obama not after your guns ?

Godfather.

this president is a asshat, obama needs to move his stupid ass back to kenya.

Godfather.

The Obama administration wants to keep people collecting Social Security benefits from owning guns if it is determined they are unable to manage their own affairs, the Los Angeles Times reported.

The push, which could potentially affect millions whose monthly disability payments are handled by others, is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws that prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the United States illegally, and others, according to the paper.

The language of federal gun laws restricts ownership to people who are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease” – which could potentially affect a large group within Social Security, the LA Times reported.

If Social Security, which has never taken part in the background check system, uses the same standard as the Department of Veterans Affairs – which is the idea floated – then millions of beneficiaries could be affected, with about 4.2 million adults receiving monthly benefits that are managed by “representative payees.”

The latest move is part of the efforts by President Obama to strengthen gun control following the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in 2012.

Critics are blasting the plan, saying that expanding the list of people who cannot own guns based on financial competence is wrongheaded.

The ban, they argue, would keep guns out of the hands of some dangerous people, but would also include people who simply have a bad memory or have a hard time balancing a checkbook.

The background check for gun ownership started in 1993 by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, named after White House Press Secretary James Brady, who was partially paralyzed after being shot in the 1981 assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan.

Gun stores are required to run the names of potential buyers through a computerized system before every sale.

Click for the full story from the Los Angeles Times.

Gern Blansten

Yeah...keeping mentally disabled people from owning guns is bad.

The Gern Blansten

g under p

Godfather. said:

this president is a asshat, obama needs to move his stupid ass back to kenya.

Godfather.

The Obama administration wants to keep people collecting Social Security benefits from owning guns if it is determined they are unable to manage their own affairs, the Los Angeles Times reported.

The push, which could potentially affect millions whose monthly disability payments are handled by others, is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws that prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the United States illegally, and others, according to the paper.

The language of federal gun laws restricts ownership to people who are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease” – which could potentially affect a large group within Social Security, the LA Times reported.

If Social Security, which has never taken part in the background check system, uses the same standard as the Department of Veterans Affairs – which is the idea floated – then millions of beneficiaries could be affected, with about 4.2 million adults receiving monthly benefits that are managed by “representative payees.”

The latest move is part of the efforts by President Obama to strengthen gun control following the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in 2012.

Critics are blasting the plan, saying that expanding the list of people who cannot own guns based on financial competence is wrongheaded.

The ban, they argue, would keep guns out of the hands of some dangerous people, but would also include people who simply have a bad memory or have a hard time balancing a checkbook.

The background check for gun ownership started in 1993 by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, named after White House Press Secretary James Brady, who was partially paralyzed after being shot in the 1981 assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan.

Gun stores are required to run the names of potential buyers through a computerized system before every sale.

Click for the full story from the Los Angeles Times.

So where's the full story GF? BTW, the President is not from Kenya and I think you know that by now.

Peace

Godfather.

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah...keeping mentally disabled people from owning guns is bad.

The Gern Blansten

but obama doen't want our guns right........

Godfather.

rgambs

Godfather. said:

this president is a asshat, obama needs to move his stupid ass back to kenya.

Godfather.

The Obama administration wants to keep people collecting Social Security benefits from owning guns if it is determined they are unable to manage their own affairs, the Los Angeles Times reported.

The push, which could potentially affect millions whose monthly disability payments are handled by others, is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws that prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the United States illegally, and others, according to the paper.

The language of federal gun laws restricts ownership to people who are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease” – which could potentially affect a large group within Social Security, the LA Times reported.

If Social Security, which has never taken part in the background check system, uses the same standard as the Department of Veterans Affairs – which is the idea floated – then millions of beneficiaries could be affected, with about 4.2 million adults receiving monthly benefits that are managed by “representative payees.”

The latest move is part of the efforts by President Obama to strengthen gun control following the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in 2012.

Critics are blasting the plan, saying that expanding the list of people who cannot own guns based on financial competence is wrongheaded.

The ban, they argue, would keep guns out of the hands of some dangerous people, but would also include people who simply have a bad memory or have a hard time balancing a checkbook.

The background check for gun ownership started in 1993 by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, named after White House Press Secretary James Brady, who was partially paralyzed after being shot in the 1981 assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan.

