obama not after your guns ?

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I just wasted a whole minute or so reading all the post since my last.........good grief, it seems that all I have to do is fall in line with the "obey" frame of mind and I'll be just like you guy's........HAHHAHHHAH when hell freezes over, calling the president names -GUILTY ! attacking train members with names and other shit -nope !

    have a nice day
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    so close.....now if we can just get him stay there......
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/22/security-breach-kenyan-airline-official-leaks-obama-exact-itinerary/?intcmp=latestnews

    LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Godfather.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited July 2015
    imalive said:

    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:

    Though some may not agree with GF he's pretty cool and generally rolls with the punches. Though I'm big opponent of lifetime bans can see how some kept pushing when asked to chill. GF not one of those. And just look at the colorful threads he's created and kept going. GF Is an institution and so glad he's here along with you.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388

    mickeyrat said:

    cover your own ass?
    off topic kinda but who do you guys think is responsible for selling more guns and ammunition....liberal politicians that say they're going to introduce restrictive legislation, or conservative politicians that say the liberals are coming for guns you better stock up?

    That's an easy one...they did this same crap when Clinton was president. Scare the rednecks into thinking the gubmint is goin ta git yer gunz and it never happens....ever....yet they keep saying it over and over.

    Edit: I still can't believe people put up the whole "being able to fight off tyranny" mantra regarding the need to have multiple guns. As if they will be any match for drones and tactical nukes.
    GOP sells that brsnd of fear. Dems another kind.
    it's better to have a gun and not need it rather than need a gun and not have it.


    Godfather.

    Disagree. If you have a gun in your home you increase your odds of someone in your family being injured or killed by gun and some criminal breaking I to your home and steeling it.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

    Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    imalive said:

    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:

    Though some may not agree with GF he's pretty cool and generally rolls with the punches. Though I'm big opponent of lifetime bans can see how some kept pushing when asked to chill. GF not one of those. And just look at the colorful threads he's created and kept going. GF Is an institution and so glad he's here along with you.
    thanks' Bro.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

    Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.

    no guns = less deaths, agreed but I wouls also say gun deaths are less than drug, auto and some other weapon deaths like hammers and knives and the gun has played a key roll in the history of the United States and most every country in the world as far as keeping the peace and freedom from being take naway...but without guns at all in history who knows how the world would be,,maybe more peaceful ? maybe not ? humans seem to have a need to kill to settle disputes (not in general) but signs of killing are found all over the world that date back long before guns, as early as the first known (recorded) humans evidence of killing one another for verious reasons has been found so blamming guns for killing is not the answer for me, we the people are the ultimate killing weapon and it seems to have been that way since we have had to learn to survive and we have become experts at killing even without a gun and that's where the real shame lays, us not our guns.

    Godfather.

  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196

    I can't believe people actually take godfoxer serious enough to try and reason with him, to debate him, and attempt to alert him to reality.

    Give it up. :anguished:

    Based on his reponses I don't take it seriously, but I don't mind if he keeps invalidating his own argument by presenting no reasonable position.
    good for you, how do not understand ? I have said twice that obamas admin stated PEOPLE ON SS.. .. and that is just opening the door to restricting people from owning guns because of thier age, what part of that do not understand ? it was a simple fucking statement, what if he had said black or brown people who can't control thier affairs can't own a gun...what would you think about that ?
    or was it my obama name calling that got you and everybody else in a tizzy ?

    Godfather.

    Hey GF, remember when you said you liked one of my signatures
    ......politics is merely the decoy of perception Well if the President said PEOPLE ON SOCIAL SECURITY...that's just a perception, just words a politician has blurted out. You know politicians spout out BS everyday that's what they do. The key here to me is not what he says but reading what the proposed bill/law ACTUALLY says. I'd put more credence into what the bill says than what comes out of President's or ANY POLITICIAN'S mouth.

    Peace
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    g under p said:

    I can't believe people actually take godfoxer serious enough to try and reason with him, to debate him, and attempt to alert him to reality.

