Harper at least promises not to raise taxes. Turdo will run deficits New Disaster Party will just do whatever with the economy and see what sticks The Green Party will propose we recycle all money in order to use it twice.
So to recap everything... As I take a break from here again as I can only handle so much of the uber left wing rhetoric and silly posts of other people views and links to news stories from the watered down media we already read:
1) I've never once said who I am going to vote for 2) you are all convinced I am voting for Harper 3) some think I am hypocrite because I learned from my mistakes (interestingly, I went to the Lethbridge Food Bank four times as a student and I send them $100 every year, I don't forget) 4) if anyone doesn't agree with people who think Harper is pure evil that person is wrong 5) it appears people who lean far to the left are extremely closed minded. To the point of a lack of respect of any view which isn't consistent of their own 6) not one of you know me, but you have many assumptions.. Good for you 7) the internet isn't real and all of you are wasting your time arguing here while doing NOTHING 8) I am fine with the way things are and I don't want to pay more taxes.
No matter who wins and takes hold of the government, you are going to complain. Then you are going to bitch and moan how the corporations run the world. All the while doing nothing because you say stupid shit on Twitter or Facebook, or because you dropped acid and freaked out at age 19. Or it's just because you like to complain. I've said it before and I'll say it again, running a country is no easy job, many have tried and so few have left office revered (remember when they considered renaming Canada's largest mountain after PET? ) So carry on with your left wing propaganda, I will lurk in the shadows laughing. Most of all though, get out there and vote on the 19th, even if you spoil your ballot, because above everything else I believe in democracy.
Cheers! Oh yeah and 27 days till I see PJ in Santiago. I'm so blessed... What a great country we live in.
I've always found it quite interesting when I see someone comes on the internet to argue and then make fun of people who come on the internet to argue?
and makes jokes about saying "stupid shit" because they did drugs at a young age, something they have previously admitted to.
and pigeon holes people into one ideology and way of thinking, with little to no evidence of that, all the while doing the same themselves.
I think someone lives under a bridge.
Not going to respond to everything you posted, because it was all laid to rest and you picked up the ball and reiterated the same waste of time arguments. But I live under a bridge yes. Downtown. I drew some blood. This city she loves me
I am not sure why you continue to attack me personally, but I'm generally surprised by your lack of understanding that a young man makes mistakes and your general lack of a sense of humour.
“You do know who I’m not voting for,” he added. “That’s for sure.”
What a snake. No wonder he was in jail for subversion. He is doing it again.
Is there any particular reason that your only rebuttal to any other voter's preference other than an obviously corrupt conservative party is to start calling everyone childish names and hurling insults. Can you actually endorse your political choices in an educated and eloquent manner?
How can you possibly get what you just said out of what I just posted? Trudeau did not get him out, neither did hotair. I am not saying harper did it himself but all factions of the govt had to work together to secure his release. In turn he repays the current govt with a slap to the face.
Choosing who to vote for or not to vote for is not supposed to be something that can be 'bought', whatever the currency may have been. It is his basic right as a Canadian to choose, without being chastised for it. Also thank you for making my point by not being able to refrain from calling one of the candidates names in your rebuttal. You may not like a candidate or a party leader but when you stoop to calling them names it negates the validity of your statement.
Ok, repay not in the literal sense. But there is diplomatic processes that were undertaken to free this man. In turn diplomacy should've been shown in the press. Any validity he has going forward is gone. He has dual citizenship and cried Canadian when in trouble now he cries that he is a poor Canadian mistreated by the govt. Journalist or not you can't have your cake......
“You do know who I’m not voting for,” he added. “That’s for sure.”
What a snake. No wonder he was in jail for subversion. He is doing it again.
Is there any particular reason that your only rebuttal to any other voter's preference other than an obviously corrupt conservative party is to start calling everyone childish names and hurling insults. Can you actually endorse your political choices in an educated and eloquent manner?
Insults is not partisan here. Have a look at some previous posts. A lot of venom spitting socialists on here.
“You do know who I’m not voting for,” he added. “That’s for sure.”
What a snake. No wonder he was in jail for subversion. He is doing it again.
Is there any particular reason that your only rebuttal to any other voter's preference other than an obviously corrupt conservative party is to start calling everyone childish names and hurling insults. Can you actually endorse your political choices in an educated and eloquent manner?
Insults is not partisan here. Have a look at some previous posts. A lot of venom spitting socialists on here.
I am not disagreeing with you. This is not a one party over another discussion it is a portrayal of ideals discussion. I may not agree with your view point but you have succinctly laid out why your view points are what they are. You may be calling your fellow voters names but I did not see that with regards to the parties. If I have missed that please excuse the error.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
“You do know who I’m not voting for,” he added. “That’s for sure.”
What a snake. No wonder he was in jail for subversion. He is doing it again.
Is there any particular reason that your only rebuttal to any other voter's preference other than an obviously corrupt conservative party is to start calling everyone childish names and hurling insults. Can you actually endorse your political choices in an educated and eloquent manner?
Insults is not partisan here. Have a look at some previous posts. A lot of venom spitting socialists on here.
I am not disagreeing with you. This is not a one party over another discussion it is a portrayal of ideals discussion. I may not agree with your view point but you have succinctly laid out why your view points are what they are. You may be calling your fellow voters names but I did not see that with regards to the parties. If I have missed that please excuse the error.
Isn't calling harper evil also calling his fellow voters such?
“You do know who I’m not voting for,” he added. “That’s for sure.”
What a snake. No wonder he was in jail for subversion. He is doing it again.
Is there any particular reason that your only rebuttal to any other voter's preference other than an obviously corrupt conservative party is to start calling everyone childish names and hurling insults. Can you actually endorse your political choices in an educated and eloquent manner?