Gun stores are required to run the names of potential buyers through a computerized system before every sale.

Click for the full story from the Los Angeles Times.

You sound just as ignorant as Trump.
"Go back to Kenya, dummy"
Do you disagree with mentally unfit people owning guns or are you just looking for a reason to bash the President.

Gern Blansten

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah...keeping mentally disabled people from owning guns is bad.

The Gern Blansten

but obama doen't want our guns right........

Godfather.

Obviously not. You do get credit for spelling "guns" correctly.

rgambs

A year ago a 76 year old man shot a 16 year old girl in the head, because he thought she was a gopher in the field. But that was his right, no?

rr165892

GF,you know I fall right of center and I'm also gun owner with a CCP license.But I am also aware that we need to strengthen our resolve when it comes to who gets guns ,at least legally.
Who cares if there is more backround checks? If your legit,you should have no issue.No one is asking for an inventory of your arsenal.
When 1 idiot tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb,all of us paid for it by having to ridiculously take shoes off when getting on a plane.ONE GUY,ONE TIME.
So know we have multiple mass shootings of hundreds of innocent victims,including kids and families.We have done nothing!!!!! Not one fucking thing.Any gun owner who is responsible should have no issue with making it tougher for those who want to acquire,Espescially illegal immigrants and those already relying on the entitlements of the government tit.They should be more concerned with buying milk,books and clothes not Bullets and Guns.

rgambs

rr165892 said:

GF,you know I fall right of center and I'm also gun owner with a CCP license.But I am also aware that we need to strengthen our resolve when it comes to who gets guns ,at least legally.
Who cares if there is more backround checks? If your legit,you should have no issue.No one is asking for an inventory of your arsenal.
When 1 idiot tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb,all of us paid for it by having to ridiculously take shoes off when getting on a plane.ONE GUY,ONE TIME.
So know we have multiple mass shootings of hundreds of innocent victims,including kids and families.We have done nothing!!!!! Not one fucking thing.Any gun owner who is responsible should have no issue with making it tougher for those who want to acquire,Espescially illegal immigrants and those already relying on the entitlements of the government tit.They should be more concerned with buying milk,books and clothes not Bullets and Guns.

Good post, I fully agree. As a responsible gun owner I have no problem with increased safety measures like this. The "coming for your guns" fearmongering coming from the NRA is just pathetic, and frankly, so are those who fall for it.

Gern Blansten

rr165892 said:

GF,you know I fall right of center and I'm also gun owner with a CCP license.But I am also aware that we need to strengthen our resolve when it comes to who gets guns ,at least legally.
Who cares if there is more backround checks? If your legit,you should have no issue.No one is asking for an inventory of your arsenal.
When 1 idiot tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb,all of us paid for it by having to ridiculously take shoes off when getting on a plane.ONE GUY,ONE TIME.
So know we have multiple mass shootings of hundreds of innocent victims,including kids and families.We have done nothing!!!!! Not one fucking thing.Any gun owner who is responsible should have no issue with making it tougher for those who want to acquire,Espescially illegal immigrants and those already relying on the entitlements of the government tit.They should be more concerned with buying milk,books and clothes not Bullets and Guns.

exactly....I've got a CCP as well. That doesn't mean every time someone mentions trying to curb this insane gun culture that I'm going to wrap myself in the flag and shit my pants.

Even Reagan was against assault weapons for god's sake....why did the GOP desert Reagan on this issue? (rhetorical question....I know why)

Godfather.

little by little gun rights are being restricted and everybody just keeps drinking the cool-aid.
how about the stories about these welfare folks using guns ? are they next to lose thier right to own a gun ? that's it folks just keep dringing the cool-aid....uncle obama will make everything better....he's a idiot.

Godfather.

Gern Blansten

Godfather. said:

little by little gun rights are being restricted and everybody just keeps drinking the cool-aid.
how about the stories about these welfare folks using guns ? are they next to lose thier right to own a gun ? that's it folks just keep dringing the cool-aid....uncle obama will make everything better....he's a idiot.

Godfather.

dude you have kool aid rings all over your face...gun rights need to be restricted

Gern Blansten

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/reaganak47.asp

good ole Raygun

Godfather.

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/reaganak47.asp

good ole Raygun

Reagan ? so what !

