Jared the sandwich guy ?

jeffbr

hedonist said:

You don't fuck children and get my mercy.

Exactly this. I don't give 2 shits what happens to Jared at this point, except that I hope he's profoundly troubled by his actions for the rest of his life. I don't wish anal rape on him. I don't wish a beat down on him. If either happens, I will lose no sleep. He will get what he deserves, and that will primarily be the torment and anguish of being locked in a cage away from his family for his kids' formative years. That works for me.

Drowned Out

jeffbr said:

hedonist said:

You don't fuck children and get my mercy.

Exactly this. I don't give 2 shits what happens to Jared at this point, except that I hope he's profoundly troubled by his actions for the rest of his life. I don't wish anal rape on him. I don't wish a beat down on him. If either happens, I will lose no sleep. He will get what he deserves, and that will primarily be the torment and anguish of being locked in a cage away from his family for his kids' formative years. That works for me.

That's not far from where I'm at....but saying you'll lose no sleep over rape and vigilante prison justice could be said about the majority of people in a max prison if we look at their crimes individually. When the status quo is rape and torture (in the form of what amounts to sanctioned beatings) for a disturbingly large portion of the prison population, silence or not losing sleep contributes to the problem....imho, reasonable people should make it clear that rape and violence in prison is not acceptable despite the feelings the prisoner's crimes stir in us. This complacency/acceptance contributes to the culture of violence we see all around us, in ways similar to military/police hero worship/event spectacles, the death penalty, reaching for reasons to support the second amendment etc....we condone certain acts of violence all the time, and I think it just makes things worse all around...I have to wonder how being repeatedly raped and beaten affects the psyche of these people. most of whom will be released back to society one day. None of these concerns should be conflated with mercy....not the same thing....

lolobugg

Drowned Out said:

jeffbr said:

hedonist said:

You don't fuck children and get my mercy.

Exactly this. I don't give 2 shits what happens to Jared at this point, except that I hope he's profoundly troubled by his actions for the rest of his life. I don't wish anal rape on him. I don't wish a beat down on him. If either happens, I will lose no sleep. He will get what he deserves, and that will primarily be the torment and anguish of being locked in a cage away from his family for his kids' formative years. That works for me.

That's not far from where I'm at....but saying you'll lose no sleep over rape and vigilante prison justice could be said about the majority of people in a max prison if we look at their crimes individually. When the status quo is rape and torture (in the form of what amounts to sanctioned beatings) for a disturbingly large portion of the prison population, silence or not losing sleep contributes to the problem....imho, reasonable people should make it clear that rape and violence in prison is not acceptable despite the feelings the prisoner's crimes stir in us. This complacency/acceptance contributes to the culture of violence we see all around us, in ways similar to military/police hero worship/event spectacles, the death penalty, reaching for reasons to support the second amendment etc....we condone certain acts of violence all the time, and I think it just makes things worse all around...I have to wonder how being repeatedly raped and beaten affects the psyche of these people. most of whom will be released back to society one day. None of these concerns should be conflated with mercy....not the same thing....

that is a noble stance... I just can't change the way I feel... it is a shortcoming of mine....
let's just say that I wished that there was an elderly driver around that mistook the gas pedal for the brake when old Jared and Georgie the Second were posing for that little picture.

hedonist

Yeah...Drowned, you know I love ya but I'm of a similar mind to lolo on this particular subject. The strongest emotions I feel for Jared - pretty much for anyone who has acted similarly - are anger, disgust, and the hope that if karma exists, it visits him in time.

Drowned Out

lolobugg said:

Drowned Out said:

jeffbr said:

hedonist said:

You don't fuck children and get my mercy.

Exactly this. I don't give 2 shits what happens to Jared at this point, except that I hope he's profoundly troubled by his actions for the rest of his life. I don't wish anal rape on him. I don't wish a beat down on him. If either happens, I will lose no sleep. He will get what he deserves, and that will primarily be the torment and anguish of being locked in a cage away from his family for his kids' formative years. That works for me.

That's not far from where I'm at....but saying you'll lose no sleep over rape and vigilante prison justice could be said about the majority of people in a max prison if we look at their crimes individually. When the status quo is rape and torture (in the form of what amounts to sanctioned beatings) for a disturbingly large portion of the prison population, silence or not losing sleep contributes to the problem....imho, reasonable people should make it clear that rape and violence in prison is not acceptable despite the feelings the prisoner's crimes stir in us. This complacency/acceptance contributes to the culture of violence we see all around us, in ways similar to military/police hero worship/event spectacles, the death penalty, reaching for reasons to support the second amendment etc....we condone certain acts of violence all the time, and I think it just makes things worse all around...I have to wonder how being repeatedly raped and beaten affects the psyche of these people. most of whom will be released back to society one day. None of these concerns should be conflated with mercy....not the same thing....

that is a noble stance... I just can't change the way I feel... it is a shortcoming of mine....
let's just say that I wished that there was an elderly driver around that mistook the gas pedal for the brake when old Jared and Georgie the Second were posing for that little picture.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery
I wonder how people would react to prison justice if it was dragged out of the shadows....maybe someday we'll get a politician that will make rape and beatings punishment for certain crimes part of their platform...I'm curious how many people would maintain their stance if it was put in plain terms instead of the current wink wink approach of letting the prisoners they loathe do the dirty work.

