^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
They would ascertain that all levels of the judicial system are made aware of that individual. Can't have a secret society of pedos running around in thoughts.
oh, right. It doesnt happen now, is that it?
Guy inn my state was setenced today to 4 lifeterms plus 145 years for an old case that stemmed from 1997 to 2003. was charged last year. Not sure what the legal basis was for being able to charge much less convict after so long , but they got him. And his wife.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
They would ascertain that all levels of the judicial system are made aware of that individual. Can't have a secret society of pedos running around in thoughts.
But it's not secret. They're acknowledging the desire and seeking help.
I'm not one to cut a ped a break (for some reason that made me laugh) but hell, trying to cut off your urges at the pass?
Not really. If more people started reporting these peoples thoughts less victims would ensue because they would inevitably be monitored better. Those two in the article now know what the long arm of the law means.
^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
They would ascertain that all levels of the judicial system are made aware of that individual. Can't have a secret society of pedos running around in thoughts.
But it's not secret. They're acknowledging the desire and seeking help.
I'm not one to cut a ped a break (for some reason that made me laugh) but hell, trying to cut off your urges at the pass?
Go the fuck for it, with my full support.
Hedo That is just a wrong way to think in every fucking way.
^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
Who was the scumbag that spent his shitty existence watching child pornography. Then, unable to contain his urges anymore, stepped outside his flat... and randomly abducted the next young girl that walked by him?
He raped her, killed her, then chopped her up and buried her parts in various spots? I believe it was in Ontario (it was Canada for sure)? I googled the details of the case and disturbingly... many similar cases presented themselves.
I don't know exactly what I'm suggesting... but it watchdogs did monitor on-line behaviour and plucked this shithead from the general public... a little girl would still be alive. I guess I could safely say that.
Zero tolerance for pedophilia. Zero. F**king mutants.
Not really. If more people started reporting these peoples thoughts less victims would ensue because they would inevitably be monitored better. Those two in the article now know what the long arm of the law means.
There is no way to even continuously monitor everybody who has already been convicted of a crime or is even on bail, let alone everybody else. There's no "inevitable" about it.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Not really. If more people started reporting these peoples thoughts less victims would ensue because they would inevitably be monitored better. Those two in the article now know what the long arm of the law means.
There is no way to even continuously monitor everybody who has already been convicted of a crime or is even on bail, let alone everybody else. There's no "inevitable" about it.
Correct.
That's why the words 'high risk to reoffend' makes my blood boil.
We've head these words way too much and, in most cases, they were accurate. Exactly what the f**k do we owe shitheads who prey on children?
^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
Who was the scumbag that spent his shitty existence watching child pornography. Then, unable to contain his urges anymore, stepped outside his flat... and randomly abducted the next young girl that walked by him?
He raped her, killed her, then chopped her up and buried her parts in various spots? I believe it was in Ontario (it was Canada for sure)? I googled the details of the case and disturbingly... many similar cases presented themselves.
I don't know exactly what I'm suggesting... but it watchdogs did monitor on-line behaviour and plucked this shithead from the general public... a little girl would still be alive. I guess I could safely say that.
Zero tolerance for pedophilia. Zero. F**king mutants.
Possessing, accessing, selling or even passing along child pornography is already a crime, and the police already do what they can to monitor for this and apprehend. The internet crimes division, including child porn, of police departments are booming. I'm sure you are aware of this; news stories on this are pretty common. I'm also not sure what you are suggesting either, since that's completely different from the situation that the article describes, in which people (okay, men) with pedophilic thoughts are actively trying to find ways to make them stop, and to prevent themselves from acting on them.
Realistically, Thirty, what would you suggest someone who has these thoughts and is horrified by them do as an alternative? Commit suicide?
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^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
They would ascertain that all levels of the judicial system are made aware of that individual. Can't have a secret society of pedos running around in thoughts.
But it's not secret. They're acknowledging the desire and seeking help.
I'm not one to cut a ped a break (for some reason that made me laugh) but hell, trying to cut off your urges at the pass?
Go the fuck for it, with my full support.
Hedo That is just a wrong way to think in every fucking way.
Whether or not you or anyone else has had experiences with someone gets their rocks off by preying on children (and sincerely hope those numbers here are low), it's no one's place to tell me my way thinking is wrong.
