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PJfanwillneverleave1 · August 2015

Drowned Out said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Drowned Out said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^^^^
Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?

He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
I am talking about the election win coming his way in Oct.
Two months is nothing to wait.
This campaign race is a smoke and mirrors road trip for everyone.
No progress or damage can be done in a 3month race.
These little side polls and temporary upswings for the opposition are simply that - temporary.

Bullshit. It was past tense. And it was a pretty lame response to begin with.

You sure do show your ire when people point out that you are wrong in thinking that a Majority Consevative government is not going to happen again.

Even MS hateful PJsoul concedes.

PJfanwillneverleave1 · August 2015

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Hard for a majority of Canadians to argue the merit in this policy to be tabled again.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-says-hell-reintroduce-life-means-life/ar-BBlQx6f?ocid=mailsignoutmd

Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?

I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that.
I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
Curious.....
What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
All of these things affect my personal quality of life.
How?
Every single point at the very least negatively affects my state of mind and how I perceive my world around me, when any of my fellow citizens are negatively affected I am also negatively affected, and how I feel about my country is negatively affected. At most it very directly affects me in the obvious ways (salary, benefits, taxes, the air I breath, the food I eat, the information that is available to me, my security, my freedom, how I die, etc etc etc). Do you not see how all of these issues would affect people? If not, FYI, some people take what the government of their country does personally. I'm one of them. You should be too.

I still can't get past the fact that this majority government is so unlike you that it is making you sick.

Drowned Out · August 2015

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Drowned Out said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Drowned Out said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^^^^
Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?

He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
I am talking about the election win coming his way in Oct.
Two months is nothing to wait.
This campaign race is a smoke and mirrors road trip for everyone.
No progress or damage can be done in a 3month race.
These little side polls and temporary upswings for the opposition are simply that - temporary.

Bullshit. It was past tense. And it was a pretty lame response to begin with.
You sure do show your ire when people point out that you are wrong in thinking that a Majority Consevative government is not going to happen again.

Even MS hateful PJsoul concedes.

We'll see. Funny that you think you're calling me out as wrong for a future prediction, while backpedaling on a mistake that you JUST made. Just own it man. It happens.
btw - I swear a lot...i read recently that this means I'm hotter, more confident, and less stressed than those who don't

. People seem to assume that I'm upset when I swear. Just calling as I see it....and your backpedal was complete and utter bullshit.

PJfanwillneverleave1 · August 2015

Drowned Out said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Drowned Out said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^^^^
Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?

He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
I am talking about the election win coming his way in Oct.
Two months is nothing to wait.
This campaign race is a smoke and mirrors road trip for everyone.
No progress or damage can be done in a 3month race.
These little side polls and temporary upswings for the opposition are simply that - temporary.

And it was a pretty lame response to begin with.

This reads like a Donald Trump tweet.

Drowned Out · August 2015

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Drowned Out said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Drowned Out said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^^^^
Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?

He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
I am talking about the election win coming his way in Oct.
Two months is nothing to wait.
This campaign race is a smoke and mirrors road trip for everyone.
No progress or damage can be done in a 3month race.
These little side polls and temporary upswings for the opposition are simply that - temporary.

And it was a pretty lame response to begin with.
This reads like a Donald Trump tweet.

Well explain to me wtf you meant by saying that he'd been put thru the wringer? Were you excusing the list the tyee put together? Were you talking about checks and balances?
Don't pout about my prose when you replied with a cliche and didn't bother to elaborate.....like I said....lame.

PJ_Soul · August 2015

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Hard for a majority of Canadians to argue the merit in this policy to be tabled again.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-says-hell-reintroduce-life-means-life/ar-BBlQx6f?ocid=mailsignoutmd

Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?

I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that.
I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
Curious.....
What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
All of these things affect my personal quality of life.
How?
Every single point at the very least negatively affects my state of mind and how I perceive my world around me, when any of my fellow citizens are negatively affected I am also negatively affected, and how I feel about my country is negatively affected. At most it very directly affects me in the obvious ways (salary, benefits, taxes, the air I breath, the food I eat, the information that is available to me, my security, my freedom, how I die, etc etc etc). Do you not see how all of these issues would affect people? If not, FYI, some people take what the government of their country does personally. I'm one of them. You should be too.
I still can't get past the fact that this majority government is so unlike you that it is making you sick.

Why not? Haven't you ever met someone who is disgusted by the Harper government before? There are millions of us. I don't even understand you right now TBH. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, highlighting that I hate this government as though it's an opinion that's way out there. What are you trying to prove? It feels kind of like bullshit somehow.

PJfanwillneverleave1 · August 2015

It feels like a such an uphill batlle when I question people who are against the majority. Does that even make sense to you?
Being put through the wringer - they have been put through it for 4yrs and have come out virtually unscathed as it is not hard to see that they will win another majority. They have not lost that much support. The opposition is only loud right now because it is election time.
Check and balances - I will say it again, the public has the power to change gov't. They haven't done it yet and they won't this election.
In politics if you don't talk in the future prose you are already behind.

