obama not after your guns ?

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited July 2015
    Gern Blansten said:

    Godfather. said:

    WhatYouTaughtMe said:

    Godfather. said:

    WhatYouTaughtMe said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    I can't believe people actually take godfoxer serious enough to try and reason with him, to debate him, and attempt to alert him to reality.

    Give it up. :anguished:

    Based on his reponses I don't take it seriously, but I don't mind if he keeps invalidating his own argument by presenting no reasonable position.
    good for you, how do not understand ? I have said twice that obamas admin stated PEOPLE ON SS.. .. and that is just opening the door to restricting people from owning guns because of thier age, what part of that do not understand ? it was a simple fucking statement, what if he had said black or brown people who can't control thier affairs can't own a gun...what would you think about that ?
    or was it my obama name calling that got you and everybody else in a tizzy ?

    Godfather.

    So I will post again, hoping for an answer from the OP. In what circumstances would someone unable to handle their own business affairs be able to responsibly carry a firearm? I'm really asking without my mind made up. Is there any situation you would deem this to be safe?
    Yup, a real "tizzy" I am in.
    that would depend on the person, but really anybody with all those problems that obama identified already have been blocked from gun ownership, it just pissed me of that he would use SS as a baseis to restrict gun ownership on anybody. but to answer your question I believe anybody with violent mental issues should not own a gun but the only way to find that problem is to do a medical or criminal background check.......not target people bassed on the source of thier legal income.

    Godfather.

    wait....so you advocate a mental health test for ANYONE who wants a gun permit rather than weeding out those who have already admitted it through SSI benefits?
    I personally DO advocate for that. I don't think it's too much to ask that ANYONE applying for a gun permit/buying a gun must undergo some kind of test to determine if they are minimally mentally fit to own a gun. Such tests wouldn't be infallible, obviously, but they could at least weed out the real nutzos. Of course, doing this would require building a real infrastructure. It's not like someone could just snap some fingers and voila, there is a way to administer tests of mental stability to everyone who wants a gun.
    Anyway, I see absolutely no problem with gun owners having to jump through hoops to own guns. If they think it's so important that they have them, then they should be willing to get through the red tape. There is shit loads of red tape to get a LOT of shit done, so why not for gun ownership??

    That said, since that kind of system isn't the case, I think using flags like people (old and young alike) collecting government benefits through someone else because they're incapable is a perfectly reasonable place to start.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    After reading and participating in this thread, I hope Obama does take your guns. Just yours GF, just for Shits and giggles.
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Last-12-Exit said:

    After reading and participating in this thread, I hope Obama does take your guns. Just yours GF, just for Shits and giggles.

    GF is completey mentally stable though.......
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Smellyman said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    After reading and participating in this thread, I hope Obama does take your guns. Just yours GF, just for Shits and giggles.

    GF is completey mentally stable though.......
    Just for Shits and giggles.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    I just wanna post so in the future I can say I did post in this classic thread ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,289
    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • brianlux
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    imalive said:

    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:

    Simply this: because he's da godfadda. Nobody gonna mess wi' da godfadda. :lol:

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  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    imalive said:

    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:

    Because GOP double standards. It's why republicans throw a hissy fit over Benghazzi et all but have no problem with thousands dying over the Haliburton war and Katrina because white and rethuglican makes Ivy League C grade student from Texas magically hands clean.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,289
    InHiding80 said:

    imalive said:

    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:

    Because GOP double standards. It's why republicans throw a hissy fit over Benghazzi et all but have no problem with thousands dying over the Haliburton war and Katrina because white and rethuglican makes Ivy League C grade student from Texas magically hands clean.
    bingo!!!
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    InHiding80 said:

    imalive said:

    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:

    Because GOP double standards. It's why republicans throw a hissy fit over Benghazzi et all but have no problem with thousands dying over the Haliburton war and Katrina because white and rethuglican makes Ivy League C grade student from Texas magically hands clean.
    You think the GOP is the only party with their hand in the Haliburton cookie jar??Lets not start putting either of these sides up on a soap box.There is enough wrong doing and dirty laundry from almost all the idiot politicians in both of the above referenced events.
    The Liberal Elite dosent get a pass.Far from it.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I just wasted a whole minute or so reading all the post since my last.........good grief, it seems that all I have to do is fall in line with the "obey" frame of mind and I'll be just like you guy's........HAHHAHHHAH when hell freezes over, calling the president names -GUILTY ! attacking train members with names and other shit -nope !

    have a nice day
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    so close.....now if we can just get him stay there......
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/22/security-breach-kenyan-airline-official-leaks-obama-exact-itinerary/?intcmp=latestnews

    LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Godfather.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited July 2015
    imalive said:

    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:

    Though some may not agree with GF he's pretty cool and generally rolls with the punches. Though I'm big opponent of lifetime bans can see how some kept pushing when asked to chill. GF not one of those. And just look at the colorful threads he's created and kept going. GF Is an institution and so glad he's here along with you.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Godfather. said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    goingtoverona said:

    cover your own ass?
    off topic kinda but who do you guys think is responsible for selling more guns and ammunition....liberal politicians that say they're going to introduce restrictive legislation, or conservative politicians that say the liberals are coming for guns you better stock up?