How can you possibly get what you just said out of what I just posted? Trudeau did not get him out, neither did hotair. I am not saying harper did it himself but all factions of the govt had to work together to secure his release. In turn he repays the current govt with a slap to the face.
Choosing who to vote for or not to vote for is not supposed to be something that can be 'bought', whatever the currency may have been. It is his basic right as a Canadian to choose, without being chastised for it. Also thank you for making my point by not being able to refrain from calling one of the candidates names in your rebuttal. You may not like a candidate or a party leader but when you stoop to calling them names it negates the validity of your statement.
Ok, repay not in the literal sense. But there is diplomatic processes that were undertaken to free this man. In turn diplomacy should've been shown in the press. Any validity he has going forward is gone. He has dual citizenship and cried Canadian when in trouble now he cries that he is a poor Canadian mistreated by the govt. Journalist or not you can't have your cake......
That is a valid point of view, I do not agree but at least your argument has some merit now. I find neither journalists or politicians can be relied on to not have their cake....
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Yes, some intelligent debate would have been enlightening. Unfortunately I was dragged into the mudslinging because I admitted to making a mistake as a teenager. (Choosing the wrong career path, no one else has ever done that) How that excuses able bodied 25 year olds collecting welfare is beyond me.
But, that is politics. Instead of focussing on the issues it becomes personal attacks. Thank you for participation in Politics 101
Yes, some intelligent debate would have been enlightening. Unfortunately I was dragged into the mudslinging because I admitted to making a mistake as a teenager. (Choosing the wrong career path, no one else has ever done that) How that excuses able bodied 25 year olds collecting welfare is beyond me.
But, that is politics. Instead of focussing on the issues it becomes personal attacks. Thank you for participation in Politics 101
Okay. Well... after we declared a truce... I asked you to chew on the following:
Harper's fiscal management is a tale of reversal and failure, not triumph. Department of Finance Fiscal Reference Tables reveal that in the years before Harper became prime minister, there were nine consecutive years of budgetary surpluses, from 1997 to 2007. In eight of those years, Ottawa amassed a surplus of over $79 billion. Yet In Harper's first eight years as prime minister, he managed to produce a deficit of almost $127 billion.
How difficult can it be to balance the books when cuts and closures rule the day and program spending is estimated to have fallen by some $4 billion last year alone? The Harper government has cut almost 26,000 public service jobs in the last three years and they have dropped or axed many important programs and services.
He's not done yet: Canada Post, despite reporting large profits, is moving to community mail boxes eliminating a massive number of working class people. The auto industry is getting beat down. And the list goes on.
Instead of demanding corporations pay their fair share of taxes, he shrinks our workforce. Say nothing of compromising our national values as he strokes international interests... he's secretive and he's scandalous.
He can't run his campaign on his body of work because its been poor: instead he resorts to the oldest method- attacking and discrediting his opponents to strike fear in the 'drooling fools'. This is where my original comment was borne from: he's not worth a vote for most... and if someone is voting for him fearing that 'the other guy's not ready yet'... they've bought the tactic.
After such a lengthy term... he should be able to present his work and not even acknowledge his opposition. He can't though. It's simply not impressive.
Yes, some intelligent debate would have been enlightening. Unfortunately I was dragged into the mudslinging because I admitted to making a mistake as a teenager. (Choosing the wrong career path, no one else has ever done that) How that excuses able bodied 25 year olds collecting welfare is beyond me.
But, that is politics. Instead of focussing on the issues it becomes personal attacks. Thank you for participation in Politics 101
Okay. Well... after we declared a truce... I asked you to chew on the following:
Harper's fiscal management is a tale of reversal and failure, not triumph. Department of Finance Fiscal Reference Tables reveal that in the years before Harper became prime minister, there were nine consecutive years of budgetary surpluses, from 1997 to 2007. In eight of those years, Ottawa amassed a surplus of over $79 billion. Yet In Harper's first eight years as prime minister, he managed to produce a deficit of almost $127 billion.
How difficult can it be to balance the books when cuts and closures rule the day and program spending is estimated to have fallen by some $4 billion last year alone? The Harper government has cut almost 26,000 public service jobs in the last three years and they have dropped or axed many important programs and services.
He's not done yet: Canada Post, despite reporting large profits, is moving to community mail boxes eliminating a massive number of working class people. The auto industry is getting beat down. And the list goes on.
Instead of demanding corporations pay their fair share of taxes, he shrinks our workforce. Say nothing of compromising our national values as he strokes international interests... he's secretive and he's scandalous.
He can't run his campaign on his body of work because its been poor: instead he resorts to the oldest method- attacking and discrediting his opponents to strike fear in the 'drooling fools'. This is where my original comment was borne from: he's not worth a vote for most... and if someone is voting for him fearing that 'the other guy's not ready yet'... they've bought the tactic.
After such a lengthy term... he should be able to present his work and not even acknowledge his opposition. He can't though. It's simply not impressive.
Have you chewed on this? Do you care to comment?
It's not about what he has done. It's about moving forward and making change. With four more years he will be the best bleeding heart you have ever seen.
^^^ The best indicator of future performance of a "global representative" can only be seen by what is thrown at them. World events can not be altered by one man.(person)
Yes, some intelligent debate would have been enlightening. Unfortunately I was dragged into the mudslinging because I admitted to making a mistake as a teenager. (Choosing the wrong career path, no one else has ever done that) How that excuses able bodied 25 year olds collecting welfare is beyond me.
But, that is politics. Instead of focussing on the issues it becomes personal attacks. Thank you for participation in Politics 101
Okay. Well... after we declared a truce... I asked you to chew on the following:
Harper's fiscal management is a tale of reversal and failure, not triumph. Department of Finance Fiscal Reference Tables reveal that in the years before Harper became prime minister, there were nine consecutive years of budgetary surpluses, from 1997 to 2007. In eight of those years, Ottawa amassed a surplus of over $79 billion. Yet In Harper's first eight years as prime minister, he managed to produce a deficit of almost $127 billion.