Godfather.

Last-12-Exit

Wow, what a horrible idea. Keep guns out of the hands of the incompetent, drug users, mentally disabled, and felons. What A asshole.

Godfather.

Last-12-Exit said:

Wow, what a horrible idea. Keep guns out of the hands of the incompetent, drug users, mentally disabled, and felons. What A asshole.

those people are already banned from having guns, are you saying if a person is on SS that they can't own a gun as well ? your right, he is an asshole.

Godfather.

Gern Blansten

Godfather. said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Wow, what a horrible idea. Keep guns out of the hands of the incompetent, drug users, mentally disabled, and felons. What A asshole.

those people are already banned from having guns, are you saying if a person is on SS that they can't own a gun as well ? your right, he is an asshole.

Godfather.

did you even read your own post?

Godfather.

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Wow, what a horrible idea. Keep guns out of the hands of the incompetent, drug users, mentally disabled, and felons. What A asshole.

those people are already banned from having guns, are you saying if a person is on SS that they can't own a gun as well ? your right, he is an asshole.

Godfather.

did you even read your own post?

yes the point is this is only the start of that crap, now if I start to collect SS I will be investigated for my legally regestered gun right ?
I shouldn't complain....who want's a gun the government knows about anyway.

Godfather.

Gern Blansten

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Wow, what a horrible idea. Keep guns out of the hands of the incompetent, drug users, mentally disabled, and felons. What A asshole.

those people are already banned from having guns, are you saying if a person is on SS that they can't own a gun as well ? your right, he is an asshole.

Godfather.

did you even read your own post?

yes the point is this is only the start of that crap, now if I start to collect SS I will be investigated for my legally regestered gun right ?
I shouldn't complain....who want's a gun the government knows about anyway.

Godfather.

So you are telling us that you are fall under the condition that YOU listed?

"marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease”

I'm sorry but if that's the case you shouldn't be able to purchase a gun.

Godfather.

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Wow, what a horrible idea. Keep guns out of the hands of the incompetent, drug users, mentally disabled, and felons. What A asshole.

those people are already banned from having guns, are you saying if a person is on SS that they can't own a gun as well ? your right, he is an asshole.

Godfather.

did you even read your own post?

yes the point is this is only the start of that crap, now if I start to collect SS I will be investigated for my legally regestered gun right ?
I shouldn't complain....who want's a gun the government knows about anyway.

Godfather.

So you are telling us that you are fall under the condition that YOU listed?

"marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease”

I'm sorry but if that's the case you shouldn't be able to purchase a gun.

dude ! he said people on SS who.....thats like saying black people who are on SS..... can't own a gun
can't you see the where that would go ?


Godfather.

InHiding80

Another idiot who believes that the 2nd amendment begins and ends with right to bear arms. Read the goddamn article, birther racist jackass. It's not so black and white.

mickeyrat

Godfather. said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah...keeping mentally disabled people from owning guns is bad.

The Gern Blansten

but obama doen't want our guns right........

Godfather.

So what you are saying is , you aren't competent?

callen

Godfather. said:

little by little gun rights are being restricted and everybody just keeps drinking the cool-aid.
how about the stories about these welfare folks using guns ? are they next to lose thier right to own a gun ? that's it folks just keep dringing the cool-aid....uncle obama will make everything better....he's a idiot.

Godfather.

Gun rights expanded in my state.

mickeyrat

callen said:

Godfather. said:

little by little gun rights are being restricted and everybody just keeps drinking the cool-aid.
how about the stories about these welfare folks using guns ? are they next to lose thier right to own a gun ? that's it folks just keep dringing the cool-aid....uncle obama will make everything better....he's a idiot.

Godfather.

Gun rights expanded in my state.

Mine too. And it was REALLY nonrestrictive to begin with.

PJ_Soul

Godfather. said:

this president is a asshat, obama needs to move his stupid ass back to kenya.

Godfather.

Why in the fuck do you say he should move his ass back to a place he's never even lived?
What is this obsession some people have with him and Kenya? Makes no sense at all. Seems racist. Seems anti-everything. If Obama should move his ass back to Kenya, then it's just as reasonable to say that you should move your ass back to wherever your ancestors are from, since I'm pretty sure you're not Native American.

Godfather.

