obama not after your guns ?

JimmyV

callen said:

imalive said:

he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other

Though some may not agree with GF he's pretty cool and generally rolls with the punches. Though I'm big opponent of lifetime bans can see how some kept pushing when asked to chill. GF not one of those. And just look at the colorful threads he's created and kept going. GF Is an institution and so glad he's here along with you.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. Bans of any kind should be a last resort and no one should get perma-banned for a first offense. Godfather is willing to stick to his guns and take a beating - no matter how laughable some of us may find his positions - and for that he deserves respect.

Smellyman

JimmyV said:

callen said:

imalive said:

he's not after mine...I don't own any...I don't need to "compensate."

how come godfather is not banned? he can call the prez an asshat and call for him to move back to kenya, yet some of us get banned for kidding with each other

Though some may not agree with GF he's pretty cool and generally rolls with the punches. Though I'm big opponent of lifetime bans can see how some kept pushing when asked to chill. GF not one of those. And just look at the colorful threads he's created and kept going. GF Is an institution and so glad he's here along with you.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. Bans of any kind should be a last resort and no one should get perma-banned for a first offense. Godfather is willing to stick to his guns and take a beating - no matter how laughable some of us may find his positions - and for that he deserves respect.

Very true.

Sometimes I would actually like to see him back up some of his positions though.

Not post links and run. (and sometimes even omitting the links)

mickeyrat

Guessing the owner of this home wasn't on SSI . Wonder who their source for news was?

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/More-Than-1200-Guns-2-Tons-of-Ammo-Seized-From-West-LA-Home-317730131.html#

oftenreading

Godfather. said:

callen said:

So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.

no guns = less deaths, agreed but I wouls also say gun deaths are less than drug, auto and some other weapon deaths like hammers and knives and the gun has played a key roll in the history of the United States and most every country in the world as far as keeping the peace and freedom from being take naway...but without guns at all in history who knows how the world would be,,maybe more peaceful ? maybe not ? humans seem to have a need to kill to settle disputes (not in general) but signs of killing are found all over the world that date back long before guns, as early as the first known (recorded) humans evidence of killing one another for verious reasons has been found so blamming guns for killing is not the answer for me, we the people are the ultimate killing weapon and it seems to have been that way since we have had to learn to survive and we have become experts at killing even without a gun and that's where the real shame lays, us not our guns.

Godfather.

GF, you posted your supposition that deaths from hammers and knives are greater than gun deaths in another thread previously but you are way off base on this; gun deaths far outnumber knife and blunt weapons deaths by about 4:1. Now auto deaths are interesting - the general trend for auto deaths is declining over decades, while the trend for gun deaths is increasing, and in fact in 11 states gun deaths outnumber auto deaths.

Drug deaths vs. gun deaths is complicated, since guns are intrinsically involved in the drug trade.

Godfather.

oftenreading said:

Godfather. said:

callen said:

So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.

no guns = less deaths, agreed but I wouls also say gun deaths are less than drug, auto and some other weapon deaths like hammers and knives and the gun has played a key roll in the history of the United States and most every country in the world as far as keeping the peace and freedom from being take naway...but without guns at all in history who knows how the world would be,,maybe more peaceful ? maybe not ? humans seem to have a need to kill to settle disputes (not in general) but signs of killing are found all over the world that date back long before guns, as early as the first known (recorded) humans evidence of killing one another for verious reasons has been found so blamming guns for killing is not the answer for me, we the people are the ultimate killing weapon and it seems to have been that way since we have had to learn to survive and we have become experts at killing even without a gun and that's where the real shame lays, us not our guns.

Godfather.

GF, you posted your supposition that deaths from hammers and knives are greater than gun deaths in another thread previously but you are way off base on this; gun deaths far outnumber knife and blunt weapons deaths by about 4:1. Now auto deaths are interesting - the general trend for auto deaths is declining over decades, while the trend for gun deaths is increasing, and in fact in 11 states gun deaths outnumber auto deaths.

Drug deaths vs. gun deaths is complicated, since guns are intrinsically involved in the drug trade.

lord I can't stand it when someone knows what they're talking about LOL !!!! thanks for the heads up man.