How difficult can it be to balance the books when cuts and closures rule the day and program spending is estimated to have fallen by some $4 billion last year alone? The Harper government has cut almost 26,000 public service jobs in the last three years and they have dropped or axed many important programs and services.
He's not done yet: Canada Post, despite reporting large profits, is moving to community mail boxes eliminating a massive number of working class people. The auto industry is getting beat down. And the list goes on.
Instead of demanding corporations pay their fair share of taxes, he shrinks our workforce. Say nothing of compromising our national values as he strokes international interests... he's secretive and he's scandalous.
He can't run his campaign on his body of work because its been poor: instead he resorts to the oldest method- attacking and discrediting his opponents to strike fear in the 'drooling fools'. This is where my original comment was borne from: he's not worth a vote for most... and if someone is voting for him fearing that 'the other guy's not ready yet'... they've bought the tactic.
After such a lengthy term... he should be able to present his work and not even acknowledge his opposition. He can't though. It's simply not impressive.
Have you chewed on this? Do you care to comment?
It's not about what he has done. It's about moving forward and making change. With four more years he will be the best bleeding heart you have ever seen.
Actually what he has done can be referred to as a track record of behaviour. Said behaviour and the subsequent choices have not been positive ones for Canada. Moving forward I would not like to see Canada repeat the mistakes of the past. The best way to achieve this is to alter our course, ie. change our leader and leading party.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
^^^ The best indicator of future performance of a "global representative" can only be seen by what is thrown at them. World events can not be altered by one man.(person)
Well, I have a low opinion of most Crown Corporations, particularly the CBC (cannot watch all the Justin Trudeau coverage, could their bias be any more obvious?) and Canada Post. Mostly it has to do with fat cat CUPE employees who make it seem like a personal affront to them when you make them do something. Let them slide into the public sector and see how the real world works combined with wages that better fit your skill set (yes, they are overpaid).
So if you are talking economics, Harper's Conservstives went through a recession. You do remember 2008 right? Compare how much debt Canada went into compared with the other G7 countries (Especially the US). The years before that the economy was full steam ahead, driven by the engine propelling it, oil. We got through those lean years relatively unscathed. Minimal stimulus was required and we are still growing. Growing at a sustainable level so inflation does not become an issue.
I have issues with Harper's Conservstives, his position on Crown Corporations and his stewardship of the economy are not among them.
^^^ The best indicator of future performance of a "global representative" can only be seen by what is thrown at them. World events can not be altered by one man.(person)
Can I interest you in the works of Hiltler? No I am not calling our current leader Hitler, I am merely refuting your statement that one man cannot alter world events. It has been proven time and time again in the annals of history that this can and has happened. As for being a global representative, under his term the worlds view of Canada has declined. This would seem to indicated that both nationally and internationally he has failed.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
^^^ The best indicator of future performance of a "global representative" can only be seen by what is thrown at them. World events can not be altered by one man.(person)
Yes, he would like him gone as Prime Minister. A valid statement as I too want him gone. Nobody wants him dead, just no longer in that job. Not a far reaching statement for an opponent to say.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
^^^ The best indicator of future performance of a "global representative" can only be seen by what is thrown at them. World events can not be altered by one man.(person)
Can I interest you in the works of Hiltler? No I am not calling our current leader Hitler, I am merely refuting your statement that one man cannot alter world events. It has been proven time and time again in the annals of history that this can and has happened. As for being a global representative, under his term the worlds view of Canada has declined. This would seem to indicated that both nationally and internationally he has failed.
So mulcair is going to change world events? Trudeau? May? Don't think so. Beliefs alter world events - the leader is just the voice of many.
For the record I think that the partys have no world clout.
^^^ The best indicator of future performance of a "global representative" can only be seen by what is thrown at them. World events can not be altered by one man.(person)
Can I interest you in the works of Hiltler? No I am not calling our current leader Hitler, I am merely refuting your statement that one man cannot alter world events. It has been proven time and time again in the annals of history that this can and has happened. As for being a global representative, under his term the worlds view of Canada has declined. This would seem to indicated that both nationally and internationally he has failed.
So mulcair is going to change world events? Trudeau? May? Don't think so. Beliefs alter world events - the leader is just the voice of many.
For the record I think that the partys have no world clout.
That is not what I said, I merely refuted your statement that one person cannot change world events. To then turn around and say that another person has the potential to change world events in a sarcastic manner is very mundane. There is no quick answer and there is no all encompassing solution in play. What I did say is that under his term Canada has suffered nationally and internationally in terms of policies, laws and just plain respect.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Well, I have a low opinion of most Crown Corporations, particularly the CBC (cannot watch all the Justin Trudeau coverage, could their bias be any more obvious?) and Canada Post. Mostly it has to do with fat cat CUPE employees who make it seem like a personal affront to them when you make them do something. Let them slide into the public sector and see how the real world works combined with wages that better fit your skill set (yes, they are overpaid).
So if you are talking economics, Harper's Conservstives went through a recession. You do remember 2008 right? Compare how much debt Canada went into compared with the other G7 countries (Especially the US). The years before that the economy was full steam ahead, driven by the engine propelling it, oil. We got through those lean years relatively unscathed. Minimal stimulus was required and we are still growing. Growing at a sustainable level so inflation does not become an issue.
I have issues with Harper's Conservstives, his position on Crown Corporations and his stewardship of the economy are not among them.
The blow of the recession was lessened in spite of Harper, not because of him. He was against banking regulations, the same banking regulations that saved our ass.
