Do You Think Deep Down, Americans Are Concerned That Donald Trump May Actually Win?
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Very valid point.. And I honestlyGodfather. said:
" And we have nincompoop techno-robot-voters holding ballots"whispering hands said:I agree with one and only one piece of his spiel, and that is this: " America is headed for grave grave disaster, financially, politically, socially, and the family values are already GONE! Family is no longer a structured effort, but instead it's whatever suits your personal whims and fantasies..but worst of all, America has forgotten it's roots, in hard work, faith, family, and integrity."
Anything after that is just his ego stroking itself. He is definitely one one of the greatest Narcisists of our time.. However I worry in his getting elected because this country is FASCINATED with famous people.. And we have nincompoop techno-robot-voters holding ballots... It's scary, but I hope for the sake of this country you all are correct in saying this guy will never see the Oval Office other than to visit..
the same ones that voted obama in right ? we have to look at what is going on in our country to understand why Trump is so popular, obama himself set up Trumps lead in the polls creating a mess of this country since he's become president, Trump fit right into an opening that the voters need filled and he's saying what Americans need or want to hear..it's that simple, the people are tired of lies, scandle and burden and a seasoned polition is trainned to lie from the start and make false promices to get into office, maybe Trump is not the man for the job ? but he's not hiding behind political bullshit to sway the voters, he has become popular and if he gets voted in we will find out if he's worth a shit...just like all the rest.
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Believe Obama got voted in cause it a mixture of political correctness, and the whole deception behind his 'I promise CHANGE!!" campaign. But what do I know??0 -
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more like what do we know ? LOL !!!!whispering hands said:
Very valid point.. And I honestlyGodfather. said:
" And we have nincompoop techno-robot-voters holding ballots"whispering hands said:I agree with one and only one piece of his spiel, and that is this: " America is headed for grave grave disaster, financially, politically, socially, and the family values are already GONE! Family is no longer a structured effort, but instead it's whatever suits your personal whims and fantasies..but worst of all, America has forgotten it's roots, in hard work, faith, family, and integrity."
Anything after that is just his ego stroking itself. He is definitely one one of the greatest Narcisists of our time.. However I worry in his getting elected because this country is FASCINATED with famous people.. And we have nincompoop techno-robot-voters holding ballots... It's scary, but I hope for the sake of this country you all are correct in saying this guy will never see the Oval Office other than to visit..
the same ones that voted obama in right ? we have to look at what is going on in our country to understand why Trump is so popular, obama himself set up Trumps lead in the polls creating a mess of this country since he's become president, Trump fit right into an opening that the voters need filled and he's saying what Americans need or want to hear..it's that simple, the people are tired of lies, scandle and burden and a seasoned polition is trainned to lie from the start and make false promices to get into office, maybe Trump is not the man for the job ? but he's not hiding behind political bullshit to sway the voters, he has become popular and if he gets voted in we will find out if he's worth a shit...just like all the rest.
Godfather.
Believe Obama got voted in cause it a mixture of political correctness, and the whole deception behind his 'I promise CHANGE!!" campaign. But what do I know??
Godfather.
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more like what do we know ? LOL !!!!whispering hands said:
Very valid point.. And I honestlyGodfather. said:
" And we have nincompoop techno-robot-voters holding ballots"whispering hands said:I agree with one and only one piece of his spiel, and that is this: " America is headed for grave grave disaster, financially, politically, socially, and the family values are already GONE! Family is no longer a structured effort, but instead it's whatever suits your personal whims and fantasies..but worst of all, America has forgotten it's roots, in hard work, faith, family, and integrity."
Anything after that is just his ego stroking itself. He is definitely one one of the greatest Narcisists of our time.. However I worry in his getting elected because this country is FASCINATED with famous people.. And we have nincompoop techno-robot-voters holding ballots... It's scary, but I hope for the sake of this country you all are correct in saying this guy will never see the Oval Office other than to visit..
the same ones that voted obama in right ? we have to look at what is going on in our country to understand why Trump is so popular, obama himself set up Trumps lead in the polls creating a mess of this country since he's become president, Trump fit right into an opening that the voters need filled and he's saying what Americans need or want to hear..it's that simple, the people are tired of lies, scandle and burden and a seasoned polition is trainned to lie from the start and make false promices to get into office, maybe Trump is not the man for the job ? but he's not hiding behind political bullshit to sway the voters, he has become popular and if he gets voted in we will find out if he's worth a shit...just like all the rest.
Godfather.
Believe Obama got voted in cause it a mixture of political correctness, and the whole deception behind his 'I promise CHANGE!!" campaign. But what do I know??
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I am American - NoObamacare, gay marriage, improved relations with Cuba, diplomacy with Iran. It seems to me President Obama delivered on his promise for change.___________________________________________
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I just can't believe that any politician is still harping about what families should and shouldn't be. It's shocking.whispering hands said:I agree with one and only one piece of his spiel, and that is this: " America is headed for grave grave disaster, financially, politically, socially, and the family values are already GONE! Family is no longer a structured effort, but instead it's whatever suits your personal whims and fantasies..but worst of all, America has forgotten it's roots, in hard work, faith, family, and integrity."
