representations of the WWII guns, no collection would be complete without a Thompson.

    If you're going that route then you'll want a grease gun. Good luck finding one of those too. The stamped metal and finish was basically a throw away gun. Still really cool though.

    Dudeman did the TG have the drum or just the stick mag? I know they make a reproduction mag that holds less rounds.
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,974
    His had stick mags. Thirty rounds, IIRC. He sold that gun back to the dealer and bought a WASR AK-variant.

    I wasn't very impressed with that, either. Short LOP, rough assembly and not accurate. I know some AK's are accurate but I haven't shot one yet.

    He has a Browning BAR Longtrac in 30.06 that shoots like a laser.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    dudeman said:

    His had stick mags. Thirty rounds, IIRC. He sold that gun back to the dealer and bought a WASR AK-variant.

    I wasn't very impressed with that, either. Short LOP, rough assembly and not accurate. I know some AK's are accurate but I haven't shot one yet.

    He has a Browning BAR Longtrac in 30.06 that shoots like a laser.

    ANYTHING Browning puts out has been really good. Nice choice.

    For an AK you really need to go pre ban. Some people will argue but Norinco even made a good version of it.
    Egyptian and Russian made are top notch.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    do super soakers count?
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    Jason P said:

    do super soakers count?

    What model, lol.
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    mcgruff10 said:

    I have the following:

    A bunch of semi auto and bolt action .22 s
    12/16/20 gauge shot gone. Pump , semi auto and side by side
    .556 Orc ready m&p ar
    .50 cal muzzleloader
    Stoegar cougar 9mm

    WW2 rifles include:
    2 m1 Springfield garand. 1942 Amd 1945
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 1941
    Mauser k98 1943
    Model 1903 Springfield 1942

    Lots to go!!!

    McGruff have you ever seen or fired a Galil or an AUG?

    Both are beautiful 5.56 rifles.

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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,877

    mcgruff10 said:

    I have the following:

    A bunch of semi auto and bolt action .22 s
    12/16/20 gauge shot gone. Pump , semi auto and side by side
    .556 Orc ready m&p ar
    .50 cal muzzleloader
    Stoegar cougar 9mm

    WW2 rifles include:
    2 m1 Springfield garand. 1942 Amd 1945
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 1941
    Mauser k98 1943
    Model 1903 Springfield 1942

    Lots to go!!!

    McGruff have you ever seen or fired a Galil or an AUG?

    Both are beautiful 5.56 rifles.

    No I never even heard of it. I m sure they are banned in communist New Jersey.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited December 2015
    Great thread! Any of you guys do any long distance competition shooting or into reloading your own ammo? If you are looking to get an AR these days, I suggest building your own. There are so many options (calibers, barrel length, twist rates, BCGs, etc) to choose from to "personalize" it. I grew up shooting competitively for 4H and have hunted since roughly the age of 10. Father was a hunter's Ed teacher and firearm instructor. Always like hearing about others experiences. I'm not one to list out all of my firearms to others, but if if anyone needs help with a build, I can point you in the right direction :)
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,974
    I reload but I haven't gotten into long range shooting yet. The longest range I have any where near me is 200 yards. That's the distance I zero my 308's at and both of them are 1/2 MOA rifles. Not much of a challenge shooting nickel-sized groups with them.

    Consequently, I don't take the rifles out very often. Couple times a year, maybe.

    I'm working on a Remington 700 build and I just got the action and bolt back from getting blue printed and trued.

    Once it's done, I plan to either find a good range with some distance or I'll buy some property in the sticks and build my own.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,877
    Dudeman are you close to nj? I need someone to teach me how to reload! 30.06 is freaking expensive!!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 2,974
    I'm in sunny Florida.

    Reloading can really pay for itself pretty quickly if you shoot a lot. It's pretty rewarding, too. My target loads for 9mm cost 12.8 cents per round and are more consistent and accurate than the dollar per round premium ammo available down here.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:

    Dudeman are you close to nj? I need someone to teach me how to reload! 30.06 is freaking expensive!!!!

    If I may chime in, a good first step is to get a new version of a reloading manual (I prefer Hornady or RCBS) and read it front to back. It is a rewarding process and you can get much better and more accuracy from your own loads, but close attention needs to be payed to the steps and things to look for to judge the integrity of used brass. Definitely good to get with someone who has done it before or even take a local class if offered.

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