Myth 1: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries because of Harper’s leadership. Facts: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries, yes, but did so in spite of Harper as much or more than because of him. Experts mostly agree that Canada has fared well for two reasons: (i) our banks had regulations preventing them from engaging in many of the risky lending practices that brought down the big U.S. banks (Harper himself has said this); (ii) we, like most other developed countries, used fiscal stimulus to cushion the fall in the immediate aftermath of the banking crisis, and we bailed out some of our big manufacturers (e.g. General Motors and Chrysler).
Canada’s banking regulations pre-dated Harper by decades. In fact, prior to the financial crisis, Harper was a proponent of deregulation. In 2006 for example, he paved the way for the introduction of the risky 40-year, zero-down mortgages that helped bring down the U.S. banking system – insured by Canadian taxpayers. Some have argued that Canada would have suffered much worse in the financial crisis had it happened a few years later. In fact, we may not even be out of the woods yet. Canada’s housing market is considered to be dangerously (~35%) over-valued, and the drop in oil prices is threatening to burst the bubble. In opposition and at the National Citizens Coalition, Harper was similarly a proponent of U.S.-style banking deregulation, and was a critic of Chrétien’s decision to block large bank mergers in the late ’90s – a decision which the IMF recently argued was partly responsible for how well Canada was able to weather the crash.
^^^ The best indicator of future performance of a "global representative" can only be seen by what is thrown at them. World events can not be altered by one man.(person)
Can I interest you in the works of Hiltler? No I am not calling our current leader Hitler, I am merely refuting your statement that one man cannot alter world events. It has been proven time and time again in the annals of history that this can and has happened. As for being a global representative, under his term the worlds view of Canada has declined. This would seem to indicated that both nationally and internationally he has failed.
So mulcair is going to change world events? Trudeau? May? Don't think so. Beliefs alter world events - the leader is just the voice of many.
For the record I think that the partys have no world clout.
That is not what I said, I merely refuted your statement that one person cannot change world events. To then turn around and say that another person has the potential to change world events in a sarcastic manner is very mundane. There is no quick answer and there is no all encompassing solution in play. What I did say is that under his term Canada has suffered nationally and internationally in terms of policies, laws and just plain respect.
Canada has suffered yes. But the alternate leaders are not very convincing on a global scale.
Wasn't being sarcastic. When it comes to politics I speak the truth.
^^^ The best indicator of future performance of a "global representative" can only be seen by what is thrown at them. World events can not be altered by one man.(person)
Can I interest you in the works of Hiltler? No I am not calling our current leader Hitler, I am merely refuting your statement that one man cannot alter world events. It has been proven time and time again in the annals of history that this can and has happened. As for being a global representative, under his term the worlds view of Canada has declined. This would seem to indicated that both nationally and internationally he has failed.
So mulcair is going to change world events? Trudeau? May? Don't think so. Beliefs alter world events - the leader is just the voice of many.
For the record I think that the partys have no world clout.
That is not what I said, I merely refuted your statement that one person cannot change world events. To then turn around and say that another person has the potential to change world events in a sarcastic manner is very mundane. There is no quick answer and there is no all encompassing solution in play. What I did say is that under his term Canada has suffered nationally and internationally in terms of policies, laws and just plain respect.
Canada has suffered yes. But the alternate leaders are not very convincing on a global scale.
Wasn't being sarcastic. When it comes to politics I speak the truth.
Currently Canada needs to take care of her own house before worrying what the neighbours are doing. We will need to get there eventually but there has been so much damage done to Canada internally that that is where we must focus first. One of those things is pulling out of the TPP which is a horrible move for Canada and in fact for all countries, it is a conglomerate company boon which none of us will ever see any benefit from. Harper has never been well received on a global scale but you seem to be okay with that from him. Why discriminate against other leaders on the same point?
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Well, I have a low opinion of most Crown Corporations, particularly the CBC (cannot watch all the Justin Trudeau coverage, could their bias be any more obvious?) and Canada Post. Mostly it has to do with fat cat CUPE employees who make it seem like a personal affront to them when you make them do something. Let them slide into the public sector and see how the real world works combined with wages that better fit your skill set (yes, they are overpaid).
So if you are talking economics, Harper's Conservstives went through a recession. You do remember 2008 right? Compare how much debt Canada went into compared with the other G7 countries (Especially the US). The years before that the economy was full steam ahead, driven by the engine propelling it, oil. We got through those lean years relatively unscathed. Minimal stimulus was required and we are still growing. Growing at a sustainable level so inflation does not become an issue.
I have issues with Harper's Conservstives, his position on Crown Corporations and his stewardship of the economy are not among them.
The blow of the recession was lessened in spite of Harper, not because of him. He was against banking regulations, the same banking regulations that saved our ass.
Myth 1: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries because of Harper’s leadership. Facts: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries, yes, but did so in spite of Harper as much or more than because of him. Experts mostly agree that Canada has fared well for two reasons: (i) our banks had regulations preventing them from engaging in many of the risky lending practices that brought down the big U.S. banks (Harper himself has said this); (ii) we, like most other developed countries, used fiscal stimulus to cushion the fall in the immediate aftermath of the banking crisis, and we bailed out some of our big manufacturers (e.g. General Motors and Chrysler).
Canada’s banking regulations pre-dated Harper by decades. In fact, prior to the financial crisis, Harper was a proponent of deregulation. In 2006 for example, he paved the way for the introduction of the risky 40-year, zero-down mortgages that helped bring down the U.S. banking system – insured by Canadian taxpayers. Some have argued that Canada would have suffered much worse in the financial crisis had it happened a few years later. In fact, we may not even be out of the woods yet. Canada’s housing market is considered to be dangerously (~35%) over-valued, and the drop in oil prices is threatening to burst the bubble. In opposition and at the National Citizens Coalition, Harper was similarly a proponent of U.S.-style banking deregulation, and was a critic of Chrétien’s decision to block large bank mergers in the late ’90s – a decision which the IMF recently argued was partly responsible for how well Canada was able to weather the crash.