My thinking is mine. My processing of my life is mine. With much forethought, contemplation, and - I think - some wisening-up over the many years since then.
All for punishment. Full punishment, fuck coddling.
Also all for prevention. Many roads one can take for the latter.
^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
They would ascertain that all levels of the judicial system are made aware of that individual. Can't have a secret society of pedos running around in thoughts.
But it's not secret. They're acknowledging the desire and seeking help.
I'm not one to cut a ped a break (for some reason that made me laugh) but hell, trying to cut off your urges at the pass?
Go the fuck for it, with my full support.
Hedo That is just a wrong way to think in every fucking way.
it's no one's place to tell me my way thinking is wrong.
My thinking is mine. My processing of my life is mine. With much forethought, contemplation, and - I think - some wisening-up over the many years since then.
Nope. Your thinking is wrong on this.
edit- what if every pedo said " it's no one's place to tell me my way of thinking is wrong."?
you are wrong hedo
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^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
They would ascertain that all levels of the judicial system are made aware of that individual. Can't have a secret society of pedos running around in thoughts.
But it's not secret. They're acknowledging the desire and seeking help.
I'm not one to cut a ped a break (for some reason that made me laugh) but hell, trying to cut off your urges at the pass?
Go the fuck for it, with my full support.
Hedo That is just a wrong way to think in every fucking way.
Whether or not you or anyone else has had experiences with someone gets their rocks off by preying on children (and sincerely hope those numbers here are low), it's no one's place to tell me my way thinking is wrong.
My thinking is mine. My processing of my life is mine. With much forethought, contemplation, and - I think - some wisening-up over the many years since then.
All for punishment. Full punishment, fuck coddling.
Also all for prevention. Many roads one can take for the latter.
Nope. Your thinking is wrong on this.
See, this is why the save-draft feature is so valuable. Who knows what might've happened had I actually posted a quasi "screw such clueless judgment and pomposity" response.
^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
They would ascertain that all levels of the judicial system are made aware of that individual. Can't have a secret society of pedos running around in thoughts.
But it's not secret. They're acknowledging the desire and seeking help.
I'm not one to cut a ped a break (for some reason that made me laugh) but hell, trying to cut off your urges at the pass?
Go the fuck for it, with my full support.
Hedo That is just a wrong way to think in every fucking way.
Whether or not you or anyone else has had experiences with someone gets their rocks off by preying on children (and sincerely hope those numbers here are low), it's no one's place to tell me my way thinking is wrong.
My thinking is mine. My processing of my life is mine. With much forethought, contemplation, and - I think - some wisening-up over the many years since then.
All for punishment. Full punishment, fuck coddling.
Also all for prevention. Many roads one can take for the latter.
Nope. Your thinking is wrong on this.
See, this is why the save-draft feature is so valuable. Who knows what might've happened had I actually posted a quasi "screw such clueless judgment and pomposity" response.
Thank goodness.
I edited. See above.
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PJfan. I'm talking about people seeking help for the problems they recognize.
And if you just compared my line of thinking and how I stated it to that of a child molester, that is beyond fucked up.
PJfan. I'm talking about people seeking help for the problems they recognize.
And if you just compared my line of thinking and how I stated it to that of a child molester, that is beyond fucked up.
Done playing your stupida fucking game.
You are talking about potential pedos. They should be monitored and made publicly aware via courts. The last few posts, hell, this thread is about pedos. If you want to late chime then get into the game.
PJfan. I'm talking about people seeking help for the problems they recognize.
And if you just compared my line of thinking and how I stated it to that of a child molester, that is beyond fucked up.
Done playing your stupida fucking game.
You are talking about potential pedos. They should be monitored and made publicly aware via courts. The last few posts, hell, this thread is about pedos. If you want to late chime then get into the game.
Gambo, to your comment, there is (self-control, on my part); I couldn't utilize it though, given the idiocy I saw in some comments.
And PJfan? Way to up the asshole-factor with your edit. I know you get some of your kicks at others' expense, but didn't think you'd sink so low.
Should you re-read with clarity come tomorrow, hope you'll get it.
PJfan. I'm talking about people seeking help for the problems they recognize.
And if you just compared my line of thinking and how I stated it to that of a child molester, that is beyond fucked up.
Done playing your stupida fucking game.