Last-12-Exit

JUST A GIRL said:

More violence and fat shaming now too. Again, I've said it, everyone here is so passive until it becomes acceptable to hate on someone... Then we hear death threats and so many calls for violence it's not even funny

Two wrongs don't make a right

Can you name one poster who has been passive until it's convenient? Seriously, just one.

Drowned Out

hedonist said:

Yeah...Drowned, you know I love ya but I'm of a similar mind to lolo on this particular subject. The strongest emotions I feel for Jared - pretty much for anyone who has acted similarly - are anger, disgust, and the hope that if karma exists, it visits him in time.

That's your prerogative....I don't begrudge you for that at all... it's understandable given that you can personalize this more than I....I hope you understand that I'm not defending him nor his crimes. If we disagree on suitable punishment - length of sentence, death penalty etc (not sure if we do tbh), that's one thing....but extrajudicial punishment / vigilante justice is not cool in my books.

Drowned Out

Last-12-Exit said:

JUST A GIRL said:

More violence and fat shaming now too. Again, I've said it, everyone here is so passive until it becomes acceptable to hate on someone... Then we hear death threats and so many calls for violence it's not even funny

Two wrongs don't make a right

Can you name one poster who has been passive until it's convenient? Seriously, just one.

ya, I'd say most people here are pretty consistent in their stances.

hedonist

Drowned Out said:

hedonist said:

Yeah...Drowned, you know I love ya but I'm of a similar mind to lolo on this particular subject. The strongest emotions I feel for Jared - pretty much for anyone who has acted similarly - are anger, disgust, and the hope that if karma exists, it visits him in time.

That's your prerogative....I don't begrudge you for that at all... it's understandable given that you can personalize this more than I....I hope you understand that I'm not defending him nor his crimes. If we disagree on suitable punishment - length of sentence, death penalty etc (not sure if we do tbh), that's one thing....but extrajudicial punishment / vigilante justice is not cool in my books.

I know this

Thirty Bills Unpaid

JUST A GIRL said:

More violence and fat shaming now too. Again, I've said it, everyone here is so passive until it becomes acceptable to hate on someone... Then we hear death threats and so many calls for violence it's not even funny

Two wrongs don't make a right

What is your agenda here?

Exactly what do you think is appropriate for a self-indulgent scumbag that f**ked young children (as Hedo so succinctly put it)?

Why do you express chagrin over the fact that good people here are repulsed by such a worthless piece of shit?

In my area, another scumbag convicted of over 50 counts of pedophilia at various times has just lost his appeal in the BC Supreme Court for his most recent conviction. He pleaded that his right to privacy was invaded when an on-line investigator sourced him to 1000s of graphic child pornography images.

Our f**king tax dollars have funded this piece of shit in trials, in prison, in rehabilitation, in law enforcement and... lives have been affected through his sick and dirty actions. He's gotten more than his fair share of 'fairness' and 'compassion'. And all this f**king garbage this worthless piece of shit demands as he tries to run from his crimes points to the failings of our justice system that tries so hard to serve f**king losers that it fails to serve our victims.

And, once again, I cite mentalities such as yours hindering any chance of reform that might put the brakes on such nonsense. David Caza... you have multiple convictions for child pornography. Please go die and stop bothering the general, hard working, moral public... abusing our legal system that is so ripe for abusing... and most importantly... leave our kids alone.

josevolution

How can anyone defend this dirt bag he's the lowest form of human on earth , you screw young kids you should be put away for life .....

PJfanwillneverleave1

JUST A GIRL said:

More violence and fat shaming now too. Again, I've said it, everyone here is so passive until it becomes acceptable to hate on someone... Then we hear death threats and so many calls for violence it's not even funny

Two wrongs don't make a right

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Drowned Out

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josevolution said:

How can anyone defend this dirt bag he's the lowest form of human on earth , you screw young kids you should be put away for life .....

who do you see as defending him?
Hopefully not me....He will definitely not get what he deserves from the courts, I think that's a huge problem with a lot of variables and intricacies....But not a problem that should be solved with a footlong or whatever the rape joke of the day is....
Is saying that no rape is ok the same as defending this guy? man I hope we haven't come to that....

josevolution

Drowned Out said:

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josevolution said:

How can anyone defend this dirt bag he's the lowest form of human on earth , you screw young kids you should be put away for life .....

who do you see as defending him?
Hopefully not me....He will definitely not get what he deserves from the courts, I think that's a huge problem with a lot of variables and intricacies....But not a problem that should be solved with a footlong or whatever the rape joke of the day is....
Is saying that no rape is ok the same as defending this guy? man I hope we haven't come to that....