I'm not going to argue the words of Wikipedia with you.
Either way, he did not deregulate and has made no such effort to move in that direction. You see, politicians also learn some things along the way.
In real life (talking politics to carbon based life forms in the same room), I have given full credit to the Liberal government which tightened the banking laws to not allow them to over-leverage.
I also credit past Conservstive governments for Free Trade and how it has ensured we keep up with the burgeoning (at the time) world economy.
Just as I was baffled by the Liberals and the gun registry and sponsorship scandal, I am bothered by C-51 and Mulroney with the jets.
I am most dismayed by this "strong middle class" election message. Strive to the middle, that's what makes a country great. Canadians always suffer from inferiority complex on the world stage. Peacekeepers. Strive to blend in. We have a PM who stood up to RUSSIA. That takes balls. He did what Obama wouldn't do. If you think what Harper did was wrong then you think Putin was right. A leader who stand up for what is right is important with the world so unstable
- EU in disarray, England thinking of pulling out - ISIS - Putin making overtures on Arctic land rights
Sending Trudeau into these battles would be like asking your kid brother to go up to the high school bully and offer him a candy bar to not beat you up.
^^^ The best indicator of future performance of a "global representative" can only be seen by what is thrown at them. World events can not be altered by one man.(person)
Can I interest you in the works of Hiltler? No I am not calling our current leader Hitler, I am merely refuting your statement that one man cannot alter world events. It has been proven time and time again in the annals of history that this can and has happened. As for being a global representative, under his term the worlds view of Canada has declined. This would seem to indicated that both nationally and internationally he has failed.
So mulcair is going to change world events? Trudeau? May? Don't think so. Beliefs alter world events - the leader is just the voice of many.
For the record I think that the partys have no world clout.
That is not what I said, I merely refuted your statement that one person cannot change world events. To then turn around and say that another person has the potential to change world events in a sarcastic manner is very mundane. There is no quick answer and there is no all encompassing solution in play. What I did say is that under his term Canada has suffered nationally and internationally in terms of policies, laws and just plain respect.
Canada has suffered yes. But the alternate leaders are not very convincing on a global scale.
Wasn't being sarcastic. When it comes to politics I speak the truth.
Currently Canada needs to take care of her own house before worrying what the neighbours are doing. We will need to get there eventually but there has been so much damage done to Canada internally that that is where we must focus first. One of those things is pulling out of the TPP which is a horrible move for Canada and in fact for all countries, it is a conglomerate company boon which none of us will ever see any benefit from. Harper has never been well received on a global scale but you seem to be okay with that from him. Why discriminate against other leaders on the same point?
To quote Michael Jackson "It's a turf war on a global scale, I'd rather hear both sides Of the tale"
Well, I have a low opinion of most Crown Corporations, particularly the CBC (cannot watch all the Justin Trudeau coverage, could their bias be any more obvious?) and Canada Post. Mostly it has to do with fat cat CUPE employees who make it seem like a personal affront to them when you make them do something. Let them slide into the public sector and see how the real world works combined with wages that better fit your skill set (yes, they are overpaid).
So if you are talking economics, Harper's Conservstives went through a recession. You do remember 2008 right? Compare how much debt Canada went into compared with the other G7 countries (Especially the US). The years before that the economy was full steam ahead, driven by the engine propelling it, oil. We got through those lean years relatively unscathed. Minimal stimulus was required and we are still growing. Growing at a sustainable level so inflation does not become an issue.
I have issues with Harper's Conservstives, his position on Crown Corporations and his stewardship of the economy are not among them.
The blow of the recession was lessened in spite of Harper, not because of him. He was against banking regulations, the same banking regulations that saved our ass.
Myth 1: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries because of Harper’s leadership. Facts: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries, yes, but did so in spite of Harper as much or more than because of him. Experts mostly agree that Canada has fared well for two reasons: (i) our banks had regulations preventing them from engaging in many of the risky lending practices that brought down the big U.S. banks (Harper himself has said this); (ii) we, like most other developed countries, used fiscal stimulus to cushion the fall in the immediate aftermath of the banking crisis, and we bailed out some of our big manufacturers (e.g. General Motors and Chrysler).
Canada’s banking regulations pre-dated Harper by decades. In fact, prior to the financial crisis, Harper was a proponent of deregulation. In 2006 for example, he paved the way for the introduction of the risky 40-year, zero-down mortgages that helped bring down the U.S. banking system – insured by Canadian taxpayers. Some have argued that Canada would have suffered much worse in the financial crisis had it happened a few years later. In fact, we may not even be out of the woods yet. Canada’s housing market is considered to be dangerously (~35%) over-valued, and the drop in oil prices is threatening to burst the bubble. In opposition and at the National Citizens Coalition, Harper was similarly a proponent of U.S.-style banking deregulation, and was a critic of Chrétien’s decision to block large bank mergers in the late ’90s – a decision which the IMF recently argued was partly responsible for how well Canada was able to weather the crash.
I'm not going to argue the words of Wikipedia with you.
Either way, he did not deregulate and has made no such effort to move in that direction. You see, politicians also learn some things along the way.
In real life (talking politics to carbon based life forms in the same room), I have given full credit to the Liberal government which tightened the banking laws to not allow them to over-leverage.
I also credit past Conservstive governments for Free Trade and how it has ensured we keep up with the burgeoning (at the time) world economy.
Just as I was baffled by the Liberals and the gun registry and sponsorship scandal, I am bothered by C-51 and Mulroney with the jets.
