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Now your doing the TB stretch. Discussing sexuality not murder. Mentioned 18 due to previous conversations on 17 year old.PJ_Soul said:Why are you talking about 18 year olds? They are not minors. And I never heard of a man getting persecuted for looking at 18 year olds. Also, I think there is just as much stigma around 40 year old women looking at 18 year olds as there is for men, if not more. I have no clue why you would think otherwise. I feel like you're just talking out of your ass now.
As for being mere animals.... Okay, so I guess just going around murdering people is okay too? Raping, murdering, pillaging. It's all just human nature, right?10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
Yes we all know Jared is a POS and many younger. Discussing Just a Girl being ridiculed on 17 yo comment. .PJ_Soul said:
You know they weren't all 17, right? There were younger girls than that.mickeyrat said:
17 is age of consent in NY. Legally he gets a pass on the sex itself but not on the for money part.PJ_Soul said:
That is true, but that is totally irrelevant anyway. They are minors, so consent isn't possible under the law.mickeyrat said:
Do you have any knowledge of human trafficking? We dont know anything other than minor females. So you cant really make that judgement as to their motives if they had any. While possible they acted of their own violition the likelyhood is greater they were indoctrinated into such a life.JUST A GIRL said:All I meant by the post was, there is a term known as "cougar" for women who prey on and enjoy being with younger men.
I find it creepy that people date people 10 years apart. They are now 33 and 23. But let's go back 10 years. Is it cute and funny if one person was 23, and the other 13? That would be some serious law breaking stuff. It would be wrong. So why later is it ok? We're not talking 70-80, were talking 20-30.
It's not about the age.. It's about the term cougar and what it means. What's the term for the guy who likes younger girls? Creepy guy. Pedophile etc. that's my point.
Jared is wrong in this situation. No doubt. But the girls weren't innocent victims. They were selling themselves in the first place.
But yes, many many many young girls are driven or lured into prostitution through manipulation, illegal actions, forced addiction, sexual abuse, etc etc etc. I am sickened by anyone who is ready to blame 13 - 17 year old girls rather than the adults who pay to rape them.
Morally wrong on both parts. Legally only on one specific to the 17yr old.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments like what you just did. . Pretty simple concept no? Go reread the posts in question. Also two wrongs do t make a right but alas.......Drowned Out said:I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in.
As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well?
callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
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But it really was a contender for worst post ever. I don't see the problem.callen said:
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments like what you just did. . Pretty simple concept no? Go reread the posts in question. Also two wrongs do t make a right but alas.......Drowned Out said:I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in.
As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well?
callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
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Pretty sure referencing jag.callen said:
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments like what you just did. . Pretty simple concept no? Go reread the posts in question. Also two wrongs do t make a right but alas.......Drowned Out said:I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in.
As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well?
callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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callen said:
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments. Pretty simple concept no?Drowned Out said:I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in.
As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well?
callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
this was addressing lame ass comments and calling names, was it not? if you hate something....callen said:You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.
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Jared has a serious problem. His partner in crime, the head of his charity, was busted a year ago and he couldn't part with video evidence of underage girls his buddy compiled. This is a millionaire who lucked himself into one of the greatest gigs ever and he couldn't find the strength to dispose of an SD card that would one day become his hangman's noose.
If it wasn't for one of the five rarest dogs in the U.S., he would have probably gotten away free. He took precautions and probably destroyed all his hard drives but figured no on would be able to find a SD card, so he kept hold of his first hand produced child porn.
Any sane person would have smashed that SD card with a hammer, set it on fire, and jettisoned it in a sack of rocks to the deepest spot in Lake Superior.
But he couldn't do it because he is a sick man and decided to roll the dice.
Why is anyone defending this guy?Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
Oh come on. I've read some head scratchers. Hell I'd nominate few posts on this thread.PJ_Soul said:
But it really was a contender for worst post ever. I don't see the problem.callen said:
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments like what you just did. . Pretty simple concept no? Go reread the posts in question. Also two wrongs do t make a right but alas.......Drowned Out said:I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in.
As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well?
callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
Ha. Human sexuality. NOT what the heck you thought.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Yes. Exactly. Huh? Wtf are you trying to say?callen said:
Huh?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
So after a girl loses her virginity... she's fair game? Is this what you're implying? It seems to be.callen said:
If a girl that's 17 prostitutes herself without being forced then yeah they helped facilitate. Does it make Jared less guilty no.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
And you're lending support to a poster that is suggesting these underage girls were culpable to crime a man is guilty of..callen said:You fkers are again piling it on. Instead of "worst post ever" which it clearly isn't debate the topics. This isn't middle school.
Would like to point out just couple hundred years ago 17 Yo men and women were breeding. Was the natural cycle. 17 year olds aren't innocent. I wasn't innocent at 17 and know many of you ladies weren't either.
So yeah I get what just a girl was saying.
Wonder age of loosing ones virginity is these days and what it was in 1700's.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
I'm once again assuming stuff from your cryptic posts. TB is me? I do the 'stretch thing'? You don't? You don't chime in with silly comments like 'kill em all' when discourse is on display?callen said:
Now your doing the TB stretch. Discussing sexuality not murder. Mentioned 18 due to previous conversations on 17 year old.PJ_Soul said:Why are you talking about 18 year olds? They are not minors. And I never heard of a man getting persecuted for looking at 18 year olds. Also, I think there is just as much stigma around 40 year old women looking at 18 year olds as there is for men, if not more. I have no clue why you would think otherwise. I feel like you're just talking out of your ass now.