Anything after that is just his ego stroking itself. He is definitely one one of the greatest Narcisists of our time.. However I worry in his getting elected because this country is FASCINATED with famous people.. And we have nincompoop techno-robot-voters holding ballots... It's scary, but I hope for the sake of this country you all are correct in saying this guy will never see the Oval Office other than to visit..With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Trump can't win Texas, Florida or California with almost no latino vote and not a great % of the woman vote. Those 3 states represent 122 electoral college votes which is 45% of what one candidate needs to win. Lose all 3 of those states and it's almost impossible to win the election. Trump will not be President (in fact i believe he will drop out at some point and blame the media).Godfather. said:he's trailing hellary by only 6 points in the CNN polls....and gaining ground.
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you should talk to a few local Cubans and see what they think of that, I have and none of them like it at all.JimmyV said:Obamacare, gay marriage, improved relations with Cuba, diplomacy with Iran. It seems to me President Obama delivered on his promise for change.
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Why not?Godfather. said:
you should talk to a few local Cubans and see what they think of that, I have and none of them like it at all.JimmyV said:Obamacare, gay marriage, improved relations with Cuba, diplomacy with Iran. It seems to me President Obama delivered on his promise for change.
Godfather.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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cool, but he's waking up Americans and that's what America needs right now, people have been lead like sheep to the slaughter for far too long and with each president it just seems to get worsepjhawks said:
Trump can't win Texas, Florida or California with almost no latino vote and not a great % of the woman vote. Those 3 states represent 122 electoral college votes which is 45% of what one candidate needs to win. Lose all 3 of those states and it's almost impossible to win the election. Trump will not be President (in fact i believe he will drop out at some point and blame the media).Godfather. said:he's trailing hellary by only 6 points in the CNN polls....and gaining ground.
Godfather.
so hopefully this will be a wake up call for all the politions to pull thier heads out of thier ass's.
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There are pros and cons to all things. That some are unhappy with the change doesn't contradict my point. Opening Cuba is a HUGE change.Godfather. said:
you should talk to a few local Cubans and see what they think of that, I have and none of them like it at all.JimmyV said:Obamacare, gay marriage, improved relations with Cuba, diplomacy with Iran. It seems to me President Obama delivered on his promise for change.
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So lemme get this straight.... You think that Trump would make things better? What do you think he'd actually do to make things better for Americans?Godfather. said:
cool, but he's waking up Americans and that's what America needs right now, people have been lead like sheep to the slaughter for far too long and with each president it just seems to get worsepjhawks said:
Trump can't win Texas, Florida or California with almost no latino vote and not a great % of the woman vote. Those 3 states represent 122 electoral college votes which is 45% of what one candidate needs to win. Lose all 3 of those states and it's almost impossible to win the election. Trump will not be President (in fact i believe he will drop out at some point and blame the media).Godfather. said:he's trailing hellary by only 6 points in the CNN polls....and gaining ground.
Godfather.
so hopefully this will be a wake up call for all the politions to pull thier heads out of thier ass's.
Godfather.
What exactly are you referring to when you say "people have been lead like sheep to the slaughter"?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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yes it is.JimmyV said:
There are pros and cons to all things. That some are unhappy with the change doesn't contradict my point. Opening Cuba is a HUGE change.Godfather. said:
you should talk to a few local Cubans and see what they think of that, I have and none of them like it at all.JimmyV said:Obamacare, gay marriage, improved relations with Cuba, diplomacy with Iran. It seems to me President Obama delivered on his promise for change.
Godfather.
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Why not?PJ_Soul said:
Because the Cubans that are here, for the most part, hate Castro and everything he stands for. Nothing is changing with regard to how they treat the people there, yet we are pandering to them now. It's not the economic hardships that people try to escape, it's the sociological ones. Just because Americans may be able to legally buy Cuban cigars someday, does not help ease the grip of their dictatorship. So yes, the Cubans dislike the fact that we are warming our relations with no stipulation on having the government there change the way the people are treated.
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NoYou think America is "pandering" to Cuba now?
I understand that people in Cuba may not support their own government, but why would that make them against America resuming relations with them? The Cuban government is still the Cuban government, so I don't see why Cubans would expect the US to come in a change their government. In fact, I can only imagine the outrage if they tried. Shouldn't they remain concerned about the problems of their own government, while still being glad that renewed ties with the US will almost certainly have a positive impact on their economy?With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
He will easily win Texas. This place is absolutely bat shit crazy for Trump right now. It's insane. He may not get many votes in Austin, but even the Hispanics I work with on a daily basis are excited about him. I NEVER bring him up, or any politics really, but they talk him up like crazy. Mainly because they feel he will make legal immigration easier. They talk about family they have that are too afraid to come here illegally, but he's already said his goal is to secure the border and make legal immigration a much easier process. And it should be. So that is what they are excited about. I've never seen such a buzz about a candidate before...ever.pjhawks said:
Trump can't win Texas, Florida or California with almost no latino vote and not a great % of the woman vote. Those 3 states represent 122 electoral college votes which is 45% of what one candidate needs to win. Lose all 3 of those states and it's almost impossible to win the election. Trump will not be President (in fact i believe he will drop out at some point and blame the media).