You are talking about potential pedos. They should be monitored and made publicly aware via courts. The last few posts, hell, this thread is about pedos. If you want to late chime then get into the game.
Gambo, to your comment, there is (self-control, on my part); I couldn't utilize it though, given the idiocy I saw in some comments.
And PJfan? Way to up the asshole-factor with your edit. I know you get some of your kicks at others' expense, but didn't think you'd sink so low.
Should you re-read with clarity come tomorrow, hope you'll get it.
This thread is about pedos. Not me. So again, I say your thoughts about people having pedo thoughts seeking help before they commit are wrong. They should be reported.
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Reading the last page of this thread, the term "The Thought Police" came to my mind. Where on earth have I heard that? Clockwork Orange? A Beatles song? "March of the Wooden Soldiers"? Cat's Cradle? "Apocalypse Now"? Where on earth did I hear or read that?
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
Who was the scumbag that spent his shitty existence watching child pornography. Then, unable to contain his urges anymore, stepped outside his flat... and randomly abducted the next young girl that walked by him?
He raped her, killed her, then chopped her up and buried her parts in various spots? I believe it was in Ontario (it was Canada for sure)? I googled the details of the case and disturbingly... many similar cases presented themselves.
I don't know exactly what I'm suggesting... but it watchdogs did monitor on-line behaviour and plucked this shithead from the general public... a little girl would still be alive. I guess I could safely say that.
Zero tolerance for pedophilia. Zero. F**king mutants.
Possessing, accessing, selling or even passing along child pornography is already a crime, and the police already do what they can to monitor for this and apprehend. The internet crimes division, including child porn, of police departments are booming. I'm sure you are aware of this; news stories on this are pretty common. I'm also not sure what you are suggesting either, since that's completely different from the situation that the article describes, in which people (okay, men) with pedophilic thoughts are actively trying to find ways to make them stop, and to prevent themselves from acting on them.
Realistically, Thirty, what would you suggest someone who has these thoughts and is horrified by them do as an alternative? Commit suicide?
Acting out on the thoughts is accessing child pornography. The moment this occurs, in my mind, a person has crossed the line.
If a person began to entertain the notion that little children were sexy... and they sought help with such deviant thoughts... I'd be in favour of helping them.
Once that line is crossed... I'm sorry... but I'm not in favour of trying to rehabilitate and rolling the dice on an offender when efforts to rehabilitate typically result in recidivism. Our current practices are fraught with weakness- they don't work.
Reading the last page of this thread, the term "The Thought Police" came to my mind. Where on earth have I heard that? Clockwork Orange? A Beatles song? "March of the Wooden Soldiers"? Cat's Cradle? "Apocalypse Now"? Where on earth did I hear or read that?
^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
Who was the scumbag that spent his shitty existence watching child pornography. Then, unable to contain his urges anymore, stepped outside his flat... and randomly abducted the next young girl that walked by him?
He raped her, killed her, then chopped her up and buried her parts in various spots? I believe it was in Ontario (it was Canada for sure)? I googled the details of the case and disturbingly... many similar cases presented themselves.
I don't know exactly what I'm suggesting... but it watchdogs did monitor on-line behaviour and plucked this shithead from the general public... a little girl would still be alive. I guess I could safely say that.
Zero tolerance for pedophilia. Zero. F**king mutants.
Possessing, accessing, selling or even passing along child pornography is already a crime, and the police already do what they can to monitor for this and apprehend. The internet crimes division, including child porn, of police departments are booming. I'm sure you are aware of this; news stories on this are pretty common. I'm also not sure what you are suggesting either, since that's completely different from the situation that the article describes, in which people (okay, men) with pedophilic thoughts are actively trying to find ways to make them stop, and to prevent themselves from acting on them.
Realistically, Thirty, what would you suggest someone who has these thoughts and is horrified by them do as an alternative? Commit suicide?
Acting out on the thoughts is accessing child pornography. The moment this occurs, in my mind, a person has crossed the line.
If a person began to entertain the notion that little children were sexy... and they sought help with such deviant thoughts... I'd be in favour of helping them.
Once that line is crossed... I'm sorry... but I'm not in favour of trying to rehabilitate and rolling the dice on an offender when efforts to rehabilitate typically result in recidivism. Our current practices are fraught with weakness- they don't work.
