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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    How many units in how many settlements have been built since Oslo was agreed to?

    BS , I was hoping you would reply. My question to you after your statement that Abbas abandoned the Oslo Accords.

    Care to answer honestly without sarcasm or a troll response? Seriously.
    Honestly and without sarcasm I don't know. I also think it is no longer relevant. You still live in a mythical land where it is just a matter of settlements and rights. That ship sailed many years ago. Israel is dealing with people who do not want it to exist. Period. Gaza was abandoned in total and look what it became. I know, i know...it's Israel's fault. Israel is for the most part alone. It knows it is alone. It will act alone. And it will survive.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,096
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Chris Cornell just announced 2 shows in Israel.

    Higher Truth indeed.

    sellout.
    why is he a sellout? can an artist not choose to take the non-political route and just play a show for people who don't get many?

    and maybe it's not even that.

    nope.

    it is not about who gets shows or how many shows the people there get to see.

    you can't play israel and not make a political statement.

    by playing there, and taking their money, you support the status quo.
    Well I guess you should stop paying to see Cornell lest you be accused of making a political statement. You should probably also steer clear of any PJ show where he might appear. I'm sure he also gets a cut of that Sonic Evolution album so you probably shouldn't buy that either. Fuck this BDS shit gets complicated...
    well considering the only thing i have purposely spent money on related to cornell was a used temple of the dog cassette, i do not think it will be too difficult. i find him overrated.

    refresh my memory....how awesome was that pearl jam tour of israel again?????
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,424
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    How many units in how many settlements have been built since Oslo was agreed to?

    BS , I was hoping you would reply. My question to you after your statement that Abbas abandoned the Oslo Accords.

    Care to answer honestly without sarcasm or a troll response? Seriously.
    Honestly and without sarcasm I don't know. I also think it is no longer relevant. You still live in a mythical land where it is just a matter of settlements and rights. That ship sailed many years ago. Israel is dealing with people who do not want it to exist. Period. Gaza was abandoned in total and look what it became. I know, i know...it's Israel's fault. Israel is for the most part alone. It knows it is alone. It will act alone. And it will survive.
    Alone with up to 4.5 bb a year in aid. Got it
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,424
    edited October 2015
    So at what point does an Israeli official take it upon themselves to rectify this by designating officially where these Israeli citizens can build?

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/israel-razes-palestinian-village-negev-90th-time-151028121644298.html
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  • JohnnieBeBlue
    JohnnieBeBlue Posts: 630
    edited October 2015
    At what point do any of you form a substantive thought and actually respond to my post from yesterday rather than continuing to cut and paste Arab propaganda?
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    How many units in how many settlements have been built since Oslo was agreed to?

    BS , I was hoping you would reply. My question to you after your statement that Abbas abandoned the Oslo Accords.

    Care to answer honestly without sarcasm or a troll response? Seriously.
    Honestly and without sarcasm I don't know. I also think it is no longer relevant. You still live in a mythical land where it is just a matter of settlements and rights. That ship sailed many years ago. Israel is dealing with people who do not want it to exist. Period. Gaza was abandoned in total and look what it became. I know, i know...it's Israel's fault. Israel is for the most part alone. It knows it is alone. It will act alone. And it will survive.
    Alone with up to 4.5 bb a year in aid. Got it
    And massive investment from India.

    http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-indian-holding-company-reliance-no-limit-to-our-investment-in-israel-1001076749

    Countries that want to be successful know who to do business with.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,424
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    How many units in how many settlements have been built since Oslo was agreed to?

    BS , I was hoping you would reply. My question to you after your statement that Abbas abandoned the Oslo Accords.

    Care to answer honestly without sarcasm or a troll response? Seriously.
    Honestly and without sarcasm I don't know. I also think it is no longer relevant. You still live in a mythical land where it is just a matter of settlements and rights. That ship sailed many years ago. Israel is dealing with people who do not want it to exist. Period. Gaza was abandoned in total and look what it became. I know, i know...it's Israel's fault. Israel is for the most part alone. It knows it is alone. It will act alone. And it will survive.
    Alone with up to 4.5 bb a year in aid. Got it
    And massive investment from India.

    http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-indian-holding-company-reliance-no-limit-to-our-investment-in-israel-1001076749

    Countries that want to be successful know who to do business with.
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    How many units in how many settlements have been built since Oslo was agreed to?

    BS , I was hoping you would reply. My question to you after your statement that Abbas abandoned the Oslo Accords.