I am most dismayed by this "strong middle class" election message. Strive to the middle, that's what makes a country great. Canadians always suffer from inferiority complex on the world stage. Peacekeepers. Strive to blend in. We have a PM who stood up to RUSSIA. That takes balls. He did what Obama wouldn't do. If you think what Harper did was wrong then you think Putin was right. A leader who stand up for what is right is important with the world so unstable
- EU in disarray, England thinking of pulling out - ISIS - Putin making overtures on Arctic land rights
Sending Trudeau into these battles would be like asking your kid brother to go up to the high school bully and offer him a candy bar to not beat you up.
It sounds to me like you'd prefer us to be more like the US.
You do understand that our international reputation is strong? I don't have an inferiority complex. I'm actually proud of Canada and our place in the world. Most I know are as well.
Some good information was offered to you regarding Harper's inefficiency. You largely ignored it to talk of brass balls (essentially). Wanna know who has bigger balls? Chretien refuted our biggest allies to the south refusing to go to war in Iraq in 2003. Harper's tail couldn't have wagged any harder to please Bush given that situation.
And you speak of a desire to engage in meaningful debate?
Well, I have a low opinion of most Crown Corporations, particularly the CBC (cannot watch all the Justin Trudeau coverage, could their bias be any more obvious?) and Canada Post. Mostly it has to do with fat cat CUPE employees who make it seem like a personal affront to them when you make them do something. Let them slide into the public sector and see how the real world works combined with wages that better fit your skill set (yes, they are overpaid).
So if you are talking economics, Harper's Conservstives went through a recession. You do remember 2008 right? Compare how much debt Canada went into compared with the other G7 countries (Especially the US). The years before that the economy was full steam ahead, driven by the engine propelling it, oil. We got through those lean years relatively unscathed. Minimal stimulus was required and we are still growing. Growing at a sustainable level so inflation does not become an issue.
I have issues with Harper's Conservstives, his position on Crown Corporations and his stewardship of the economy are not among them.
The blow of the recession was lessened in spite of Harper, not because of him. He was against banking regulations, the same banking regulations that saved our ass.
Myth 1: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries because of Harper’s leadership. Facts: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries, yes, but did so in spite of Harper as much or more than because of him. Experts mostly agree that Canada has fared well for two reasons: (i) our banks had regulations preventing them from engaging in many of the risky lending practices that brought down the big U.S. banks (Harper himself has said this); (ii) we, like most other developed countries, used fiscal stimulus to cushion the fall in the immediate aftermath of the banking crisis, and we bailed out some of our big manufacturers (e.g. General Motors and Chrysler).
Canada’s banking regulations pre-dated Harper by decades. In fact, prior to the financial crisis, Harper was a proponent of deregulation. In 2006 for example, he paved the way for the introduction of the risky 40-year, zero-down mortgages that helped bring down the U.S. banking system – insured by Canadian taxpayers. Some have argued that Canada would have suffered much worse in the financial crisis had it happened a few years later. In fact, we may not even be out of the woods yet. Canada’s housing market is considered to be dangerously (~35%) over-valued, and the drop in oil prices is threatening to burst the bubble. In opposition and at the National Citizens Coalition, Harper was similarly a proponent of U.S.-style banking deregulation, and was a critic of Chrétien’s decision to block large bank mergers in the late ’90s – a decision which the IMF recently argued was partly responsible for how well Canada was able to weather the crash.
I'm not going to argue the words of Wikipedia with you.
Either way, he did not deregulate and has made no such effort to move in that direction. You see, politicians also learn some things along the way.
In real life (talking politics to carbon based life forms in the same room), I have given full credit to the Liberal government which tightened the banking laws to not allow them to over-leverage.
I also credit past Conservstive governments for Free Trade and how it has ensured we keep up with the burgeoning (at the time) world economy.
Just as I was baffled by the Liberals and the gun registry and sponsorship scandal, I am bothered by C-51 and Mulroney with the jets.
I am most dismayed by this "strong middle class" election message. Strive to the middle, that's what makes a country great. Canadians always suffer from inferiority complex on the world stage. Peacekeepers. Strive to blend in. We have a PM who stood up to RUSSIA. That takes balls. He did what Obama wouldn't do. If you think what Harper did was wrong then you think Putin was right. A leader who stand up for what is right is important with the world so unstable
- EU in disarray, England thinking of pulling out - ISIS - Putin making overtures on Arctic land rights
Sending Trudeau into these battles would be like asking your kid brother to go up to the high school bully and offer him a candy bar to not beat you up.
It sounds to me like you'd prefer us to be more like the US.
You do understand that our international reputation is strong? I don't have an inferiority complex. I'm actually proud of Canada and our place in the world. Most I know are as well.
Some good information was offered to you regarding Harper's inefficiency. You largely ignored it to talk of brass balls (essentially). Wanna know who has bigger balls? Chretien refuted our biggest allies to the south refusing to go to war in Iraq in 2003. Harper's tail couldn't have wagged any harder to please Bush given that situation.
And you speak of a desire to engage in meaningful debate?
That was over a decade ago thirty. That decision paid of in spades. Now the world is infected by war and we are no longer a country to "opt out".
Well, I have a low opinion of most Crown Corporations, particularly the CBC (cannot watch all the Justin Trudeau coverage, could their bias be any more obvious?) and Canada Post. Mostly it has to do with fat cat CUPE employees who make it seem like a personal affront to them when you make them do something. Let them slide into the public sector and see how the real world works combined with wages that better fit your skill set (yes, they are overpaid).
