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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Chris Cornell just announced 2 shows in Israel.

    Higher Truth indeed.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,779
    BS44325 said:

    Chris Cornell just announced 2 shows in Israel.

    Higher Truth indeed.

    Wheres the link?
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    Chris Cornell just announced 2 shows in Israel.

    Higher Truth indeed.

    Wheres the link?
    Came via Cornell fanclub email. European tour ending with two Israeli dates May 6 and 7.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,779
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    Chris Cornell just announced 2 shows in Israel.

    Higher Truth indeed.

    Wheres the link?
    Came via Cornell fanclub email. European tour ending with two Israeli dates May 6 and 7.
    saw in my email.


    in other news, looks like an agreement between Israel and Jordan for more cameras at the dome. Not a bad thing I guess. But it does raise a question that was not addressed in the article I saw, who is doing the monitoring?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,408
    BS44325 said:

    Chris Cornell just announced 2 shows in Israel.

    Higher Truth indeed.

    sellout.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Chris Cornell just announced 2 shows in Israel.

    Higher Truth indeed.

    sellout.
    why is he a sellout? can an artist not choose to take the non-political route and just play a show for people who don't get many?

    and maybe it's not even that.

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,779
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Chris Cornell just announced 2 shows in Israel.

    Higher Truth indeed.

    sellout.
    why is he a sellout? can an artist not choose to take the non-political route and just play a show for people who don't get many?

    and maybe it's not even that.

    Had a thought he donates all procedes and merch sales to help rebuild gaza.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Chris should be applauded for playing there. It's about bringing music to his fans and nothing more. He is also playing in Moscow...that doesn't mean he supports Putin. What I am curious about is whether people and this band will have his back when he receives a strongly worded letter from Waters.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    BS44325 said:

    Chris should be applauded for playing there. It's about bringing music to his fans and nothing more. He is also playing in Moscow...that doesn't mean he supports Putin. What I am curious about is whether people and this band will have his back when he receives a strongly worded letter from Waters.

    and if we were to apply the politics of the area to places bands/artists shouldn't play, then it could be argued that pearl jam, by extension, shouldn't have played anywhere in the US between 2001-2009.

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    JohnnieBeBlue said:

    Drowned Out said:



    Thing is, I'm 100% sure you know the university was bombed. If there was a way to track down the locations of the other images you've shared here, I'm sure we would find many of them in a similar state following last summer. You consistently show that you are not above completely misleading the readers here to push your agenda. I really wish I had time to go thru all the bullshit you've been spewing here over the last few weeks, but I don't. Your examples of recent Israeli victims, with no mention of the typical, disproportionate number of Palestinian victims is especially telling ...always the same ol' shit.

    Right, the good old "proportional force and numbers argument." As if the Israelis should apologize for protecting themselves. Guess what? If you come at me with a knife, you know damn sure I won't hesitate to use my gun against you rather than reaching for my own knife. Good thing the Allies didn't use proportional force in World War II or we'd all be speaking German.
    No one should apologize for protecting themselves. I have no problem with guns being used on a knife-wielding attacker. I do have a problem with bombs that destroy an entire apartment complex to kill a knife wielding attacker. That goes for every military or terrorist (often the same shit) in the world, no matter the target.

    'we'd all be speaking German' ....love that line. Standard fallback scare tactic for hawks. Use 'the just war' to justify a very different situation. Thing is, the allies use of disproportionate force was at times as sickening as any other war crime...
    in fact, using the word 'disproportionate' is a telling understatement...the word you're looking for is 'excessive'.
    Pretty easy to dismiss 'the numbers' when you've got the upper hand. I wonder if you'd use this approach to the conversation if the death tolls were reversed?
    Dismissing 'the numbers' (read: lives) Is the only way you can continue to use your self defence talking point, because any analysis of 'the numbers', shows the self defence talking point to be completely false, and meant to justify whatever needs to be justified at that point in time. Crying 'self defense' is standard procedure for any murderer who doesn't want to face the consequences of his actions.
    JohnnieBeBlue said:

    And as for the bombed out buildings...Do you know what Israel does after a suicide bomber hits? They IMMEDIATELY rebuild and open for business in the same location. Meanwhile, the Palestinians receive millions of dollars worth of concrete and steel and build....terror tunnels. No wonder nothing has been rebuilt.