    Care to answer honestly without sarcasm or a troll response? Seriously.
    Honestly and without sarcasm I don't know. I also think it is no longer relevant. You still live in a mythical land where it is just a matter of settlements and rights. That ship sailed many years ago. Israel is dealing with people who do not want it to exist. Period. Gaza was abandoned in total and look what it became. I know, i know...it's Israel's fault. Israel is for the most part alone. It knows it is alone. It will act alone. And it will survive.
    Alone with up to 4.5 bb a year in aid. Got it
    And massive investment from India.

    http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-indian-holding-company-reliance-no-limit-to-our-investment-in-israel-1001076749

    Countries that want to be successful know who to do business with.
    Awesome, now we can cut them off the american teet.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
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  • At what point do any of you form a substantive thought and actually respond to my post from yesterday rather than continuing to cut and paste Arab propaganda?

    Got a source for your cut and paste or are you claiming the work as your own? I'd like to know before I set off on a "fact finding" inquiry or would you like to admit it's Israeli apologist propaganda? What happened in 1948 when the Zionist terrorized the British and got them to leave? What did the Zionists do to the Palestinians on the land and in the houses that the Zionists wanted? What happened? Were they justly compensated or did they have their throats slit and their olive groves bulldozed? I think you know Johnny, I think you know but I don't think you'll admit to it. Also, why was the USS Liberty attacked and what was occurring that prompted the attack? Again, I think you know but your heartless soul will never admit to it, will it Johnny?
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  • At what point do any of you form a substantive thought and actually respond to my post from yesterday rather than continuing to cut and paste Arab propaganda?

    Got a source for your cut and paste or are you claiming the work as your own? I'd like to know before I set off on a "fact finding" inquiry or would you like to admit it's Israeli apologist propaganda? What happened in 1948 when the Zionist terrorized the British and got them to leave? What did the Zionists do to the Palestinians on the land and in the houses that the Zionists wanted? What happened? Were they justly compensated or did they have their throats slit and their olive groves bulldozed? I think you know Johnny, I think you know but I don't think you'll admit to it. Also, why was the USS Liberty attacked and what was occurring that prompted the attack? Again, I think you know but your heartless soul will never admit to it, will it Johnny?
    The source is my head buddy. I'm sure you've already tried fact finding. As to the rest of your allegations, I will answer them all over the weekend.
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Chris Cornell just announced 2 shows in Israel.

    Higher Truth indeed.

    sellout.
    why is he a sellout? can an artist not choose to take the non-political route and just play a show for people who don't get many?

    and maybe it's not even that.

    nope.

    it is not about who gets shows or how many shows the people there get to see.

    you can't play israel and not make a political statement.

    by playing there, and taking their money, you support the status quo.
    Well I guess you should stop paying to see Cornell lest you be accused of making a political statement. You should probably also steer clear of any PJ show where he might appear. I'm sure he also gets a cut of that Sonic Evolution album so you probably shouldn't buy that either. Fuck this BDS shit gets complicated...
    well considering the only thing i have purposely spent money on related to cornell was a used temple of the dog cassette, i do not think it will be too difficult. i find him overrated.

    refresh my memory....how awesome was that pearl jam tour of israel again?????
    PJ has never toured several regions on this planet. that means nothing. and EV himself is buddies with Obama, an Israel supporter.

    I disagree completely that you can't separate entertainment from government policy.

    audioslave played Cuba. does that make them communists?

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,096

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Chris Cornell just announced 2 shows in Israel.

    Higher Truth indeed.

    sellout.
    why is he a sellout? can an artist not choose to take the non-political route and just play a show for people who don't get many?

    and maybe it's not even that.

    nope.

    it is not about who gets shows or how many shows the people there get to see.

    you can't play israel and not make a political statement.

    by playing there, and taking their money, you support the status quo.
    Well I guess you should stop paying to see Cornell lest you be accused of making a political statement. You should probably also steer clear of any PJ show where he might appear. I'm sure he also gets a cut of that Sonic Evolution album so you probably shouldn't buy that either. Fuck this BDS shit gets complicated...
    well considering the only thing i have purposely spent money on related to cornell was a used temple of the dog cassette, i do not think it will be too difficult. i find him overrated.

    refresh my memory....how awesome was that pearl jam tour of israel again?????
    PJ has never toured several regions on this planet. that means nothing. and EV himself is buddies with Obama, an Israel supporter.