PJ_soul, it just seem like the farthest place away as long as he's gone I don't give a shit where he goes, fuck him.

Godfather.

Gern Blansten

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Godfather. said:

PJ_soul, it just seem like the farthest place away as long as he's gone I don't give a shit where he goes, fuck him.

Godfather.

Don't fret....he'll only be in office for another 18 months or so. Then you'll get 8 years of Hillary so hang in there man.

The Gern Blansten

callen

Yeah Hilliard gets in there and heads will explode. Ha. Good chance.

Godfather.

Gern Blansten said:

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Godfather. said:

PJ_soul, it just seem like the farthest place away as long as he's gone I don't give a shit where he goes, fuck him.

Godfather.

Don't fret....he'll only be in office for another 18 months or so. Then you'll get 8 years of Hillary so hang in there man.

The Gern Blansten

HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHA dang out of the pan and into the fire.

Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Godfather. said:

this president is a asshat, obama needs to move his stupid ass back to kenya.

Godfather.

The Obama administration wants to keep people collecting Social Security benefits from owning guns if it is determined they are unable to manage their own affairs, the Los Angeles Times reported.

The push, which could potentially affect millions whose monthly disability payments are handled by others, is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws that prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the United States illegally, and others, according to the paper.

The language of federal gun laws restricts ownership to people who are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease” – which could potentially affect a large group within Social Security, the LA Times reported.

If Social Security, which has never taken part in the background check system, uses the same standard as the Department of Veterans Affairs – which is the idea floated – then millions of beneficiaries could be affected, with about 4.2 million adults receiving monthly benefits that are managed by “representative payees.”

The latest move is part of the efforts by President Obama to strengthen gun control following the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in 2012.

Critics are blasting the plan, saying that expanding the list of people who cannot own guns based on financial competence is wrongheaded.

The ban, they argue, would keep guns out of the hands of some dangerous people, but would also include people who simply have a bad memory or have a hard time balancing a checkbook.

The background check for gun ownership started in 1993 by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, named after White House Press Secretary James Brady, who was partially paralyzed after being shot in the 1981 assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan.

Gun stores are required to run the names of potential buyers through a computerized system before every sale.

Click for the full story from the Los Angeles Times.

Your 1st statement is blatantly racist- not to mention slightly comical presented with grammar structures that rival that of a slightly less than average 4 year old.

Sorry, man. Up until this point in time, I've hung in there with you; however your homophobic and racial attitudes reflect such a need for reform that I don't think I can take you seriously any more.

Is this a joke? Really uncool.

benjs

rr165892 said:

GF,you know I fall right of center and I'm also gun owner with a CCP license.But I am also aware that we need to strengthen our resolve when it comes to who gets guns ,at least legally.
Who cares if there is more backround checks? If your legit,you should have no issue.No one is asking for an inventory of your arsenal.
When 1 idiot tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb,all of us paid for it by having to ridiculously take shoes off when getting on a plane.ONE GUY,ONE TIME.
So know we have multiple mass shootings of hundreds of innocent victims,including kids and families.We have done nothing!!!!! Not one fucking thing.Any gun owner who is responsible should have no issue with making it tougher for those who want to acquire,Espescially illegal immigrants and those already relying on the entitlements of the government tit.They should be more concerned with buying milk,books and clothes not Bullets and Guns.

First, see link for the full article.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-gun-law-20150718-story.html

I don't think GF explained himself well here (at all) - sorry, GF. If he's saying what I think he is, I completely agree with him (with the exception of the infantile name-calling of the President).



This law, if I understand it correctly, models its background checks on the Department of Veteran Affairs' background checks. In this, it stipulates that anyone who is incapable of handling their own financial affairs would be ineligible for the service requested. The way of checking this is by determining whether a person is able, him or herself, to collect Social Security on a regular basis (without a representative sent on his or her behalf).

Social Security is for those who are retired, disabled in a way, shape or form, or unemployed. The question at hand is really simple. Are there legitimate reasons why one might not want to or be able to collect his or her own Social Security regularly and/or assign someone else to do it for him or herself, but should still be deemed eligible to carry a weapon?

If there are none, then this is an effective background check.

If there are some, then this is an ineffective background check, as it prohibits some who should not be prohibited from carrying a weapon.

Really not much more to it than that.