Godfather.

oftenreading

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Godfather. said:

callen said:

So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.

no guns = less deaths, agreed but I wouls also say gun deaths are less than drug, auto and some other weapon deaths like hammers and knives and the gun has played a key roll in the history of the United States and most every country in the world as far as keeping the peace and freedom from being take naway...but without guns at all in history who knows how the world would be,,maybe more peaceful ? maybe not ? humans seem to have a need to kill to settle disputes (not in general) but signs of killing are found all over the world that date back long before guns, as early as the first known (recorded) humans evidence of killing one another for verious reasons has been found so blamming guns for killing is not the answer for me, we the people are the ultimate killing weapon and it seems to have been that way since we have had to learn to survive and we have become experts at killing even without a gun and that's where the real shame lays, us not our guns.

Godfather.

GF, you posted your supposition that deaths from hammers and knives are greater than gun deaths in another thread previously but you are way off base on this; gun deaths far outnumber knife and blunt weapons deaths by about 4:1. Now auto deaths are interesting - the general trend for auto deaths is declining over decades, while the trend for gun deaths is increasing, and in fact in 11 states gun deaths outnumber auto deaths.

Drug deaths vs. gun deaths is complicated, since guns are intrinsically involved in the drug trade.

lord I can't stand it when someone knows what they're talking about LOL !!!! thanks for the heads up man.

Godfather.

No problem.

The more interesting point is why auto deaths are decreasing. They are steadily on the decline because all involved parties are on the same page in actively working to make them decrease, from the auto engineers to the city planners to the highway designers to the legislators, who have enacted things like seat belt laws. Think what we could accomplish on gun deaths if all parties would work together on it.

mickeyrat

mickeyrat said:

Guessing the owner of this home wasn't on SSI . Wonder who their source for news was?

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/More-Than-1200-Guns-2-Tons-of-Ammo-Seized-From-West-LA-Home-317730131.html#

No one?

1200 guns and 2 TONS of ammo in a single family home?

Godfather.

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

Guessing the owner of this home wasn't on SSI . Wonder who their source for news was?

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/More-Than-1200-Guns-2-Tons-of-Ammo-Seized-From-West-LA-Home-317730131.html#

No one?

1200 guns and 2 TONS of ammo in a single family home?

I read that yesterday, now thats a passion for guns ! I haven't heard how he died yet.
you guys would be suprised how many people have gun collections in california that arnt as big as this one but pretty big.
there a lot of people storing amo,buying it on line or as much as thy can at the gun shops and Arizona has huge population of guns and amo.

Godfather.

PJ_Soul

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

Guessing the owner of this home wasn't on SSI . Wonder who their source for news was?

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/More-Than-1200-Guns-2-Tons-of-Ammo-Seized-From-West-LA-Home-317730131.html#

No one?

1200 guns and 2 TONS of ammo in a single family home?

I read that yesterday, now thats a passion for guns ! I haven't heard how he died yet.
you guys would be suprised how many people have gun collections in california that arnt as big as this one but pretty big.
there a lot of people storing amo,buying it on line or as much as thy can at the gun shops and Arizona has huge population of guns and amo.

Godfather.

What a bunch of paranoid weirdos.

Smellyman

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

Guessing the owner of this home wasn't on SSI . Wonder who their source for news was?

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/More-Than-1200-Guns-2-Tons-of-Ammo-Seized-From-West-LA-Home-317730131.html#

No one?

1200 guns and 2 TONS of ammo in a single family home?

I read that yesterday, now thats a passion for guns ! I haven't heard how he died yet.
you guys would be suprised how many people have gun collections in california that arnt as big as this one but pretty big.
there a lot of people storing amo,buying it on line or as much as thy can at the gun shops and Arizona has huge population of guns and amo.

Godfather.

What a bunch of paranoid weirdos.

GF calls it "passion".

rgambs

oftenreading said:

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Godfather. said:

callen said:

So comes down to all the reasons a person may need assistance with SS benefits. Not sure there's a defined list. So because of that agree with GF that this may not be the best way to weed out incapable irresponsible gun owners.