That's the same thing I'm saying. It's already a crime. Unless I'm not understand what you mean by "acting out on the thoughts is accessing child pornography". Do you actually mean just thinking thoughts? You do know that many, many people have thoughts about things that are illegal but don't act on them? Some of these thoughts are about things that would be sex crimes if acted on. For instance, rape fantasies are common, probably occurring in about 50% of guys. Rape is a crime. Does every man who has these fantasies cross a line, and deserve to be jailed?
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my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
^^^ Often, it is simple. If you have pedo thoughts it is wrong. Acting out on those thoughts is just well....... Divulging pedo thoughts must have consequences.
^^^ Well fuck that. If someone came to me and said they have pedophile urges I would detain them and call the police.
Well, I'm glad you're not in charge of treating people to prevent future sexual offending, then.
What would the police do? So far, just thinking about something is not a crime.
Who was the scumbag that spent his shitty existence watching child pornography. Then, unable to contain his urges anymore, stepped outside his flat... and randomly abducted the next young girl that walked by him?
He raped her, killed her, then chopped her up and buried her parts in various spots? I believe it was in Ontario (it was Canada for sure)? I googled the details of the case and disturbingly... many similar cases presented themselves.
I don't know exactly what I'm suggesting... but it watchdogs did monitor on-line behaviour and plucked this shithead from the general public... a little girl would still be alive. I guess I could safely say that.
Zero tolerance for pedophilia. Zero. F**king mutants.
Possessing, accessing, selling or even passing along child pornography is already a crime, and the police already do what they can to monitor for this and apprehend. The internet crimes division, including child porn, of police departments are booming. I'm sure you are aware of this; news stories on this are pretty common. I'm also not sure what you are suggesting either, since that's completely different from the situation that the article describes, in which people (okay, men) with pedophilic thoughts are actively trying to find ways to make them stop, and to prevent themselves from acting on them.
Realistically, Thirty, what would you suggest someone who has these thoughts and is horrified by them do as an alternative? Commit suicide?
Acting out on the thoughts is accessing child pornography. The moment this occurs, in my mind, a person has crossed the line.
If a person began to entertain the notion that little children were sexy... and they sought help with such deviant thoughts... I'd be in favour of helping them.
Once that line is crossed... I'm sorry... but I'm not in favour of trying to rehabilitate and rolling the dice on an offender when efforts to rehabilitate typically result in recidivism. Our current practices are fraught with weakness- they don't work.
That's the same thing I'm saying. It's already a crime. Unless I'm not understand what you mean by "acting out on the thoughts".
Having thoughts... recognizing those thoughts are impure... and seeking help for those thoughts is not a crime.
Entertaining those thoughts and accessing child pornography, or worse, is 'crossing the line'.
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Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,754
Reading the last page of this thread, the term "The Thought Police" came to my mind. Where on earth have I heard that? Clockwork Orange? A Beatles song? "March of the Wooden Soldiers"? Cat's Cradle? "Apocalypse Now"? Where on earth did I hear or read that?
The dream police they live inside of my head.
Cheap Trick! Thank you!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Reading the last page of this thread, the term "The Thought Police" came to my mind. Where on earth have I heard that? Clockwork Orange? A Beatles song? "March of the Wooden Soldiers"? Cat's Cradle? "Apocalypse Now"? Where on earth did I hear or read that?
Reading the last page of this thread, the term "The Thought Police" came to my mind. Where on earth have I heard that? Clockwork Orange? A Beatles song? "March of the Wooden Soldiers"? Cat's Cradle? "Apocalypse Now"? Where on earth did I hear or read that?
The dream police they live inside of my head.
That's what we need on the "sweet dreams" thread. It can get pretty hairy on there, currently.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
^^^ Often, it is simple. If you have pedo thoughts it is wrong. Acting out on those thoughts is just well....... Divulging pedo thoughts must have consequences.
Yeah yeah. Having pedo thoughts is wrong. But you seem to think that there is a way to make thoughts illegal or something.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
^^^ Often, it is simple. If you have pedo thoughts it is wrong. Acting out on those thoughts is just well....... Divulging pedo thoughts must have consequences.
Yeah yeah. Having pedo thoughts is wrong. But you seem to think that there is a way to make thoughts illegal or something.
