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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    So Harper came out saying he wanted to increase spending on the drug war, and actually had the nerve to say that the majority of Canadians don't want MJ laws changed. The guy just straight up lies. The MJ question on the above site (isidewith) has responses at 71% pro-legalization....based on 400k votes as of last night. That's not a small sample...albeit, being a social media thing - it is def weighted to a younger demo...and you can take the test multiple times, so it's not exactly scientific....but the globe, national post and others have all done polls that show canadians favour legalization. Harper's pandering to his base is folly, hope it bites him in the end....god I hope the youth get out and vote this time around - here and in the states.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited August 2015
    Drowned Out said:

    i haven't said anything about anyone paying more taxes. I did mention that we should re-prioritize spending. That said, if not taxes, how do we close the gap of income inequality? Or do you not think that's a problem?
    anyway....this discussion gets really broad and ideological.

    I bumped this to see if any of you have taken the quiz at https://canada.isidewith.com/political-quiz
    I did, and was really surprised to see my results come back with the Liberal party as my closest match at 91%...then the Greens at 90%....NDP at 88%, and Communist at 75%.....Cons at 10% :lol: (shocker)...I think if I put more thought and research into my answers, that would even go down - the only agreement I had with their platform was on election reform, and I am admittedly waaaay underinformed on that topic. Pretty sure that if I agreed with the Cons on it, I need to do more reading :lol: I had put very little thought into some of the questions prior to this quiz; haven't read into my options enough to have made informed decisions. I am going to do some reading and re-take the quiz.
    What a great site tho! Tons and tons of info, and an ability to check popular opinion based on nation, province, or city, for each question....compare platforms, discuss stances. great stuff. Not to patronize, but I think everyone should spend a lot of time on this site before the election!

    Thanks for sharing that Drowned...here are my results. http://canada.isidewith.com/results/1238143021

    I, like you, need to look into a few of these issues more carefully.
    Post edited by dignin on
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    Please make this guy your new king ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6fhub9HDQ
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    I KNEW you would be the guy to find that as soon as I saw it :lol:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,693
    edited August 2015
    Drowned Out said:

    I KNEW you would be the guy to find that as soon as I saw it :lol:

    :lol:
    I saw the guy on the morning news yesterday. Obviously his ad is working like gangbusters, because there is no way the media would be interviewing him and asking him about his platform otherwise.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Took that quiz. There were some interesting questions.

    Libertarian 78%
    Conservative 67%
    Liberal 67%
    NDP 67%
    BQ 54%
    Communist 54%
    Green 52%

    I'm not sure this helped me at all :lol
    I have always thought of myself as a Libertarian, so now I will just say that as opposed to a "social liberal, fiscal conservative" :smiley:
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Hard for a majority of Canadians to argue the merit in this policy to be tabled again.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-says-hell-reintroduce-life-means-life/ar-BBlQx6f?ocid=mailsignoutmd

    Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?


  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,693
    edited August 2015
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Hard for a majority of Canadians to argue the merit in this policy to be tabled again.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-says-hell-reintroduce-life-means-life/ar-BBlQx6f?ocid=mailsignoutmd

    Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?


    I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that.
    I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. As long as the left is split between two major parties, the Conservatives will win... barring something even worse than all the diabolical things they have already done, which is pretty fucking hard to imagine. Then again... it's not like it's impossible for another party to win a minority government. But honestly, I'm not even sure I would prefer that. A minority government is generally even less effective than a majority one.... Wait, no. I take that back. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Hard for a majority of Canadians to argue the merit in this policy to be tabled again.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-says-hell-reintroduce-life-means-life/ar-BBlQx6f?ocid=mailsignoutmd

    Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?


    I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that.
    I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
    Curious.....
    What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited August 2015
    Nah...most Canadians are with you, and the polls support that. They don't support a con majority tho...

    1thought....still a label man! I would rather tell you who I'm voting for (undecided as of now), than define my political beliefs in a word or two :wink:
    You're only 10% away from being NDP :smiley: (NDP was third for me, behind the libs and greens).

    There are positives to every ideology; nearly all have the potential for utopia if implemented purely...libertarianism included. greed always seems to win out in the end...and greed is esp scary in a system with very few checks and balances....justmho
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Hard for a majority of Canadians to argue the merit in this policy to be tabled again.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-says-hell-reintroduce-life-means-life/ar-BBlQx6f?ocid=mailsignoutmd

    Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?


    I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that.
    I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
    Curious.....
    What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
    For starters:

    http://m.thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/10/Harper-Abuses-of-Power-Final/?utm_source=fb-page-editor-post&utm_medium=fb-page&utm_campaign=fb-08-2015
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Drowned Out said:

    Nah...most Canadians are with you, and the polls support that. They don't support a con majority tho...

    1thought....still a label man! I would rather tell you who I'm voting for (undecided as of now), than define my political beliefs in a word or two :wink: Answering some of those questions with only a
    You're only 10% away from being NDP :smiley: (NDP was third for me, behind the libs and greens).

