What the hell happen in Virginia??

josevolution · August 2015

Leezestarr313 said:
It's an explosive mixture of many things. A culture that is based on the principles of capitalism, a harsh world where everybody needs to fight on their own. Greed, entitlement, extreme wealth, extreme poverty, overflow and dire need go hand in hand. People get their "education" from the internet or bullshit media. Bullying and aggression are ruling in the social platforms, people think they live in a movie. That coupled with a culture that has always been oddly fascinated with guns and a more than shameful social support system might make a person who has issues and feel like they deserve better and don't get heard go and destroy the lives of others.
I'm not American, but I'm fucking sick of the gun defending arguments. Something needs to be done.

Aren't you glad you moved here j/k , i totally agree with your assessment this is a cultural problem .....

josevolution · August 2015

mcgruff10 said:
my suggestions from another thread on how to curtail gun violence and keeping them out of the wrong hands:
every weapon bought has to be registered with the state and federal government. Before owning a gun you must take a firearm safety course. Before owning a gun you must pass a background check. Before owning a gun you must pass a mental health background check. Before owning your first gun your employer should be contacted to make sure there are no problems. Penalties for straw purchases and selling guns illegally should be enforced and more severe. Educate children (what age I don't know) on what a firearm is, what it can do, what to do if you find one in you house. Educate on safely storing firearms: pass a law that provides a gun lock with every firearm purchase. Here in nj we have a maximum of 15 rounds for a detachable clip but I don't see why a federal policy of max of 30 rounds isn't reasonable. Don't ban any guns, just make sure people are fit to use them responsibly.
to me people don't want background checks because they have something to hide. just my .02.

I like it i like it alot ....

Last-12-Exit · August 2015

Yes, guns should be banned. Any gun designed for military use should be banned for civilian use.

Last-12-Exit · August 2015

Last-12-Exit said:
Yes, guns should be banned. Any gun designed for military use should be banned for civilian use.

And guns that have the capability of firing more than x amount of rounds in a minute.

JUST A GIRL · August 2015

Gern Blansten said:

JUST A GIRL said:

Godfather. said:
I heard he died, cool.

Godfather.
Smh. Shame. I thought we were on the same page with violence.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Zero guns have decided to fire themselves and kill anyone.

Right now the people in the ghettos who have guns, didn't obtain them legally. If we remove all rights to buy guns, then we have zero chance to defend ourselves against the criminals who obtain them illegally.

Anything else is spin and thinking too much into.

If we all had a pistol on our hip the world would be so much better. I wouldn't get raped if someone knew I had a pistol on my hip. People wouldn't steal if they thought the consequence would be death.

Just my .02. Doubt many will agree here but I refuse to compromise my beliefs.
right...guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people

No.. People kill people.

ldent42 · August 2015

I mean you can't talk about gun laws without talking about hunting. they go together.

Last-12-Exit · August 2015

ldent42 said:
I mean you can't talk about gun laws without talking about hunting. they go together.

Sort of. If you're talking about the urge to kill. But I don't put shotguns and hand guns in the same category.

PJ_Soul · August 2015

ldent42 said:
I mean you can't talk about gun laws without talking about hunting. they go together.

Well no, not technically. But I don't personally know anyone who groups hunting and gun violence. I never met anyone who wanted to outlaw hunting under the existing guidelines (besides perhaps the side issues of hunting tourism and endangered animals).

Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh · August 2015

mcgruff10 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh said:
What's the obsession with owning a weapon? To me anyone who thinks that they must own a weapon already has a mental illness.
I m 37 and started hunting with my dad and grandfather when I was ten. I ll continue the tradition with my own kids. I guess we all have mental illnesses you dumb ass.
So you have no reason to be opposed to regulations which make it harder for lunatics to get guns?

We sure as hell aren't getting rids of guns so baby steps with regulations.
please read my many posts on this topic. i've said many times that background checks are key; the more the better. hell i live in new jersey (second toughest gun laws in the country) and I have no problem in what I have to do in order to get a gun. i was just chiming in because of that moron who said anybody who wants a gun has a mental illness. i think that's the first time i've ever called someone a dumb ass on this board (and now a moron).
pjsoul is right, the meat is the bonus. spending time with my dad and father in law in that setting is priceless.

I think the desire to have a weapon for fun is a weird thing. I think to go out and enjoy killing something that is unaware in it's natural habitat is a weird thing.

ldent42 · August 2015

Just to take it back before to what we were talking about with regard to media coverage, have you guys seen this? What the actual fuck. The Daily News is seriously gunning for the Post's spot as 'worst newspaper ever'

**WARNING GRAPHIC PHOTO IN THE LINK BELOW**
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-york-daily-news-cover-shocks-with-graphic-cover-of-murdered-journalists_55de8078e4b029b3f1b19cd2?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

I was gonna embed the photo but I'm not comfortable posting it.

hedonist · August 2015

I wonder why Huffington would show the images, vs. only the story itself of the Daily News doing it.

ldent42 · August 2015

hedonist said:
I wonder why Huffington would show the images, vs. only the story itself of the Daily News doing it.

I assume because they don't want to hand the daily news the pageviews from their curious readers. I get what you're saying though. Its a bit pot meet kettle.

rgambs · August 2015

JUST A GIRL said:

Gern Blansten said:

JUST A GIRL said:

Godfather. said:
I heard he died, cool.