    I disagree completely that you can't separate entertainment from government policy.

    audioslave played Cuba. does that make them communists?

    no, but morello is a communist, so there ya go.
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  • Does from 3:24 on mean anything to posters in this thread?
    Give a listen.
    It's just over 2mins
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2LehsA1dk
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    im in no mood for debate bc im tired but the truth is your either athiest or believe in God,
    bluntly put... God loves and is the personification of love but he too is also a jealous God (true) and requires exclusive devotion and obedience because he created everything,and if you do not comply he gives you time to comply and even reaches out to you in ways if your heart is receptive to do so with love being the inclination and he has given time to reach out because he wants worship hes God he want you to kneel in return he gives love and teaching to benefit you and your family and well as everything he has created for our benefit not his so to the thankful and loving he spares to those who wish to take him for granted or ignore his very existance and not obey or worship him he counts as unworthy and wicked and ungrateful so those get destroyed at armegeddon.. Its fair its his world for us to enjoy in his terms and its based on love and obedience to him and everybody else so he can destroy whom he wishes if they are not grateful or obedient to his graciousness.. that being blunt like it or lump it
    me i know he has offered alot for our own pleasure not his so i see it fair and just
    and thats coming from someone who has only known suffering but i know happiness joy love contentment exist because of him and i dream of it so if i can why not those who have taken it for granted and kill other and break his laws....
  • JWPearl said:

    im in no mood for debate bc im tired but the truth is your either athiest or believe in God,
    bluntly put

    You forgot the without religion person.
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    there is only one true religion and thats the religion that strictly follows Gods word the bible the hebrew and greek scriptures and doesnt deviate to its own teachings which all religion has done which is why there is a mess but that was the work of the devil bc he did not want the truth to shine through but it is there if you look for it but not without distractions in the way....you see the devil challenged God in the beginning by lying to eve before all other angels so he challenged God right to rule so God is proving to all the other angels that man nor angels can rule the world but you dont prove that by destroying the devil on the spot it teaches nor proves the question the others may ponder about needless to say he is ruling the world and wants to mislead as many as he can to go down with him bc he knows he will be abyssed and hes full of hate and is taking as many against God with him either as blind people or willingly so we try to open eyes...
  • JWPearl said:

    there is only one true religion and thats the religion that strictly follows Gods word the bible the hebrew

    Well the bible should've stuck with the king james version.
    Now it is in modern language and everyone can plainly read and understand the bullshit scribed by poor merchant arabs.
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    which is perfect...
    and we knock on doors to help you study it and get the big picture
    and save your hiny if not lift the veil so you can pass it on
    the bible is perfect and each scripture backs one another up for understanding
    its the false religions that twist it and put their own teachings did you know according to bible
    a priest can marry and look what religion has made of it saying they must obstain from it no wonder theirs pedophelia its wrong and corrupt its what revelation calls the great harlot(false religion) sitting on many waters (nations) and riches have you looked in some of those churches
    and have you ever really learnt anything proper from mass ? bollocks they sometimes dont even teach the bible but their own things as the book of revelations says its mislead people by means of its spiritual practices you know rosemary your supposed to repeat a chant to whomever they chose saint or Jesus or Mary when the bible clearly says you must not pray and repeat the same things over and over again and that you should pray only to God through Jesus bc he reconciled us to God by dying for our sins to be forgiven bc of adam and eve passed sin on to us anyway i must sleep...
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,424
    not exactly sure what that really has to do with the creation of Israel, the occupation BY Israel of lands not within its established recohgnized borders, the allowance of homes to be razed, olive groes bulldozed or otherwise destroyed, the extrajudiicial executions. the disproportionate retaliation against innocents for the actions of grouup seeking to resist this occupation with any means at their disposal. the lack of any real justice in the defense of these innocents when victims of crimes against them by Israeli citizens living outside of their recognized borders in settlements built by the occupying power in violation of internaional law.


    Kindlly begin your own thread on the topic you wish.
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  • JWPearl said:

    which is perfect...
    and we knock on doors to help you study it and get the big picture
    and save your hiny if not lift the veil so you can pass it on
    the bible is perfect and each scripture backs one another up for understanding
    its the false religions that twist it and put their own teachings did you know according to bible
    a priest can marry and look what religion has made of it saying they must obstain from it no wonder theirs pedophelia its wrong and corrupt its what revelation calls the great harlot(false religion) sitting on many waters (nations) and riches have you looked in some of those churches
    and have you ever really learnt anything proper from mass ? bollocks they sometimes dont even teach the bible but their own things as the book of revelations says its mislead people by means of its spiritual practices you know rosemary your supposed to repeat a chant to whomever they chose saint or Jesus or Mary when the bible clearly says you must not pray and repeat the same things over and over again and that you should pray only to God through Jesus bc he reconciled us to God by dying for our sins to be forgiven bc of adam and eve passed sin on to us anyway i must sleep...

    Oooooh.

    You guys knock on doors to save our hineys. I thought for sure you knocked on our doors to annoy the hell out of us.
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