As for being mere animals.... Okay, so I guess just going around murdering people is okay too? Raping, murdering, pillaging. It's all just human nature, right?
Go on. Keep digging a hole for yourself right beside JAG's. Nobody appreciates describing the double standard that exists by justifying statutory rape with 'we're human', 'it was okay in medieval times', or 'cougars get away with it so why can't ex fat guys that eat at Subway?'."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Could understand the need of the feds for being mum but I hope this "escort" service he reportedly used is being seen to by the feds. Shit NY state too._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Yes TB is you and yes you stretched and hardly feel I'm in a hole. Now I may be an a hole. Ha.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm once again assuming stuff from your cryptic posts. TB is me? I do the 'stretch thing'? You don't? You don't chime in with silly comments like 'kill em all' when discourse is on display?callen said:
Now your doing the TB stretch. Discussing sexuality not murder. Mentioned 18 due to previous conversations on 17 year old.PJ_Soul said:Why are you talking about 18 year olds? They are not minors. And I never heard of a man getting persecuted for looking at 18 year olds. Also, I think there is just as much stigma around 40 year old women looking at 18 year olds as there is for men, if not more. I have no clue why you would think otherwise. I feel like you're just talking out of your ass now.
As for being mere animals.... Okay, so I guess just going around murdering people is okay too? Raping, murdering, pillaging. It's all just human nature, right?
Go on. Keep digging a hole for yourself right beside JAG's. Nobody appreciates describing the double standard that exists by justifying statutory rape with 'we're human', 'it was okay in medieval times', or 'cougars get away with it so why can't ex fat guys that eat at Subway?'.
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Not sure about that, but I am sure that calling people out on tactics you employ yourself is... well... whatever you want to call it. I'm referring to the 'name calling' (to which Drowned spoke to) as well as the 'old exaggeration ploy' you claimed to be above (which we know isn't the case).callen said:
Yes TB is you and yes you stretched and hardly feel I'm in a hole. Now I may be an a hole. Ha.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm once again assuming stuff from your cryptic posts. TB is me? I do the 'stretch thing'? You don't? You don't chime in with silly comments like 'kill em all' when discourse is on display?callen said:
Now your doing the TB stretch. Discussing sexuality not murder. Mentioned 18 due to previous conversations on 17 year old.PJ_Soul said:Why are you talking about 18 year olds? They are not minors. And I never heard of a man getting persecuted for looking at 18 year olds. Also, I think there is just as much stigma around 40 year old women looking at 18 year olds as there is for men, if not more. I have no clue why you would think otherwise. I feel like you're just talking out of your ass now.
As for being mere animals.... Okay, so I guess just going around murdering people is okay too? Raping, murdering, pillaging. It's all just human nature, right?
Go on. Keep digging a hole for yourself right beside JAG's. Nobody appreciates describing the double standard that exists by justifying statutory rape with 'we're human', 'it was okay in medieval times', or 'cougars get away with it so why can't ex fat guys that eat at Subway?'."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Yes. That's what I was referring to in my earlier response to your link. These young women were exploited by multiple people.mickeyrat said:Could understand the need of the feds for being mum but I hope this "escort" service he reportedly used is being seen to by the feds. Shit NY state too.
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Didnt catch that. Threads gone off the rails. As usual.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
Yes. That's what I was referring to in my earlier response to your link. These young women were exploited by multiple people.mickeyrat said:Could understand the need of the feds for being mum but I hope this "escort" service he reportedly used is being seen to by the feds. Shit NY state too.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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Didnt catch that. Threads gone off the rails. As usual.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
Yes. That's what I was referring to in my earlier response to your link. These young women were exploited by multiple people.mickeyrat said:Could understand the need of the feds for being mum but I hope this "escort" service he reportedly used is being seen to by the feds. Shit NY state too.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
I would not be surprised if there is a good amount of cooperation on Fogle's part included in his deal that isn't being flashed in the media. There almost certainly has to be an ongoing investigation.mickeyrat said:
Didnt catch that. Threads gone off the rails. As usual.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
Yes. That's what I was referring to in my earlier response to your link. These young women were exploited by multiple people.mickeyrat said:Could understand the need of the feds for being mum but I hope this "escort" service he reportedly used is being seen to by the feds. Shit NY state too.
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Lol. No, really. A post about how child victims of pedophiles carry blame is definitely a contender.callen said:
Oh come on. I've read some head scratchers. Hell I'd nominate few posts on this thread.PJ_Soul said:
But it really was a contender for worst post ever. I don't see the problem.callen said:
Call me what you want. Don't give a crap. Debate the post not lame ass comments like what you just did. . Pretty simple concept no? Go reread the posts in question. Also two wrongs do t make a right but alas.......Drowned Out said:I see JAG's point(s) - they're just poorly made, and made in the worst thread a person could make them in.
As for piling on....when someone posts something stupid and someone calls them on it...are we all then supposed to shut up, or are we allowed an opinion on the post as well?
callen - the white knight act gets a little tired.....We can either try to gain respect on this board thru our posting style and opinions, then hope for leniency when we inevitably post stupid shit......or we can say fuck the respect and roll with the punches that follow our stupid shit. I'd bet nearly half of JAG's posts contain a line or two complaining about the board and everyone on it....Can't say fuck the respect AND expect leniency when you post stupid shit, then on top of all that - play the victim card.
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