I could be wrong on the exact time when CBC or CTV will declare a winner on election night but when they do I will post here.
It will be interesting.

PJfanwillneverleave1 · August 2015

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Hard for a majority of Canadians to argue the merit in this policy to be tabled again.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-says-hell-reintroduce-life-means-life/ar-BBlQx6f?ocid=mailsignoutmd

Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?

I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that.
I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
Curious.....
What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
All of these things affect my personal quality of life.
How?
Every single point at the very least negatively affects my state of mind and how I perceive my world around me, when any of my fellow citizens are negatively affected I am also negatively affected, and how I feel about my country is negatively affected. At most it very directly affects me in the obvious ways (salary, benefits, taxes, the air I breath, the food I eat, the information that is available to me, my security, my freedom, how I die, etc etc etc). Do you not see how all of these issues would affect people? If not, FYI, some people take what the government of their country does personally. I'm one of them. You should be too.
I still can't get past the fact that this majority government is so unlike you that it is making you sick.
Why not? Haven't you ever met someone who is disgusted by the Harper government before? There are millions of us. I don't even understand you right now TBH. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, highlighting that I hate this government as though it's an opinion that's way out there. What are you trying to prove? It feels kind of like bullshit somehow.

Millions?
What feels like bullshit?
You hate the Harper govt I get it. So with the other choices available and if one of the other parties win you will miraculously feel better and all your problems will vanish?

Drowned Out · August 2015

If it makes you feel good to say atodaso, go for it. You're not exactly going out on a limb with your bold predictions.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It feels like a such an uphill batlle when I question people who are against the majority. Does that even make sense to you?
Being put through the wringer - they have been put through it for 4yrs and have come out virtually unscathed as it is not hard to see that they will win another majority. They have not lost that much support. The opposition is only loud right now because it is election time.
Check and balances - I will say it again, the public has the power to change gov't. They haven't done it yet and they won't this election.
In politics if you don't talk in the future prose you are already behind.

I could be wrong on the exact time when CBC or CTV will declare a winner on election night but when they do I will post here.
It will be interesting.

might want to revisit what I was talking about, then look up the word prose.
YOU spoke in the past tense about Harper's sustained, multiple majority governments. So I guess you are behind.

PJ_Soul · August 2015

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It feels like a such an uphill batlle when I question people who are against the majority. Does that even make sense to you?
Being put through the wringer - they have been put through it for 4yrs and have come out virtually unscathed as it is not hard to see that they will win another majority. They have not lost that much support. The opposition is only loud right now because it is election time.
Check and balances - I will say it again, the public has the power to change gov't. They haven't done it yet and they won't this election.
In politics if you don't talk in the future prose you are already behind.

I could be wrong on the exact time when CBC or CTV will declare a winner on election night but when they do I will post here.
It will be interesting.

No, I have no idea what you're talking about, actually. You asked me a question, and I gave you an incredibly thorough and clear and logical answer, so I don't know what you found taxing about that.
And I suppose I do know why you keep saying "against the majority".... you must quoting some Conservative propaganda?? FYI, the Conservatives hold a "majority" government with less than 40% of Canadians voting for them. So it's you who is against the majority I guess, not me.

But I say that in jest, because, despite what you appear to think, being against the majority is usually a positive, not a negative, lol.

At any rate, I already said that I don't think anyone else can win as long as the left is split (I mean, miracles do happen, but chances are...), and I don't think many others would disagree with me, so you're preaching to the choir a bit. Of course I HOPE the NDP or the Libs win, but I am realistic about it. There are a lot of idiots out there voting Conservative.

PJfanwillneverleave1 · August 2015

Drowned Out said:

If it makes you feel good to say atodaso, go for it. You're not exactly going out on a limb with your bold predictions.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It feels like a such an uphill batlle when I question people who are against the majority. Does that even make sense to you?
Being put through the wringer - they have been put through it for 4yrs and have come out virtually unscathed as it is not hard to see that they will win another majority. They have not lost that much support. The opposition is only loud right now because it is election time.
Check and balances - I will say it again, the public has the power to change gov't. They haven't done it yet and they won't this election.
In politics if you don't talk in the future prose you are already behind.

I could be wrong on the exact time when CBC or CTV will declare a winner on election night but when they do I will post here.
It will be interesting.
might want to revisit what I was talking about, then look up the word prose.
YOU spoke in the past tense about Harper's sustained, multiple majority governments. So I guess you are behind.

You are right. I typed in the past tense while making my pointed.
I was too lazy to remember what the exacting definition of prose was.
and for that I apologize humbly and admit defeated (or is it defeat?), can't remember

As for coming back on here for atodasos I would not.
I would truly want to hear the opinions of the liberals and ndpers after election night is all.

dignin · August 2015

I predict a minority government. That's what almost every poll so far predicts. The particulars of who will form that government are far from clear. Anyone saying they know more than that is talking out of their ass, it's far to early to tell.