    There are positives to every ideology; nearly all have the potential for utopia if implemented purely...libertarianism included. greed always seems to win out in the end...and greed is esp scary in a system with very few checks and balances....justmho

    There is plenty of checks and balances.
    Every party speaks as to what they will offer if elected.
    We vote.
    Not hard.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited August 2015
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Nah...most Canadians are with you, and the polls support that. They don't support a con majority tho...

    1thought....still a label man! I would rather tell you who I'm voting for (undecided as of now), than define my political beliefs in a word or two :wink: Answering some of those questions with only a
    You're only 10% away from being NDP :smiley: (NDP was third for me, behind the libs and greens).

    There are positives to every ideology; nearly all have the potential for utopia if implemented purely...libertarianism included. greed always seems to win out in the end...and greed is esp scary in a system with very few checks and balances....justmho

    There is plenty of checks and balances.
    Every party speaks as to what they will offer if elected.
    We vote.
    Not hard.
    I was talking about libertarianism....but since you mentioned it....voting every 4-5 years then leaving everything to the parties is hardly checks nor balances
    Post edited by Drowned Out on
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^^^^
    Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?





  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,693
    edited August 2015
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Hard for a majority of Canadians to argue the merit in this policy to be tabled again.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-says-hell-reintroduce-life-means-life/ar-BBlQx6f?ocid=mailsignoutmd

    Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?


    I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that.
    I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
    Curious.....
    What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
    Where to begin? ... I'll just name a few:
    - muzzling of scientists
    - vocal support of Israel
    - working to pretty much base the entire Canadian economy on oil
    - he's anti-union
    - the ridiculous terms of the tax-sharing program
    - the bribery behind the increased (and essentially useless) child care benefit
    - the fact that he is does not speak to the Canadian people EVER
    - his almost complete evasion/barring of the press corp and limiting access to information (seriously, it's fucked up)
    - the fact that he heads up a bunch of corrupt motherfuckers and doesn't care
    - he's against the legalization of marijuana and wants to persist with the failed war against drugs
    - he's against the legalization of death with dignity and is still trying to throw wrenches in that process even though the supreme court overruled his ridiculous rejection of it
    - he's a fucking evangelical Christian; a religious fundamentalist (okay, that one is just off-putting on a personal level)
    - he's a fucking liar
    - uh, hello, Bill C-51
    - he supports tax cuts for corporations/the rich
    - he is an enemy of the environment
    - massive cuts to the arts and culture sector
    - He reduced the budget for the Status of Women by 43% and stopped funding for research into the advancement for rights for women
    - he exceeded the cap for election spending in the last election, and if he doesn't do it again it will only be because people are watching
    - he signed a deal where Canada is now sharing customs info with corrupt China, threatening the country's security on several levels, and did it in such a hush-hush manor that hardly anyone even knows about it

    Whoops, that's more than a few. Once they started coming they just wouldn't stop. I have more, but this post is getting too long.
    All of these things affect my personal quality of life.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2015
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Hard for a majority of Canadians to argue the merit in this policy to be tabled again.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-says-hell-reintroduce-life-means-life/ar-BBlQx6f?ocid=mailsignoutmd

    Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?


    I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that.
    I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
    Curious.....
    What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
    All of these things affect my personal quality of life.
    How?
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^^^^
    Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?





    He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,693
    edited August 2015
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Hard for a majority of Canadians to argue the merit in this policy to be tabled again.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pm-says-hell-reintroduce-life-means-life/ar-BBlQx6f?ocid=mailsignoutmd

    Or is this another one of my crystal ball predictions of a Conservative majority again?


    I certainly approve of that, obviously. I would hope that whatever party wins would reintroduce that.
    I am not living in a fantasy world. I fucking HATE the Harper government, but I have no reason to think that they won't win a majority again, or at least a strong minority. I would prefer anything over Harper being our PM.
    Curious.....
    What has Harper done to your personal quality of life that has made you have such ventriloque HATE at such a young age?
    All of these things affect my personal quality of life.
    How?
    Every single point at the very least negatively affects my state of mind and how I perceive my world around me, when any of my fellow citizens are negatively affected I am also negatively affected, and how I feel about my country is negatively affected. At most it very directly affects me in the obvious ways (salary, benefits, taxes, the air I breath, the food I eat, the information that is available to me, my security, my freedom, how I die, etc etc etc). Do you not see how all of these issues would affect people? If not, FYI, some people take what the government of their country does personally. I'm one of them. You should be too.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Drowned Out said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^^^^
    Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?

    He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
    I am talking about the election win coming his way in Oct.
    Two months is nothing to wait.
    This campaign race is a smoke and mirrors road trip for everyone.
    No progress or damage can be done in a 3month race.
    These little side polls and temporary upswings for the opposition are simply that - temporary.


  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited August 2015
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^^^^
    Sustaining a majority for multiple elections surely implies having been put through the wringer a few times no?

    He has had one majority government - he has not sustained one thru multiple elections.
    I am talking about the election win coming his way in Oct.
    Two months is nothing to wait.
    This campaign race is a smoke and mirrors road trip for everyone.
    No progress or damage can be done in a 3month race.
    These little side polls and temporary upswings for the opposition are simply that - temporary.


    Bullshit. It was past tense. And it was a pretty lame response to begin with.
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