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I wondered why they would have the AC running with snow on the roof. Could see it happening though.Jason P said:Just to make it clear on my since deleted cat gif ... that wasn't real. It was from the TV show Reno 911.
Sorry if I offended anyone.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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What? I'm offended it wasn't real.Jason P said:Just to make it clear on my since deleted cat gif ... that wasn't real. It was from the TV show Reno 911.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
Edit: Wait? was it deleted? Or did you delete it? That gif was funny.
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I'm not alluding to that case as much as I am the multiple others where everyone quickly assumes the worst of the officer... and then it is revealed that they weren't as hostile as many eagerly made them out to be.Halifax2TheMax said:
What was Freddy Gray's crime again?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Stick their necks out there without fear because of the overwhelming support they have as they try and do an extremely difficult job?rgambs said:
Yeah, this schoolboy "I'm going home and I'm taking my ball with me" is not very mature. They are folding their arms and pouting to prove a point (which is indeed being proven) and lives are being lost.Cliffy6745 said:
Don't police departments that involve the community and clergy do best? Haven't we seen that in LA and other departments after major breakdowns of trust?callen said:Visualize clip of cats playing and watching ping pong.
Feel there is blame on both sides. So what are solutions?
Rather than packing up and leaving, working together seems to be the best solution. Protect and serve, not pack up and leave, right?
There are plenty of people in that community who want the cops and I am sure there are plenty of cops who want to help.
If this on line community is reflective of society, every time they encounter a challenging situation... if they don't handle it perfectly... people are poised with pitchforks ready to damn them.
The amount of patience and understanding for people engaged in unlawfulness compared to the level we afford police is disproportionate: they have a reason for rioting for (won't use 'thugs') unruly citizens seems to gain more support than he lost control and made bad decisions in a struggle for a cop dealing with a criminal unwilling to cooperate.
There are obviously brutal cases that demand justice and accountability; however, it seems as if there is a growing faction that wishes to make every case to hit the media circuit one where the cops are the bad guys no matter what the circumstances. Let's not deny this.
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I don't know why I'm bothering but I don't think paying out $6MM over 5 years is an instance of, "a growing faction that wishes to make every case hit the media circuit one where the cops are the bad guys no matter what the circumstances." In fact, I'm willing to bet that most of the cases mentioned in the Baltimore Sun report were quietly settled with no fan fare, press coverage and violations of non-disclosure agreements resulting in diminished payouts. Talk about creating an environment where the police can't, and shouldn't, be respected. Let's not deny that the cops in Baltimore are responsible for the environment that they operate in, in part by the course of their actions.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2015/06/11/maybe-throw-rock-cvs-too/GQrIV5WLBiePuRUzSeyrtN/story.html?p1=feature_stack_6_hp
I'm not alluding to that case as much as I am the multiple others where everyone quickly assumes the worst of the officer... and then it is revealed that they weren't as hostile as many eagerly made them out to be.
If you're not alluding to the Freddie Gray case, which cases are you alluding to?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Well there was Tamir Rice and John Crawford who were shot on camera with toy guns and were not given the opportunity to comply. There was the San Bernadino County Sheriff Deputy thugs who beat the man mercilessly as he lay face down surrendering. There was Rekia Boyd who was shot from a car by an off-duty police thug who went looking for trouble in the middle of the night. There was Michael Breelo who jumped onto the hood of the car in Cleveland and fired into the windshield at 2 dead people after hundreds of shots were already put in the car. Then there was Freddie Gray who was given the bumpy ride.Halifax2TheMax said:I don't know why I'm bothering but I don't think paying out $6MM over 5 years is an instance of, "a growing faction that wishes to make every case hit the media circuit one where the cops are the bad guys no matter what the circumstances." In fact, I'm willing to bet that most of the cases mentioned in the Baltimore Sun report were quietly settled with no fan fare, press coverage and violations of non-disclosure agreements resulting in diminished payouts. Talk about creating an environment where the police can't, and shouldn't, be respected. Let's not deny that the cops in Baltimore are responsible for the environment that they operate in, in part by the course of their actions.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2015/06/11/maybe-throw-rock-cvs-too/GQrIV5WLBiePuRUzSeyrtN/story.html?p1=feature_stack_6_hp
I'm not alluding to that case as much as I am the multiple others where everyone quickly assumes the worst of the officer... and then it is revealed that they weren't as hostile as many eagerly made them out to be.