    Terror tunnels? Do you have a talking points textbook sitting next to your pc?
    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/propaganda-terror-tunnels
    http://fair.org/blog/2014/07/29/media-hype-and-gazas-terror-tunnels/
    You make it sound as if rebuilding Gaza would be done if not for the Palestinian's bloodlust....which everyone knows is utter bullshit. The blockade has made it virtually impossible to rebuild anything since Hamas was elected. The Telegraph reported last year that it will take a century to rebuild Gaza at the rates Israel has allowed construction materials in - they have allowed less than 15% of what is required and most of that is going to 'international' projects. But I guess your narrative is what makes that ok to the ill-informed, right? Another false justification straight from Bibi's playbook.
    And this is where this situation in Gaza is headed:
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/gaza-uninhabitable-2020-israel-palestine-150902065427364.html
    JohnnieBeBlue said:

    And Zionism as collaborators with Nazis is such a twisted and backassed view of history I don't even know what to say. Where the hell do you guys find this stuff? Kind of like the post last week that argued Israel was trying to change the status quo of the Temple Mount. No, Israel has done no such thing. That's just a typical incitement tactic that the Palestinian leadership has used to promote hate and excuse terrorist attacks on Israeli civilians. Meanwhile, the stabbings continue.

    Where do I find this stuff? The article is footnoted for all to see....the sources are leaders of zionist organizations, and Israeli politicians. But nice strawman: switching topics without actually even attempting to refute anything you just disregarded as twisted and backassed. It's obvious that you didnt' because you can't. The logical fallacies come so easily to Israel's supporters.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    BS44325 said:

    Chris should be applauded for playing there. It's about bringing music to his fans and nothing more. He is also playing in Moscow...that doesn't mean he supports Putin. What I am curious about is whether people and this band will have his back when he receives a strongly worded letter from Waters.

    and if we were to apply the politics of the area to places bands/artists shouldn't play, then it could be argued that pearl jam, by extension, shouldn't have played anywhere in the US between 2001-2009.

    This has all been covered previously (this will be Cornell's third or fourth trip to Israel)....but it's a pretty different situation to attempt to boycott the country in which you reside, compared to taking a large dollar sum to travel great distances to play in a country where the oppressed have officially requested a boycott, and appearing in tourism literature.
    It isn't possible to take the non-political route in playing Israel - every artist that plays there is used as an 'in your face, Palestine...BDS is failing' by Israelis trying to convince other artists to play there....'Israel is a lovely place....here is a list of artists who agree:....'
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,779
    Uh right.

    More helpful rhetoric.

    http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/10/26/netanyahu-mulls-revoking-rights-for-some-palestinians-in-east-jerusalem.html?utm_content=nobylines&utm_campaign=ajam&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow
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  • BS44325
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    edited October 2015
    Drowned Out said:



    You make it sound as if rebuilding Gaza would be done if not for the Palestinian's bloodlust....which everyone knows is utter bullshit.

    Everyone except for this lady...

    https://youtu.be/TpwFTzRrOsU

    #highertruth
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
    BS44325 said:

    Drowned Out said:



    You make it sound as if rebuilding Gaza would be done if not for the Palestinian's bloodlust....which everyone knows is utter bullshit.

    Everyone except for this lady...

    https://youtu.be/TpwFTzRrOsU

    #highertruth
    .
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,779
    Punk ass shit using that.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
    mickeyrat said:

    Punk ass shit using that.

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,779
    Sorry you didnt get that troll move in are ya?
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    mickeyrat said:

    Sorry you didnt get that troll move in are ya?

    There is none of that going on.
    That video seems like Americas funniest home videos.
    Shit like that can't possibly be real.
    Fucking stupid people.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,779
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Sorry you didnt get that troll move in are ya?

    There is none of that going on.
    That video seems like Americas funniest home videos.
    Shit like that can't possibly be real.
    Fucking stupid people.
    Give a fuck about that video. Late chimer. He knows what I refered to.
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