What the hell happen in Virginia??

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I heard he died, cool.

    Godfather.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,110
    rgambs said:

    Rush Limbaugh just spent 20 minutes blaming this on affirmative action practices!
    Seriously.
    "This is what happens..."
    "They are victims of liberalism."
    Wow. Fox News will probably be saying it by tomorrow afternoon.
    :anguished:

    I saw something about this on foxnews this morning

    They blamed Obama
  • I heard he died, cool.

    Godfather.

    Smh. Shame. I thought we were on the same page with violence.

    Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Zero guns have decided to fire themselves and kill anyone.

    Right now the people in the ghettos who have guns, didn't obtain them legally. If we remove all rights to buy guns, then we have zero chance to defend ourselves against the criminals who obtain them illegally.

    Anything else is spin and thinking too much into.

    If we all had a pistol on our hip the world would be so much better. I wouldn't get raped if someone knew I had a pistol on my hip. People wouldn't steal if they thought the consequence would be death.

    Just my .02. Doubt many will agree here but I refuse to compromise my beliefs.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,525

    Smh. Shame. I thought we were on the same page with violence.

    Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Zero guns have decided to fire themselves and kill anyone.

    Right now the people in the ghettos who have guns, didn't obtain them legally. If we remove all rights to buy guns, then we have zero chance to defend ourselves against the criminals who obtain them illegally.

    Anything else is spin and thinking too much into.

    If we all had a pistol on our hip the world would be so much better. I wouldn't get raped if someone knew I had a pistol on my hip. People wouldn't steal if they thought the consequence would be death.

    Just my .02. Doubt many will agree here but I refuse to compromise my beliefs.
    right...guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,525

    so now you partialy blame me ? ...
    you're just a bit on the mellow drama side arnt you....

    Godfather.

    "mellow drama"

    I wish I was near a building that I could jump off of.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    Smh. Shame. I thought we were on the same page with violence.

    Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Zero guns have decided to fire themselves and kill anyone.

    Right now the people in the ghettos who have guns, didn't obtain them legally. If we remove all rights to buy guns, then we have zero chance to defend ourselves against the criminals who obtain them illegally.

    Anything else is spin and thinking too much into.

    If we all had a pistol on our hip the world would be so much better. I wouldn't get raped if someone knew I had a pistol on my hip. People wouldn't steal if they thought the consequence would be death.

    Just my .02. Doubt many will agree here but I refuse to compromise my beliefs.
    Do you watch the video the shooter made?
    They all could have had guns, they would still be dead.
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  • Smh. Shame. I thought we were on the same page with violence.

    Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Zero guns have decided to fire themselves and kill anyone.

    Right now the people in the ghettos who have guns, didn't obtain them legally. If we remove all rights to buy guns, then we have zero chance to defend ourselves against the criminals who obtain them illegally.

    Anything else is spin and thinking too much into.

    If we all had a pistol on our hip the world would be so much better. I wouldn't get raped if someone knew I had a pistol on my hip. People wouldn't steal if they thought the consequence would be death.

    Just my .02. Doubt many will agree here but I refuse to compromise my beliefs.
    You mean like at the O.K. Corral?

    Don't you think if everyone was armed like you think they should be there might be a few angry moments that lead to regrettable shootings? Like, for example, the guy who shot the guy in the movie theater because he was texting?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • "mellow drama"

    I wish I was near a building that I could jump off of.
    Isn't that a Beatles song?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,131

    Doesn't our population equal all of theirs together?
    The more important thing to consider is demographics. The US is pretty far from "United" in terms of finances, race, privilege, morality, political affiliations, cultural elements etc....

    In a large population where several groups within that population are all fighting amongst themselves, a common good or goal is difficult to establish. Add to that a media culture that is serving a blood-thirsty bunch of people their daily dose of hate, vitriol and vengeance in 24-hour feeds and yes, there will be problems with violence.

    It appears to me that Americans are more interested in saying "Fuck You" to each other than actually living in a peaceful society.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388

    Smh. Shame. I thought we were on the same page with violence.

    Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Zero guns have decided to fire themselves and kill anyone.

    Right now the people in the ghettos who have guns, didn't obtain them legally. If we remove all rights to buy guns, then we have zero chance to defend ourselves against the criminals who obtain them illegally.

    Anything else is spin and thinking too much into.

    If we all had a pistol on our hip the world would be so much better. I wouldn't get raped if someone knew I had a pistol on my hip. People wouldn't steal if they thought the consequence would be death.

    Just my .02. Doubt many will agree here but I refuse to compromise my beliefs.
    Having a gun on you increases your chances of dying by gun. You are no safer. All an illusion.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,525
    rgambs said:

    Do you watch the video the shooter made?
    They all could have had guns, they would still be dead.
    I don't understand why that doesn't sink in for so many people. It's like the idiots guarding the recruitment centers. If I want to shoot up a recruitment center and you are guarding it you just became my first target. Small minds....
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,246
    edited August 2015

    I suspect not, but even if that were the case, so what? The graph is not total deaths, it's deaths per 100,000, so differences in population number are already accounted for.
    Exactly. (Tempo, ya gotta read the units when you look at a graph! ;) )
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    "mellow drama"

    I wish I was near a building that I could jump off of.
    HAHHAHAHHA thanks man !

    Godfather.