    Give it up. :anguished:

    Based on his reponses I don't take it seriously, but I don't mind if he keeps invalidating his own argument by presenting no reasonable position.
    good for you, how do not understand ? I have said twice that obamas admin stated PEOPLE ON SS.. .. and that is just opening the door to restricting people from owning guns because of thier age, what part of that do not understand ? it was a simple fucking statement, what if he had said black or brown people who can't control thier affairs can't own a gun...what would you think about that ?
    or was it my obama name calling that got you and everybody else in a tizzy ?

    Godfather.

    Hey GF, remember when you said you liked one of my signatures
    ......politics is merely the decoy of perception Well if the President said PEOPLE ON SOCIAL SECURITY...that's just a perception, just words a politician has blurted out. You know politicians spout out BS everyday that's what they do. The key here to me is not what he says but reading what the proposed bill/law ACTUALLY says. I'd put more credence into what the bill says than what comes out of President's or ANY POLITICIAN'S mouth.

    Peace
    your right......."just cause I'm paranoid dosen't mean nothings going on" LOL!!!!!!

    Godfather.

  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    callen said:

    imalive said:

    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:

    Though some may not agree with GF he's pretty cool and generally rolls with the punches. Though I'm big opponent of lifetime bans can see how some kept pushing when asked to chill. GF not one of those. And just look at the colorful threads he's created and kept going. GF Is an institution and so glad he's here along with you.
    I wholeheartedly agree with this. Bans of any kind should be a last resort and no one should get perma-banned for a first offense. Godfather is willing to stick to his guns and take a beating - no matter how laughable some of us may find his positions - and for that he deserves respect.

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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    JimmyV said:

    callen said:

    imalive said:

    he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

    how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other :tired_face:

    Though some may not agree with GF he's pretty cool and generally rolls with the punches. Though I'm big opponent of lifetime bans can see how some kept pushing when asked to chill. GF not one of those. And just look at the colorful threads he's created and kept going. GF Is an institution and so glad he's here along with you.
    I wholeheartedly agree with this. Bans of any kind should be a last resort and no one should get perma-banned for a first offense. Godfather is willing to stick to his guns and take a beating - no matter how laughable some of us may find his positions - and for that he deserves respect.

    Very true.

    Sometimes I would actually like to see him back up some of his positions though.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    Guessing the owner of this home wasn't on SSI . Wonder who their source for news was?

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/More-Than-1200-Guns-2-Tons-of-Ammo-Seized-From-West-LA-Home-317730131.html#
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845

    callen said:

    So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

    Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.

    no guns = less deaths, agreed but I wouls also say gun deaths are less than drug, auto and some other weapon deaths like hammers and knives and the gun has played a key roll in the history of the United States and most every country in the world as far as keeping the peace and freedom from being take naway...but without guns at all in history who knows how the world would be,,maybe more peaceful ? maybe not ? humans seem to have a need to kill to settle disputes (not in general) but signs of killing are found all over the world that date back long before guns, as early as the first known (recorded) humans evidence of killing one another for verious reasons has been found so blamming guns for killing is not the answer for me, we the people are the ultimate killing weapon and it seems to have been that way since we have had to learn to survive and we have become experts at killing even without a gun and that's where the real shame lays, us not our guns.

    Godfather.

    GF, you posted your supposition that deaths from hammers and knives are greater than gun deaths in another thread previously but you are way off base on this; gun deaths far outnumber knife and blunt weapons deaths by about 4:1. Now auto deaths are interesting - the general trend for auto deaths is declining over decades, while the trend for gun deaths is increasing, and in fact in 11 states gun deaths outnumber auto deaths.

    Drug deaths vs. gun deaths is complicated, since guns are intrinsically involved in the drug trade.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    callen said:

    So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

    Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.

    no guns = less deaths, agreed but I wouls also say gun deaths are less than drug, auto and some other weapon deaths like hammers and knives and the gun has played a key roll in the history of the United States and most every country in the world as far as keeping the peace and freedom from being take naway...but without guns at all in history who knows how the world would be,,maybe more peaceful ? maybe not ? humans seem to have a need to kill to settle disputes (not in general) but signs of killing are found all over the world that date back long before guns, as early as the first known (recorded) humans evidence of killing one another for verious reasons has been found so blamming guns for killing is not the answer for me, we the people are the ultimate killing weapon and it seems to have been that way since we have had to learn to survive and we have become experts at killing even without a gun and that's where the real shame lays, us not our guns.

    Godfather.