    That's an easy one...they did this same crap when Clinton was president. Scare the rednecks into thinking the gubmint is goin ta git yer gunz and it never happens....ever....yet they keep saying it over and over.

    Edit: I still can't believe people put up the whole "being able to fight off tyranny" mantra regarding the need to have multiple guns. As if they will be any match for drones and tactical nukes.
    GOP sells that brsnd of fear. Dems another kind.
    it's better to have a gun and not need it rather than need a gun and not have it.


    Godfather.

    Disagree. If you have a gun in your home you increase your odds of someone in your family being injured or killed by gun and some criminal breaking I to your home and steeling it.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

    Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    imalive said:

    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:

    Though some may not agree with GF he's pretty cool and generally rolls with the punches. Though I'm big opponent of lifetime bans can see how some kept pushing when asked to chill. GF not one of those. And just look at the colorful threads he's created and kept going. GF Is an institution and so glad he's here along with you.
    thanks' Bro.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

    Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.

    no guns = less deaths, agreed but I wouls also say gun deaths are less than drug, auto and some other weapon deaths like hammers and knives and the gun has played a key roll in the history of the United States and most every country in the world as far as keeping the peace and freedom from being take naway...but without guns at all in history who knows how the world would be,,maybe more peaceful ? maybe not ? humans seem to have a need to kill to settle disputes (not in general) but signs of killing are found all over the world that date back long before guns, as early as the first known (recorded) humans evidence of killing one another for verious reasons has been found so blamming guns for killing is not the answer for me, we the people are the ultimate killing weapon and it seems to have been that way since we have had to learn to survive and we have become experts at killing even without a gun and that's where the real shame lays, us not our guns.

    Godfather.

  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    Godfather. said:

    WhatYouTaughtMe said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    I can't believe people actually take godfoxer serious enough to try and reason with him, to debate him, and attempt to alert him to reality.

    Give it up. :anguished:

    Based on his reponses I don't take it seriously, but I don't mind if he keeps invalidating his own argument by presenting no reasonable position.
    good for you, how do not understand ? I have said twice that obamas admin stated PEOPLE ON SS.. .. and that is just opening the door to restricting people from owning guns because of thier age, what part of that do not understand ? it was a simple fucking statement, what if he had said black or brown people who can't control thier affairs can't own a gun...what would you think about that ?
    or was it my obama name calling that got you and everybody else in a tizzy ?

    Godfather.

    Hey GF, remember when you said you liked one of my signatures
    ......politics is merely the decoy of perception Well if the President said PEOPLE ON SOCIAL SECURITY...that's just a perception, just words a politician has blurted out. You know politicians spout out BS everyday that's what they do. The key here to me is not what he says but reading what the proposed bill/law ACTUALLY says. I'd put more credence into what the bill says than what comes out of President's or ANY POLITICIAN'S mouth.

    Peace
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    g under p said:

    Godfather. said:

    WhatYouTaughtMe said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    I can't believe people actually take godfoxer serious enough to try and reason with him, to debate him, and attempt to alert him to reality.

    Give it up. :anguished:

    Based on his reponses I don't take it seriously, but I don't mind if he keeps invalidating his own argument by presenting no reasonable position.
    good for you, how do not understand ? I have said twice that obamas admin stated PEOPLE ON SS.. .. and that is just opening the door to restricting people from owning guns because of thier age, what part of that do not understand ? it was a simple fucking statement, what if he had said black or brown people who can't control thier affairs can't own a gun...what would you think about that ?
    or was it my obama name calling that got you and everybody else in a tizzy ?

    Godfather.

    Hey GF, remember when you said you liked one of my signatures
    ......politics is merely the decoy of perception Well if the President said PEOPLE ON SOCIAL SECURITY...that's just a perception, just words a politician has blurted out. You know politicians spout out BS everyday that's what they do. The key here to me is not what he says but reading what the proposed bill/law ACTUALLY says. I'd put more credence into what the bill says than what comes out of President's or ANY POLITICIAN'S mouth.

    Peace
    your right......."just cause I'm paranoid dosen't mean nothings going on" LOL!!!!!!

    Godfather.

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