Now in my utopia all guns would be made illegal. Govt pay fair value maybe little extra and then caught carrying felony with minimum. Oh how deaths would go down.

no guns = less deaths, agreed but I wouls also say gun deaths are less than drug, auto and some other weapon deaths like hammers and knives and the gun has played a key roll in the history of the United States and most every country in the world as far as keeping the peace and freedom from being take naway...but without guns at all in history who knows how the world would be,,maybe more peaceful ? maybe not ? humans seem to have a need to kill to settle disputes (not in general) but signs of killing are found all over the world that date back long before guns, as early as the first known (recorded) humans evidence of killing one another for verious reasons has been found so blamming guns for killing is not the answer for me, we the people are the ultimate killing weapon and it seems to have been that way since we have had to learn to survive and we have become experts at killing even without a gun and that's where the real shame lays, us not our guns.

Godfather.

GF, you posted your supposition that deaths from hammers and knives are greater than gun deaths in another thread previously but you are way off base on this; gun deaths far outnumber knife and blunt weapons deaths by about 4:1. Now auto deaths are interesting - the general trend for auto deaths is declining over decades, while the trend for gun deaths is increasing, and in fact in 11 states gun deaths outnumber auto deaths.

Drug deaths vs. gun deaths is complicated, since guns are intrinsically involved in the drug trade.

lord I can't stand it when someone knows what they're talking about LOL !!!! thanks for the heads up man.

Godfather.

No problem.

The more interesting point is why auto deaths are decreasing. They are steadily on the decline because all involved parties are on the same page in actively working to make them decrease, from the auto engineers to the city planners to the highway designers to the legislators, who have enacted things like seat belt laws. Think what we could accomplish on gun deaths if all parties would work together on it.

Hmmmm so licensing, registration, insurance, and safety protocols save lives? Who knew? The NRA sure doesn't!

rr165892

No matter what your level of passion about firearms.2 tons of ammo is like a National Gaurd Armory! May be a tad on the hoarder side.

Godfather.

rr165892 said:

No matter what your level of passion about firearms.2 tons of ammo is like a National Gaurd Armory! May be a tad on the hoarder side.

agreed, hahhahhha and there are some weirdo's out there and there are people that just like guns and the history of guns.

Godfather.

gimmesometruth27

let me get this straight.

a guy own a .45 and thinks the government is going to come take it. the government has attack helicopters with sidewinder missiles. good luck dude.

if everyone wants to have their guns so badly, move to louisiana. the state with the most lax gun laws. also statistically the most likely state where someone will die by gunshot.

coincidence?

they have the constitutional amendment that the nra wanted.

mcgruff10

gimmesometruth27 said:

let me get this straight.

a guy own a .45 and thinks the government is going to come take it. the government has attack helicopters with sidewinder missiles. good luck dude.

if everyone wants to have their guns so badly, move to louisiana. the state with the most lax gun laws. also statistically the most likely state where someone will die by gunshot.

coincidence?

they have the constitutional amendment that the nra wanted.

FYI: louisiana is probably around 7th or 8th in terms of lax gun laws according to the brady campaign. arizona has the most lax gun laws in the united states.

mickeyrat

mcgruff10 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

let me get this straight.

a guy own a .45 and thinks the government is going to come take it. the government has attack helicopters with sidewinder missiles. good luck dude.

if everyone wants to have their guns so badly, move to louisiana. the state with the most lax gun laws. also statistically the most likely state where someone will die by gunshot.

coincidence?

they have the constitutional amendment that the nra wanted.

FYI: louisiana is probably around 7th or 8th in terms of lax gun laws according to the brady campaign. arizona has the most lax gun laws in the united states.

Ohio has to rank as well.

Last-12-Exit

Where's south Carolina? She's gotta be a top 5.

Godfather.

hopefull nobama will be out before he can stir up anymore gun babble.....

Godfather.

Godfather.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbnwA1v_5No

g under p

Godfather. said:

hopefull nobama will be out before he can stir up anymore gun babble.....

Godfather.

No worries, as with EVERY OTHER president no matter how much babble you may hear it won't change any gun reform in this country. This country love it's guns and what they can way too much to change much of anything. Rest easy ALL will be well no matter what Fox says the president is babbling.

Peace