    GF, you posted your supposition that deaths from hammers and knives are greater than gun deaths in another thread previously but you are way off base on this; gun deaths far outnumber knife and blunt weapons deaths by about 4:1. Now auto deaths are interesting - the general trend for auto deaths is declining over decades, while the trend for gun deaths is increasing, and in fact in 11 states gun deaths outnumber auto deaths.

    Drug deaths vs. gun deaths is complicated, since guns are intrinsically involved in the drug trade.
    lord I can't stand it when someone knows what they're talking about LOL !!!! thanks for the heads up man.

    Godfather.

  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845

    callen said:

    So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

    Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.

    no guns = less deaths, agreed but I wouls also say gun deaths are less than drug, auto and some other weapon deaths like hammers and knives and the gun has played a key roll in the history of the United States and most every country in the world as far as keeping the peace and freedom from being take naway...but without guns at all in history who knows how the world would be,,maybe more peaceful ? maybe not ? humans seem to have a need to kill to settle disputes (not in general) but signs of killing are found all over the world that date back long before guns, as early as the first known (recorded) humans evidence of killing one another for verious reasons has been found so blamming guns for killing is not the answer for me, we the people are the ultimate killing weapon and it seems to have been that way since we have had to learn to survive and we have become experts at killing even without a gun and that's where the real shame lays, us not our guns.

    Godfather.

    GF, you posted your supposition that deaths from hammers and knives are greater than gun deaths in another thread previously but you are way off base on this; gun deaths far outnumber knife and blunt weapons deaths by about 4:1. Now auto deaths are interesting - the general trend for auto deaths is declining over decades, while the trend for gun deaths is increasing, and in fact in 11 states gun deaths outnumber auto deaths.

    Drug deaths vs. gun deaths is complicated, since guns are intrinsically involved in the drug trade.
    lord I can't stand it when someone knows what they're talking about LOL !!!! thanks for the heads up man.

    Godfather.

    No problem.

    The more interesting point is why auto deaths are decreasing. They are steadily on the decline because all involved parties are on the same page in actively working to make them decrease, from the auto engineers to the city planners to the highway designers to the legislators, who have enacted things like seat belt laws. Think what we could accomplish on gun deaths if all parties would work together on it.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    mickeyrat said:

    Guessing the owner of this home wasn't on SSI . Wonder who their source for news was?

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/More-Than-1200-Guns-2-Tons-of-Ammo-Seized-From-West-LA-Home-317730131.html#

    No one?

    1200 guns and 2 TONS of ammo in a single family home?
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Guessing the owner of this home wasn't on SSI . Wonder who their source for news was?

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/More-Than-1200-Guns-2-Tons-of-Ammo-Seized-From-West-LA-Home-317730131.html#

    No one?

    1200 guns and 2 TONS of ammo in a single family home?
    I read that yesterday, now thats a passion for guns ! I haven't heard how he died yet.
    you guys would be suprised how many people have gun collections in california that arnt as big as this one but pretty big.
    there a lot of people storing amo,buying it on line or as much as thy can at the gun shops and Arizona has huge population of guns and amo.

    Godfather.

  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Guessing the owner of this home wasn't on SSI . Wonder who their source for news was?

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/More-Than-1200-Guns-2-Tons-of-Ammo-Seized-From-West-LA-Home-317730131.html#

    No one?

    1200 guns and 2 TONS of ammo in a single family home?
    I read that yesterday, now thats a passion for guns ! I haven't heard how he died yet.
    you guys would be suprised how many people have gun collections in california that arnt as big as this one but pretty big.
    there a lot of people storing amo,buying it on line or as much as thy can at the gun shops and Arizona has huge population of guns and amo.

    Godfather.

    What a bunch of paranoid weirdos.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    PJ_Soul said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Guessing the owner of this home wasn't on SSI . Wonder who their source for news was?

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/More-Than-1200-Guns-2-Tons-of-Ammo-Seized-From-West-LA-Home-317730131.html#

    No one?

    1200 guns and 2 TONS of ammo in a single family home?
    I read that yesterday, now thats a passion for guns ! I haven't heard how he died yet.
    you guys would be suprised how many people have gun collections in california that arnt as big as this one but pretty big.
    there a lot of people storing amo,buying it on line or as much as thy can at the gun shops and Arizona has huge population of guns and amo.