PJfanwillneverleave1 · August 2015

dignin said:
I predict a minority government. That's what almost every poll so far predicts. The particulars of who will form that government are far from clear. Anyone saying they know more than that is talking out of their ass, it's far to early to tell.

You base your thoughts from meaningless early polls?
Even you admit that who will form the next govt are far from clear.
So how are you basing your prediction of a minority govt?, surely not from a poll you read about in the news....

dignin · August 2015

Rough day for the guy who's going to get another majority

http://globalnews.ca/news/2171339/reporters-heckled-by-conservative-supporters-for-questions-about-duffy/?hootPostID=2037e242fe557b59037b9302a42a86fa

1ThoughtKnown · August 2015

Me labelling myself a "libertarian" was sarcastic, perhaps that did not come across in the post.
One thing those,questionnaire results did tell me is what I always thought, I have no political,ideology that aligns with any one party. I am neither "right" nor "left" nor in the middle.

This is why I don't tell people how I vote. It does not define who I am, it is just an OPINION on who I think will best represent me and not waste all my tax dollars.

All of you anti-Harper people are not wrong, you are entitled to your opinion. That is the beauty of DEMOCRACY. My opinion may differ, it may not. But zi will base my decision on FACTS, not rhetoric from a PJ Forum like "he is a liar". He is a politician, they are all liars lol

dignin · August 2015

It's always the attempted cover-up that gets them. Are we really supposed to believe that Novak didn't look at an email sent to him by his boss? And also that he dropped out of a conference call just when the check was discussed? How convenient. How stupid do they think we are? This whole thing stinks.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mike-duffy-trial-nigel-wright-testimony-day-5-1.3194569

Wright also testified that Novak did not take part in the conference call in March 2013 in which he discussed personally paying back Duffy's controversial expenses.

"Ray wasn't on the call. He may have dropped into the office for part of it. He was not on the call," Wright said.

"I think I wanted him on the call but he didn't participate," Wright said.

One email presented in court, dated March 22, 2013, said Novak would be part of a conference call with Wright, Duffy's then-lawyer Janice Payne, and Perrin.

Wright told court on Tuesday Novak had "popped in and out."

In another email, on March 23, Wright wrote to Novak and Perrin saying, "I will send my cheque on Monday."

A Conservative spokesman has said Novak was on the first part of that conference call, but didn't hear discussion of Wright's cheque. He also said that Novak never opened the email from Wright in which Wright says he will send the cheque.

But Perrin said, according to the transcript read out in court, that he believed Novak was in the room at the time of that conference call.

"My testimony is that he was in the meeting and you have a follow-up email to that meeting to Ray Novak where Nigel Wright says, 'I will send my cheque on Monday," Perrin said in the statement.

"The people that I, from my own personal knowledge, knew about this was obviously Nigel Wright, myself, Ray Novak and David van Hemmen, Nigel's assistant." Perrin is expected to testify at a later date.

dignin · August 2015

1ThoughtKnown said:
Me labelling myself a "libertarian" was sarcastic, perhaps that did not come across in the post.
One thing those,questionnaire results did tell me is what I always thought, I have no political,ideology that aligns with any one party. I am neither "right" nor "left" nor in the middle.

This is why I don't tell people how I vote. It does not define who I am, it is just an OPINION on who I think will best represent me and not waste all my tax dollars.

All of you anti-Harper people are not wrong, you are entitled to your opinion. That is the beauty of DEMOCRACY. My opinion may differ, it may not. But zi will base my decision on FACTS, not rhetoric from a PJ Forum like "he is a liar". He is a politician, they are all liars lol

It's our job to throw them out when they are caught lying.

PJ_Soul · August 2015

1ThoughtKnown said:
Me labelling myself a "libertarian" was sarcastic, perhaps that did not come across in the post.
One thing those,questionnaire results did tell me is what I always thought, I have no political,ideology that aligns with any one party. I am neither "right" nor "left" nor in the middle.

This is why I don't tell people how I vote. It does not define who I am, it is just an OPINION on who I think will best represent me and not waste all my tax dollars.

All of you anti-Harper people are not wrong, you are entitled to your opinion. That is the beauty of DEMOCRACY. My opinion may differ, it may not. But zi will base my decision on FACTS, not rhetoric from a PJ Forum like "he is a liar". He is a politician, they are all liars lol

True, but some are bigger liars than others.
At any rate, him being a liar is pretty far down on the list of what's wrong with him, lol.

dignin · August 2015

Trying to figure out where the Conservatives have a clear path to a majority.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-grenier-polltracker-aug19-1.3195182

The polls go up, the polls go down. What has remained constant is the close contest between all three parties, with the New Democrats leading most of the time, the Conservatives usually second, and the Liberals in third. But the polls also suggest that some potentially more enduring trends are unfolding at the regional level.

The latest poll added to the CBC Poll Tracker, an Abacus Data survey published Tuesday and placing the NDP in the lead nationally with 35 per cent, followed by the Conservatives at 29 per cent and the Liberals at 26 per cent, has widened the advantage the New Democrats have over the other parties.

dignin · August 2015

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