  • What's the obsession with owning a weapon? To me anyone who thinks that they must own a weapon already has a mental illness.
    looking to hear of the earth
  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    PJ_Soul said:

    I would NEVER support any kind of "full media blackout" on anything, and I actually find this line of thinking, which has been quite popular ever since the movie theatre massacre (I think Anderson Cooper got it started), quite disturbing. It should not be the media's job to decide what the public should and shouldn't focus on in a story. They should give equal coversage to all aspects of a story, and it is the public's job to decide what to focus on. The media shouldn't be just focusing in on HOW. They need to cover the whole WHAT WHERE WHEN HOW and WHY.
    PJ Soul, I feel you, and I do agree with you in principle. I'm a big fan of freedom of speech and independent reporting. The problem is that in practice, today, in our current reality, that part of your quote which I bolded is already in practice. Because they focus the coverage on the the aspects that sell, because that is unfortunately their job. Get them pageviews you know? So if you look at the coverage of the Charleston shooting it was mostly focused on the shooter and his nonsense, with a small fraction of coverage on the victims and their families. I can't tell you where the line of thinking comes from, but the reason I understand it is because particularly in this dude's case where he was trying to get his shit on social media from the beginning with that go pro, they are seeking media attention. They want to be famous. I say 'they' but I mean this guy. I'm not really big on giving murderers what they want. You know.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,246
    edited August 2015
    ldent42 said:

    PJ Soul, I feel you, and I do agree with you in principle. I'm a big fan of freedom of speech and independent reporting. The problem is that in practice, today, in our current reality, that part of your quote which I bolded is already in practice. Because they focus the coverage on the the aspects that sell, because that is unfortunately their job. Get them pageviews you know? So if you look at the coverage of the Charleston shooting it was mostly focused on the shooter and his nonsense, with a small fraction of coverage on the victims and their families. I can't tell you where the line of thinking comes from, but the reason I understand it is because particularly in this dude's case where he was trying to get his shit on social media from the beginning with that go pro, they are seeking media attention. They want to be famous. I say 'they' but I mean this guy. I'm not really big on giving murderers what they want. You know.
    Obviously I know that, but the issue is that the public itself was not calling for the media to censor itself in order to not offend and to be "sensitive". And the media itself openly talks about making that decision, and the public actually congratulates them on it instead of decrying it. And they are doing this despite the money, not to make it, which to me is actually worse, because it is necessarily more restrictive.
    I totally disagree with your evaluation of the media's coverage of the Charleston shooting btw. There was a big focus on the families and victims, and on all the mourners.
    Finally, I think that the shooter's intent is completely irrelevant. I don't care what the shooter wanted, and that shouldn't impact the media's coverage either way IMO.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    What's the obsession with owning a weapon? To me anyone who thinks that they must own a weapon already has a mental illness.

    to me anyone who believes thier opinion trumps others his a mantal illness...but I'm no doctor.

    Godfather.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,525

    to me anyone who believes thier opinion trumps others his a mantal illness...but I'm no doctor.

    Godfather.

    omg
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,981

    omg
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  • Yeah but you didn't answer the question. Why do you need a weapon? It seems like such a drastic thing.
    looking to hear of the earth
  • to me anyone who believes thier opinion trumps others his a mantal illness...but I'm no doctor.

    Godfather.

    F**k... the last thing anyone wants is a mantal illness.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    What's the obsession with owning a weapon? To me anyone who thinks that they must own a weapon already has a mental illness.

    Pretty broad brush you're painting with. Are you saying security guards, police, hunters, ranchers, etc... are all mentally ill? Are you saying olympians (shooting and biathlon) are mentally ill? Are you saying Gern, RR, and other board members who have posted that they own firearms are mentally ill? Just trying to understand this post, which lacks any sort of specifics and leads me to the same conclusion GF reached.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,246

    to me anyone who believes thier opinion trumps others his a mantal illness...but I'm no doctor.

    Godfather.

    All opinions are equal, no matter how ridiculous! =)
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,981
    jeffbr said:

    Pretty broad brush you're painting with. Are you saying security guards, police, hunters, ranchers, etc... are all mentally ill? Are you saying olympians (shooting and biathlon) are mentally ill? Are you saying Gern, RR, and other board members who have posted that they own firearms are mentally ill? Just trying to understand this post, which lacks any sort of specifics and leads me to the same conclusion GF reached.
    That he has a mantal illness?
  • My question is why do you need a gun or a weapon? Still haven't gotten an answer.
    looking to hear of the earth
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661

    Smh. Shame. I thought we were on the same page with violence.

    Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Zero guns have decided to fire themselves and kill anyone.

    Right now the people in the ghettos who have guns, didn't obtain them legally. If we remove all rights to buy guns, then we have zero chance to defend ourselves against the criminals who obtain them illegally.

    Anything else is spin and thinking too much into.

    If we all had a pistol on our hip the world would be so much better. I wouldn't get raped if someone knew I had a pistol on my hip. People wouldn't steal if they thought the consequence would be death.

    Just my .02. Doubt many will agree here but I refuse to compromise my beliefs.
    You realize that these three people could have had an AK-47 strapped to each of their shoulders and they still would have been killed. They were ambushed by a crazy person.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    That he has a mantal illness?
    :lol:
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,525

    My question is why do you need a gun or a weapon? Still haven't gotten an answer.

    I bought mine because we had a stalker issue.

    I keep the gun separate from the ammo. If I ever had to get the thing on short notice I would be screwed since I would have to find everything, load it, figure out how to fire it (since I haven't fired it in years), etc.

    I might as well just get a nice baseball bat.

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,826

    What's the obsession with owning a weapon? To me anyone who thinks that they must own a weapon already has a mental illness.

    I m 37 and started hunting with my dad and grandfather when I was ten. I ll continue the tradition with my own kids. I guess we all have mental illnesses you dumb ass.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,110

    F**k... the last thing anyone wants is a mantal illness.
    My therapist said I had a mantal illness

    So I bought a gun


    :hang_loose:
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