    Godfather.

    What a bunch of paranoid weirdos.
    GF calls it "passion".
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    callen said:

    So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

    Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.

    no guns = less deaths, agreed but I wouls also say gun deaths are less than drug, auto and some other weapon deaths like hammers and knives and the gun has played a key roll in the history of the United States and most every country in the world as far as keeping the peace and freedom from being take naway...but without guns at all in history who knows how the world would be,,maybe more peaceful ? maybe not ? humans seem to have a need to kill to settle disputes (not in general) but signs of killing are found all over the world that date back long before guns, as early as the first known (recorded) humans evidence of killing one another for verious reasons has been found so blamming guns for killing is not the answer for me, we the people are the ultimate killing weapon and it seems to have been that way since we have had to learn to survive and we have become experts at killing even without a gun and that's where the real shame lays, us not our guns.

    Godfather.

    GF, you posted your supposition that deaths from hammers and knives are greater than gun deaths in another thread previously but you are way off base on this; gun deaths far outnumber knife and blunt weapons deaths by about 4:1. Now auto deaths are interesting - the general trend for auto deaths is declining over decades, while the trend for gun deaths is increasing, and in fact in 11 states gun deaths outnumber auto deaths.

    Drug deaths vs. gun deaths is complicated, since guns are intrinsically involved in the drug trade.
    lord I can't stand it when someone knows what they're talking about LOL !!!! thanks for the heads up man.

    Godfather.

    No problem.

    The more interesting point is why auto deaths are decreasing. They are steadily on the decline because all involved parties are on the same page in actively working to make them decrease, from the auto engineers to the city planners to the highway designers to the legislators, who have enacted things like seat belt laws. Think what we could accomplish on gun deaths if all parties would work together on it.
    Hmmmm so licensing, registration, insurance, and safety protocols save lives? Who knew? The NRA sure doesn't!
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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    No matter what your level of passion about firearms.2 tons of ammo is like a National Gaurd Armory! May be a tad on the hoarder side.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rr165892 said:

    No matter what your level of passion about firearms.2 tons of ammo is like a National Gaurd Armory! May be a tad on the hoarder side.

    agreed, hahhahhha and there are some weirdo's out there and there are people that just like guns and the history of guns.

    Godfather.

  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    let me get this straight.

    a guy own a .45 and thinks the government is going to come take it. the government has attack helicopters with sidewinder missiles. good luck dude.

    if everyone wants to have their guns so badly, move to louisiana. the state with the most lax gun laws. also statistically the most likely state where someone will die by gunshot.

    coincidence?

    they have the constitutional amendment that the nra wanted.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,501
    edited July 2015

    let me get this straight.

    a guy own a .45 and thinks the government is going to come take it. the government has attack helicopters with sidewinder missiles. good luck dude.

    if everyone wants to have their guns so badly, move to louisiana. the state with the most lax gun laws. also statistically the most likely state where someone will die by gunshot.

    coincidence?

    they have the constitutional amendment that the nra wanted.

    FYI: louisiana is probably around 7th or 8th in terms of lax gun laws according to the brady campaign. arizona has the most lax gun laws in the united states.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    mcgruff10 said:

    let me get this straight.

    a guy own a .45 and thinks the government is going to come take it. the government has attack helicopters with sidewinder missiles. good luck dude.

    if everyone wants to have their guns so badly, move to louisiana. the state with the most lax gun laws. also statistically the most likely state where someone will die by gunshot.

    coincidence?

    they have the constitutional amendment that the nra wanted.

    FYI: louisiana is probably around 7th or 8th in terms of lax gun laws according to the brady campaign. arizona has the most lax gun laws in the united states.
    Ohio has to rank as well.
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    Where's south Carolina? She's gotta be a top 5.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    hopefull nobama will be out before he can stir up anymore gun babble.....

    Godfather.
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196

    hopefull nobama will be out before he can stir up anymore gun babble.....

    Godfather.

    No worries, as with EVERY OTHER president no matter how much babble you may hear it won't change any gun reform in this country. This country love it's guns and what they can way too much to change much of anything. Rest easy ALL will be well no matter what Fox says the president is babbling.

    Peace

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