Calling the police is not accusing someone of doing something illegal. It is a means to settle an ethical dilemma.
^^^ Often, it is simple. If you have pedo thoughts it is wrong. Acting out on those thoughts is just well....... Divulging pedo thoughts must have consequences.
Yeah yeah. Having pedo thoughts is wrong. But you seem to think that there is a way to make thoughts illegal or something.
Calling the police is not accusing someone of doing something illegal. It is a means to settle an ethical dilemma.
Calling the police because someone is having thoughts? I think they already have enough to do without people calling them with shit like that. Unless a child is harmed or at risk of being harmed, there is nothing illegal. That's why people are allowed make and watch movies and write stories about anything they want, including murder and rape and child molestation and torture and drug dealing, etc etc etc. But hey, next time you see some dude do a double-take at some 14 year old's butt in the mall, try calling the cops and see what they say.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Reading the last page of this thread, the term "The Thought Police" came to my mind. Where on earth have I heard that? Clockwork Orange? A Beatles song? "March of the Wooden Soldiers"? Cat's Cradle? "Apocalypse Now"? Where on earth did I hear or read that?
The dream police they live inside of my head.
That's what we need on the "sweet dreams" thread. It can get pretty hairy on there, currently.
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Guy inn my state was setenced today to 4 lifeterms plus 145 years for an old case that stemmed from 1997 to 2003. was charged last year. Not sure what the legal basis was for being able to charge much less convict after so long , but they got him. And his wife.
http://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/OHAG/bulletins/11fd07e?reqfrom=share
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I'm not one to cut a ped a break (for some reason that made me laugh) but hell, trying to cut off your urges at the pass?
Go the fuck for it, with my full support.
If more people started reporting these peoples thoughts less victims would ensue because they would inevitably be monitored better.
Those two in the article now know what the long arm of the law means.
That is just a wrong way to think in every fucking way.
He raped her, killed her, then chopped her up and buried her parts in various spots? I believe it was in Ontario (it was Canada for sure)? I googled the details of the case and disturbingly... many similar cases presented themselves.
I don't know exactly what I'm suggesting... but it watchdogs did monitor on-line behaviour and plucked this shithead from the general public... a little girl would still be alive. I guess I could safely say that.
Zero tolerance for pedophilia. Zero. F**king mutants.
That's why the words 'high risk to reoffend' makes my blood boil.
We've head these words way too much and, in most cases, they were accurate. Exactly what the f**k do we owe shitheads who prey on children?
Realistically, Thirty, what would you suggest someone who has these thoughts and is horrified by them do as an alternative? Commit suicide?
My thinking is mine. My processing of my life is mine. With much forethought, contemplation, and - I think - some wisening-up over the many years since then.
All for punishment. Full punishment, fuck coddling.
Also all for prevention. Many roads one can take for the latter.
Your thinking is wrong on this.
edit- what if every pedo said " it's no one's place to tell me my way of thinking is wrong."?
you are wrong hedo
Thank goodness.
And if you just compared my line of thinking and how I stated it to that of a child molester, that is beyond fucked up.
Done playing your stupida fucking game.
They should be monitored and made publicly aware via courts.
The last few posts, hell, this thread is about pedos.
If you want to late chime then get into the game.
And PJfan? Way to up the asshole-factor with your edit. I know you get some of your kicks at others' expense, but didn't think you'd sink so low.
Should you re-read with clarity come tomorrow, hope you'll get it.
Not me.
So again, I say your thoughts about people having pedo thoughts seeking help before they commit are wrong. They should be reported.
If a person began to entertain the notion that little children were sexy... and they sought help with such deviant thoughts... I'd be in favour of helping them.
Once that line is crossed... I'm sorry... but I'm not in favour of trying to rehabilitate and rolling the dice on an offender when efforts to rehabilitate typically result in recidivism. Our current practices are fraught with weakness- they don't work.
Often, it is simple.
If you have pedo thoughts it is wrong.
Acting out on those thoughts is just well.......
Divulging pedo thoughts must have consequences.
Entertaining those thoughts and accessing child pornography, or worse, is 'crossing the line'.
Many a memory.
Cheers!
It is a means to settle an ethical dilemma.
But hey, next time you see some dude do a double-take at some 14 year old's butt in the mall, try calling the cops and see what they say.