Godfather.
Smh. Shame. I thought we were on the same page with violence.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Zero guns have decided to fire themselves and kill anyone.

Right now the people in the ghettos who have guns, didn't obtain them legally. If we remove all rights to buy guns, then we have zero chance to defend ourselves against the criminals who obtain them illegally.

Anything else is spin and thinking too much into.

If we all had a pistol on our hip the world would be so much better. I wouldn't get raped if someone knew I had a pistol on my hip. People wouldn't steal if they thought the consequence would be death.

Just my .02. Doubt many will agree here but I refuse to compromise my beliefs.
right...guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people
No.. People kill people.

So you must think that rocket launchers, bombs, poison gas and anthrax should be legal as well, right?
Your argument is that the weapon is not part of the discussion, only the person with intent to kill.

PJ_Soul · August 2015

hedonist said:
I wonder why Huffington would show the images, vs. only the story itself of the Daily News doing it.

Most news outlets have posted photos and/or the original new video online. The issue here is apparently that it's plastered on the front page of a paper that is impossible to avoid at newsstands, as opposed to having to seek it out on the internet and sometimes reading a warning about it being disturbing (or that's what I have to assume, since yeah, all the news outlets have posted the original video and displayed the front page from the Daily News).

Leezestarr313 · August 2015

josevolution said:

Leezestarr313 said:
It's an explosive mixture of many things. A culture that is based on the principles of capitalism, a harsh world where everybody needs to fight on their own. Greed, entitlement, extreme wealth, extreme poverty, overflow and dire need go hand in hand. People get their "education" from the internet or bullshit media. Bullying and aggression are ruling in the social platforms, people think they live in a movie. That coupled with a culture that has always been oddly fascinated with guns and a more than shameful social support system might make a person who has issues and feel like they deserve better and don't get heard go and destroy the lives of others.
I'm not American, but I'm fucking sick of the gun defending arguments. Something needs to be done.
Aren't you glad you moved here j/k , i totally agree with your assessment this is a cultural problem .....

I am not regretting my decision. But I definitely grew up in a different culture. That is not to say that what I read about what is going in my homecountry at the moment is anything to be proud of.

As for the whole hunting thing. It always seems to me that whenever you say that you don't understand hunting because you don't want to kill a living being or whatever, people come with the tradition thing and get all defensive. I would never want to hunt, and I don't get the pride people seem to get from killing a majestic animal and posing with its dead body, but hunting to me is separate from the gun issue. We have hunters and shooting clubs in Germany too. There's just not that many people into it. I don't know if it is expensive. Maybe people really do not think about guns as much.

blueandwhite · August 2015

JUST A GIRL said:

Gern Blansten said:

JUST A GIRL said:

Godfather. said:
I heard he died, cool.

Godfather.
Smh. Shame. I thought we were on the same page with violence.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Zero guns have decided to fire themselves and kill anyone.

Right now the people in the ghettos who have guns, didn't obtain them legally. If we remove all rights to buy guns, then we have zero chance to defend ourselves against the criminals who obtain them illegally.

Anything else is spin and thinking too much into.

If we all had a pistol on our hip the world would be so much better. I wouldn't get raped if someone knew I had a pistol on my hip. People wouldn't steal if they thought the consequence would be death.

Just my .02. Doubt many will agree here but I refuse to compromise my beliefs.
right...guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people
No.. People kill people.

In all fairness, guns make the job a whole lot easier.

Smellyman · August 2015

guns are made to kill people. That is what they are intended for. It is very strange they are legal at all.

hedonist · August 2015

So this guy passed the background checks and legally purchased the gun, correct? This is what I read earlier, anyway (honestly, my threshold for this shit isn't as high as it used to be; just need the occasional break, I guess).

Anyway, earlier I caught a news segment about CPS and the like investigating children's well-being out here, and it got me thinking how so many of them are dismissed, mis-read, or just overlooked in the care they need and deserve - whether the lack of oversight is due to apathy or lack of personnel, resources, I don't know - but if THAT can't be done at some basic productive level (sad I can't even say "be done well"), how can the government screening an adult with at the least an alarm or two in their background making a purchase like this do any better?

Ha! I've never made a run-on quite like that up there.

JUST A GIRL · August 2015

mcgruff10 said:
my suggestions from another thread on how to curtail gun violence and keeping them out of the wrong hands:
every weapon bought has to be registered with the state and federal government. Before owning a gun you must take a firearm safety course. Before owning a gun you must pass a background check. Before owning a gun you must pass a mental health background check. Before owning your first gun your employer should be contacted to make sure there are no problems. Penalties for straw purchases and selling guns illegally should be enforced and more severe. Educate children (what age I don't know) on what a firearm is, what it can do, what to do if you find one in you house. Educate on safely storing firearms: pass a law that provides a gun lock with every firearm purchase. Here in nj we have a maximum of 15 rounds for a detachable clip but I don't see why a federal policy of max of 30 rounds isn't reasonable. Don't ban any guns, just make sure people are fit to use them responsibly.
to me people don't want background checks because they have something to hide. just my .02.

Or... We could just get rid of guns, right?

I have enjoyed hunting many times and agree that gun owning can be done respectfully.

Again, guns don't kill people, people do. What about all the murders using knives? Cars? Should we ban those also?

Oh and be sure and cut off hands because those can kill too.

JUST A GIRL · August 2015

Double post

What the hell happen in Virginia??

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