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Because the Cubans that are here, for the most part, hate Castro and everything he stands for. Nothing is changing with regard to how they treat the people there, yet we are pandering to them now. It's not the economic hardships that people try to escape, it's the sociological ones. Just because Americans may be able to legally buy Cuban cigars someday, does not help ease the grip of their dictatorship. So yes, the Cubans dislike the fact that we are warming our relations with no stipulation on having the government there change the way the people are treated.Shawshank said:
that's the story I get from Cuban people as well.
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because America does it for everybody else (and that never works out) and positive impact on thier economy will probably only mean more wealth for the castro machine.PJ_Soul said:You think America is "pandering" to Cuba now?
I understand that people in Cuba may not support their own government, but why would that make them against America resuming relations with them? The Cuban government is still the Cuban government, so I don't see why Cubans would expect the US to come in a change their government. In fact, I can only imagine the outrage if they tried. Shouldn't they remain concerned about the problems of their own government, while still being glad that renewed ties with the US will almost certainly have a positive impact on their economy?
bottom line....it was a bad idea...a big change but a bad idea.
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I've never seen such a buzz about a candidate before...ever.Shawshank said:
He will easily win Texas. This place is absolutely bat shit crazy for Trump right now. It's insane. He may not get many votes in Austin, but even the Hispanics I work with on a daily basis are excited about him. I NEVER bring him up, or any politics really, but they talk him up like crazy. Mainly because they feel he will make legal immigration easier. They talk about family they have that are too afraid to come here illegally, but he's already said his goal is to secure the border and make legal immigration a much easier process. And it should be. So that is what they are excited about. I've never seen such a buzz about a candidate before...ever.pjhawks said:
Trump can't win Texas, Florida or California with almost no latino vote and not a great % of the woman vote. Those 3 states represent 122 electoral college votes which is 45% of what one candidate needs to win. Lose all 3 of those states and it's almost impossible to win the election. Trump will not be President (in fact i believe he will drop out at some point and blame the media).
that right there tells me he can win, I have never seen such a thing either.
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So if it's a disaster when American does it with others, why would the Cubans want them to do it for Cuba? And even if the import/export wealth doesn't reach people, the increased tourism certainly will, so no matter what, the move is a benefit to Cubans. And even if they can't accept that there is a small benefit, they'd still have to admit that it is a neutral move at worst. So I Plus, Cuba and American strengthening ties will more than likely lead to positive changes to the Cuban government over time, since it is a big step towards getting more in line with the global community, which pretty much always leads to improvements overall. PLUS it should make it easier for Cubans to try and immigrate to and simply travel to the States. So I'm going to go ahead and argue that Cubans or anyone else who are actually against this don't actually know wtf they're talking about.Godfather. said:
because America does it for everybody else (and that never works out) and positive impact on thier economy will probably only mean more wealth for the castro machine.PJ_Soul said:You think America is "pandering" to Cuba now?
I understand that people in Cuba may not support their own government, but why would that make them against America resuming relations with them? The Cuban government is still the Cuban government, so I don't see why Cubans would expect the US to come in a change their government. In fact, I can only imagine the outrage if they tried. Shouldn't they remain concerned about the problems of their own government, while still being glad that renewed ties with the US will almost certainly have a positive impact on their economy?
bottom line....it was a bad idea...a big change but a bad idea.
Godfather.
Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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don't get me wrong, I hope it works out for the people of Cuba.PJ_Soul said:
So if it's a disaster when American does it with others, why would the Cubans want them to do it for Cuba? And even if the import/export wealth doesn't reach people, the increased tourism certainly will, so no matter what, the move is a benefit to Cubans. And even if they can't accept that there is a small benefit, they'd still have to admit that it is a neutral move at worst. So I Plus, Cuba and American strengthening ties will more than likely lead to positive changes to the Cuban government over time, since it is a big step towards getting more in line with the global community, which pretty much always leads to improvements overall. PLUS it should make it easier for Cubans to try and immigrate to and simply travel to the States. So I'm going to go ahead and argue that Cubans or anyone else who are actually against this don't actually know wtf they're talking about.Godfather. said:
because America does it for everybody else (and that never works out) and positive impact on thier economy will probably only mean more wealth for the castro machine.PJ_Soul said:You think America is "pandering" to Cuba now?
I understand that people in Cuba may not support their own government, but why would that make them against America resuming relations with them? The Cuban government is still the Cuban government, so I don't see why Cubans would expect the US to come in a change their government. In fact, I can only imagine the outrage if they tried. Shouldn't they remain concerned about the problems of their own government, while still being glad that renewed ties with the US will almost certainly have a positive impact on their economy?
bottom line....it was a bad idea...a big change but a bad idea.
Godfather.
changing Cuba over time ?....you know that would involve the Russians as well..
and in my opinion if you want to know how Cubans feel about this it's probably best to ask one rather than tell them they don't know what they're talking about, after all they have lived it.
Godfather.
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