So if you are talking economics, Harper's Conservstives went through a recession. You do remember 2008 right? Compare how much debt Canada went into compared with the other G7 countries (Especially the US). The years before that the economy was full steam ahead, driven by the engine propelling it, oil. We got through those lean years relatively unscathed. Minimal stimulus was required and we are still growing. Growing at a sustainable level so inflation does not become an issue.
I have issues with Harper's Conservstives, his position on Crown Corporations and his stewardship of the economy are not among them.
The blow of the recession was lessened in spite of Harper, not because of him. He was against banking regulations, the same banking regulations that saved our ass.
Myth 1: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries because of Harper’s leadership. Facts: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries, yes, but did so in spite of Harper as much or more than because of him. Experts mostly agree that Canada has fared well for two reasons: (i) our banks had regulations preventing them from engaging in many of the risky lending practices that brought down the big U.S. banks (Harper himself has said this); (ii) we, like most other developed countries, used fiscal stimulus to cushion the fall in the immediate aftermath of the banking crisis, and we bailed out some of our big manufacturers (e.g. General Motors and Chrysler).
Canada’s banking regulations pre-dated Harper by decades. In fact, prior to the financial crisis, Harper was a proponent of deregulation. In 2006 for example, he paved the way for the introduction of the risky 40-year, zero-down mortgages that helped bring down the U.S. banking system – insured by Canadian taxpayers. Some have argued that Canada would have suffered much worse in the financial crisis had it happened a few years later. In fact, we may not even be out of the woods yet. Canada’s housing market is considered to be dangerously (~35%) over-valued, and the drop in oil prices is threatening to burst the bubble. In opposition and at the National Citizens Coalition, Harper was similarly a proponent of U.S.-style banking deregulation, and was a critic of Chrétien’s decision to block large bank mergers in the late ’90s – a decision which the IMF recently argued was partly responsible for how well Canada was able to weather the crash.
I'm not going to argue the words of Wikipedia with you.
Either way, he did not deregulate and has made no such effort to move in that direction. You see, politicians also learn some things along the way.
In real life (talking politics to carbon based life forms in the same room), I have given full credit to the Liberal government which tightened the banking laws to not allow them to over-leverage.
I also credit past Conservstive governments for Free Trade and how it has ensured we keep up with the burgeoning (at the time) world economy.
Just as I was baffled by the Liberals and the gun registry and sponsorship scandal, I am bothered by C-51 and Mulroney with the jets.
I am most dismayed by this "strong middle class" election message. Strive to the middle, that's what makes a country great. Canadians always suffer from inferiority complex on the world stage. Peacekeepers. Strive to blend in. We have a PM who stood up to RUSSIA. That takes balls. He did what Obama wouldn't do. If you think what Harper did was wrong then you think Putin was right. A leader who stand up for what is right is important with the world so unstable
- EU in disarray, England thinking of pulling out - ISIS - Putin making overtures on Arctic land rights
Sending Trudeau into these battles would be like asking your kid brother to go up to the high school bully and offer him a candy bar to not beat you up.
It sounds to me like you'd prefer us to be more like the US.
You do understand that our international reputation is strong? I don't have an inferiority complex. I'm actually proud of Canada and our place in the world. Most I know are as well.
Some good information was offered to you regarding Harper's inefficiency. You largely ignored it to talk of brass balls (essentially). Wanna know who has bigger balls? Chretien refuted our biggest allies to the south refusing to go to war in Iraq in 2003. Harper's tail couldn't have wagged any harder to please Bush given that situation.
And you speak of a desire to engage in meaningful debate?
No, I gave you plenty of evidence which you chose to ignore because it doesn't fit YOUR idea of Canada. The blinders remain on. Even when I give credit to the "left" you choose to argue and call me a "wanna be American" (so typical) I agree that Chrétien made the right choice in 03 and I applauded him then, just as I agreed with Harper's stand against the atrocities in the Ukraine.
Once again you continue to insinuate I am a devout Harper supporter. It's comical. I keep saying the same thing, none of these leaders excite me. I would gladly debate with you if you ever once admitted that a) Harper or the Conservstives did anything right and b) stopped with the personal attacks.
To this point it has been venom and hate for anything that doesn't agree with your agenda, which is Harper is pure evil and that is pure foolishness.
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But I live under a bridge yes. Downtown. I drew some blood. This city she loves me
I am not sure why you continue to attack me personally, but I'm generally surprised by your lack of understanding that a young man makes mistakes and your general lack of a sense of humour.
But there is diplomatic processes that were undertaken to free this man.
In turn diplomacy should've been shown in the press.
Any validity he has going forward is gone.
He has dual citizenship and cried Canadian when in trouble now he cries that he is a poor Canadian mistreated by the govt.
Journalist or not you can't have your cake......
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Yes, some intelligent debate would have been enlightening. Unfortunately I was dragged into the mudslinging because I admitted to making a mistake as a teenager. (Choosing the wrong career path, no one else has ever done that)
How that excuses able bodied 25 year olds collecting welfare is beyond me.
But, that is politics. Instead of focussing on the issues it becomes personal attacks. Thank you for participation in Politics 101
Harper's fiscal management is a tale of reversal and failure, not triumph. Department of Finance Fiscal Reference Tables reveal that in the years before Harper became prime minister, there were nine consecutive years of budgetary surpluses, from 1997 to 2007. In eight of those years, Ottawa amassed a surplus of over $79 billion. Yet In Harper's first eight years as prime minister, he managed to produce a deficit of almost $127 billion.
How difficult can it be to balance the books when cuts and closures rule the day and program spending is estimated to have fallen by some $4 billion last year alone? The Harper government has cut almost 26,000 public service jobs in the last three years and they have dropped or axed many important programs and services.
http://m.thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/06/12/Harper-Put-Canada-in-the-Red/
He's not done yet: Canada Post, despite reporting large profits, is moving to community mail boxes eliminating a massive number of working class people. The auto industry is getting beat down. And the list goes on.