No it wasn't meant for you more of a general ? statement and i agree with your assessment about the jail jokes no one should be raped in any way ....

PJfanwillneverleave1

Drowned Out said:

jeffbr said:

hedonist said:

You don't fuck children and get my mercy.

Exactly this. I don't give 2 shits what happens to Jared at this point, except that I hope he's profoundly troubled by his actions for the rest of his life. I don't wish anal rape on him. I don't wish a beat down on him. If either happens, I will lose no sleep. He will get what he deserves, and that will primarily be the torment and anguish of being locked in a cage away from his family for his kids' formative years. That works for me.

...I have to wonder how being repeatedly raped and beaten affects the psyche of these people. most of whom will be released back to society one day.

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PJfanwillneverleave1

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PJ_Soul

It seem like there is another story every single week in Vancouver where a dangerous sex offender with a high risk to re-offend who was recently released from prison has just walked away from his halfway home and is on the loose. Each story warns that we all have to be on alert until the the scumbag is caught. And every week there is also a story about a dangerous sex offender who has been released and is moving into the community, and again, we all have to be on the lookout and aware of the danger the person poses to the public. And every single week I feel enraged by our justice system. The sentences given to dangerous sex offenders (including pedophiles) are a fucking joke in this country, and in the US for the most part. I think the laws need to be really worked on so that someone who is designated a "dangerous sex offender with a high risk to re-offend" NEVER gets out of prison. If the law can't at least manage that, it is fucking failing miserably.

As for these fantasies about rape..... WTF????? What kind of decent human being wishes for rapists to rape anyone? What kind of fucking atmosphere are you people hoping for in our prisons??!

Drowned Out

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Drowned Out said:

jeffbr said:

hedonist said:

You don't fuck children and get my mercy.

Exactly this. I don't give 2 shits what happens to Jared at this point, except that I hope he's profoundly troubled by his actions for the rest of his life. I don't wish anal rape on him. I don't wish a beat down on him. If either happens, I will lose no sleep. He will get what he deserves, and that will primarily be the torment and anguish of being locked in a cage away from his family for his kids' formative years. That works for me.

...I have to wonder how being repeatedly raped and beaten affects the psyche of these people. most of whom will be released back to society one day.

Who gives a fuck.
Silly rabit,You have it all wrong.
They should repeatedly be raped and beaten and then killed not let out.

Or just killed.
Whatever

who should rape them? Are you volunteering or just fantasizing?
I give a fuck. Until the laws change and they are locked up forever, we still have to deal with them upon release....letting them out more damaged than when they went in doesn't seem too bright.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Drowned Out said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Drowned Out said:

jeffbr said:

hedonist said:

You don't fuck children and get my mercy.

Exactly this. I don't give 2 shits what happens to Jared at this point, except that I hope he's profoundly troubled by his actions for the rest of his life. I don't wish anal rape on him. I don't wish a beat down on him. If either happens, I will lose no sleep. He will get what he deserves, and that will primarily be the torment and anguish of being locked in a cage away from his family for his kids' formative years. That works for me.

...I have to wonder how being repeatedly raped and beaten affects the psyche of these people. most of whom will be released back to society one day.

Who gives a fuck.
Silly rabit,You have it all wrong.
They should repeatedly be raped and beaten and then killed not let out.

Or just killed.
Whatever

who should rape them? Are you volunteering or just fantasizing?
I give a fuck. Until the laws change and they are locked up forever, we still have to deal with them upon release....letting them out more damaged than when they went in doesn't seem too bright.

Prisoners have a pecking order - no pun intended.
I am fine with the inmates running the asylum.
That is why I said don't let these sick fuck pedos out - kill them.

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Drowned Out said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Drowned Out said:

jeffbr said:

hedonist said:

You don't fuck children and get my mercy.

Exactly this. I don't give 2 shits what happens to Jared at this point, except that I hope he's profoundly troubled by his actions for the rest of his life. I don't wish anal rape on him. I don't wish a beat down on him. If either happens, I will lose no sleep. He will get what he deserves, and that will primarily be the torment and anguish of being locked in a cage away from his family for his kids' formative years. That works for me.

...I have to wonder how being repeatedly raped and beaten affects the psyche of these people. most of whom will be released back to society one day.

Who gives a fuck.
Silly rabit,You have it all wrong.
They should repeatedly be raped and beaten and then killed not let out.

Or just killed.
Whatever

who should rape them? Are you volunteering or just fantasizing?
I give a fuck. Until the laws change and they are locked up forever, we still have to deal with them upon release....letting them out more damaged than when they went in doesn't seem too bright.

Prisoners have a pecking order - no pun intended.
I am fine with the inmates running the asylum.
That is why I said don't let these sick fuck pedos out - kill them.

Well then maybe you would be willing to get out there and start recruiting people stupid enough to want to work in the kind of corrections system you are proposing, where going to work each day is the same as confronting some kind of barbarian hoard (who are all fat and happy from eating all the non-violent offenders in their midst), all for $24 an hour.