Instead of demanding corporations pay their fair share of taxes, he shrinks our workforce. Say nothing of compromising our national values as he strokes international interests... he's secretive and he's scandalous.
He can't run his campaign on his body of work because its been poor: instead he resorts to the oldest method- attacking and discrediting his opponents to strike fear in the 'drooling fools'. This is where my original comment was borne from: he's not worth a vote for most... and if someone is voting for him fearing that 'the other guy's not ready yet'... they've bought the tactic.
After such a lengthy term... he should be able to present his work and not even acknowledge his opposition. He can't though. It's simply not impressive.
Have you chewed on this? Do you care to comment?
With four more years he will be the best bleeding heart you have ever seen.
The best indicator of future performance is past performance.
He's been brutal to the working class. He'll be brutal again.
The best indicator of future performance of a "global representative" can only be seen by what is thrown at them.
World events can not be altered by one man.(person)
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
I want him gone?
Mostly it has to do with fat cat CUPE employees who make it seem like a personal affront to them when you make them do something. Let them slide into the public sector and see how the real world works combined with wages that better fit your skill set (yes, they are overpaid).
So if you are talking economics, Harper's Conservstives went through a recession. You do remember 2008 right?
Compare how much debt Canada went into compared with the other G7 countries (Especially the US).
The years before that the economy was full steam ahead, driven by the engine propelling it, oil.
We got through those lean years relatively unscathed. Minimal stimulus was required and we are still growing. Growing at a sustainable level so inflation does not become an issue.
I have issues with Harper's Conservstives, his position on Crown Corporations and his stewardship of the economy are not among them.
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Trudeau?
May?
Don't think so.
Beliefs alter world events - the leader is just the voice of many.
For the record I think that the partys have no world clout.
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
http://theteteatete.org/2015/05/04/how-and-why-stephen-harper-is-a-bad-economic-manager/
Myth 1: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries because of Harper’s leadership.
Facts: Canada weathered the global recession better than other G7 countries, yes, but did so in spite of Harper as much or more than because of him. Experts mostly agree that Canada has fared well for two reasons: (i) our banks had regulations preventing them from engaging in many of the risky lending practices that brought down the big U.S. banks (Harper himself has said this); (ii) we, like most other developed countries, used fiscal stimulus to cushion the fall in the immediate aftermath of the banking crisis, and we bailed out some of our big manufacturers (e.g. General Motors and Chrysler).
Canada’s banking regulations pre-dated Harper by decades. In fact, prior to the financial crisis, Harper was a proponent of deregulation. In 2006 for example, he paved the way for the introduction of the risky 40-year, zero-down mortgages that helped bring down the U.S. banking system – insured by Canadian taxpayers. Some have argued that Canada would have suffered much worse in the financial crisis had it happened a few years later. In fact, we may not even be out of the woods yet. Canada’s housing market is considered to be dangerously (~35%) over-valued, and the drop in oil prices is threatening to burst the bubble. In opposition and at the National Citizens Coalition, Harper was similarly a proponent of U.S.-style banking deregulation, and was a critic of Chrétien’s decision to block large bank mergers in the late ’90s – a decision which the IMF recently argued was partly responsible for how well Canada was able to weather the crash.
But the alternate leaders are not very convincing on a global scale.
Wasn't being sarcastic.
When it comes to politics I speak the truth.
Yes... it could be worse.
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
I just sold him a house for 50 million.
Why wouldn't I like trump
Either way, he did not deregulate and has made no such effort to move in that direction.
You see, politicians also learn some things along the way.
In real life (talking politics to carbon based life forms in the same room), I have given full credit to the Liberal government which tightened the banking laws to not allow them to over-leverage.
I also credit past Conservstive governments for Free Trade and how it has ensured we keep up with the burgeoning (at the time) world economy.
Just as I was baffled by the Liberals and the gun registry and sponsorship scandal, I am bothered by C-51 and Mulroney with the jets.
I am most dismayed by this "strong middle class" election message. Strive to the middle, that's what makes a country great.
Canadians always suffer from inferiority complex on the world stage. Peacekeepers. Strive to blend in. We have a PM who stood up to RUSSIA. That takes balls. He did what Obama wouldn't do.
If you think what Harper did was wrong then you think Putin was right. A leader who stand up for what is right is important with the world so unstable
- EU in disarray, England thinking of pulling out
- ISIS
- Putin making overtures on Arctic land rights
Sending Trudeau into these battles would be like asking your kid brother to go up to the high school bully and offer him a candy bar to not beat you up.
"It's a turf war on a global scale,
I'd rather hear both sides Of the tale"
I had no idea MJ said anything so succinct. Crazy
You do understand that our international reputation is strong? I don't have an inferiority complex. I'm actually proud of Canada and our place in the world. Most I know are as well.
Some good information was offered to you regarding Harper's inefficiency. You largely ignored it to talk of brass balls (essentially). Wanna know who has bigger balls? Chretien refuted our biggest allies to the south refusing to go to war in Iraq in 2003. Harper's tail couldn't have wagged any harder to please Bush given that situation.
And you speak of a desire to engage in meaningful debate?
That decision paid of in spades.
Now the world is infected by war and we are no longer a country to "opt out".
I agree that Chrétien made the right choice in 03 and I applauded him then, just as I agreed with Harper's stand against the atrocities in the Ukraine.
Once again you continue to insinuate I am a devout Harper supporter. It's comical. I keep saying the same thing, none of these leaders excite me.
I would gladly debate with you if you ever once admitted that a) Harper or the Conservstives did anything right and b) stopped with the personal attacks.
To this point it has been venom and hate for anything that doesn't agree with your agenda, which is Harper is pure evil and that is pure foolishness.