If you're not alluding to the Freddie Gray case, which cases are you alluding to?
Not those cases, just the Michael Brown case.
And maybe the one in Wisconsin where an unarmed black man was shot after a "struggle" with no witnesses or corroborating evidence.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Oh yeah, the San Bernardino thugs...
Still collecting checks on paid administrative leave.
Consequences...there should be some.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Police departments and most companies settle out of court most of the time to keep whatever it is out of the media. Right or wrong. So that figure doesn't really say much.0
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Did you read the Baltimore Sun article?Last-12-Exit said:Police departments and most companies settle out of court most of the time to keep whatever it is out of the media. Right or wrong. So that figure doesn't really say much.
09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Yes. And?Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you read the Baltimore Sun article?Last-12-Exit said:Police departments and most companies settle out of court most of the time to keep whatever it is out of the media. Right or wrong. So that figure doesn't really say much.
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So $6MM in out of court settlements doesn't concern you? The injustices the complaintants suffered doesn't concern you? Respect the uni. I get where you're coming from now. Although I knew it earlier but just checking.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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As I said, most companies, including police department, will settle out of court most of the time. Right or wrong. I work for a company that is quasi owned by the state of South carolina, and my company would rather settle than go to court. So no, the $6 mil doesn't concern me.Halifax2TheMax said:So $6MM in out of court settlements doesn't concern you? The injustices the complaintants suffered doesn't concern you? Respect the uni. I get where you're coming from now. Although I knew it earlier but just checking.
What does concern me is the complete disregard for the police. Nationally. I've said before respect is earned on an individual level. But the profession itself requires some respect. Like it or not. You're not doing it. Somebody has to. Sometimes you get people in there that shouldn't be.
I give no credence to people when they choose to riot. It's not the cops fault they are rioting. Its the cops fault that most wanted to protest. Did the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore achieve anything? I'd say no. The media attention was there already before both riots.
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If I walked up to you and suckered punched you and broke your nose, how much would you sue me for?
If me and three of my friends accosted you in a store, pushed you down and beat the crap out of you, how much would you sue me for? How much time in jail would you expect me to serve?
Just wondering.
If a cop did it to you, what would you expect as recompsense?
"Complete" disregard for the police. Yea, right.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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If all you read about is the bad apples, your opinion will certainly be swayed. You read about the 2%. Just keep in mind that the other 98% do good. (Those number came from nowhere, hopefully you see my point.)Halifax2TheMax said:If I walked up to you and suckered punched you and broke your nose, how much would you sue me for?
If me and three of my friends accosted you in a store, pushed you down and beat the crap out of you, how much would you sue me for? How much time in jail would you expect me to serve?
Just wondering.
If a cop did it to you, what would you expect as recompsense?
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You realize that this country, the good 'ol US of A has a rich history of riots that precipitated and initiated social change, right? Mostly white thugs, right? Which side was South Carolina on during the civil war?Last-12-Exit said:
As I said, most companies, including police department, will settle out of court most of the time. Right or wrong. I work for a company that is quasi owned by the state of South carolina, and my company would rather settle than go to court. So no, the $6 mil doesn't concern me.Halifax2TheMax said:So $6MM in out of court settlements doesn't concern you? The injustices the complaintants suffered doesn't concern you? Respect the uni. I get where you're coming from now. Although I knew it earlier but just checking.
What does concern me is the complete disregard for the police. Nationally. I've said before respect is earned on an individual level. But the profession itself requires some respect. Like it or not. You're not doing it. Somebody has to. Sometimes you get people in there that shouldn't be.
I give no credence to people when they choose to riot. It's not the cops fault they are rioting. Its the cops fault that most wanted to protest. Did the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore achieve anything? I'd say no. The media attention was there already before both riots.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I love how you project what I think. I don't think all cops are bad just like I don't think all poor people are thugs. But to deny there is a major problem with the baltimore police department, you lose me there. And to think I should "respect" someone just for the work clothes they wear? Or any clothes? Talk about sheeple?Last-12-Exit said:
If all you read about is the bad apples, your opinion will certainly be swayed. You read about the 2%. Just keep in mind that the other 98% do good. (Those number came from nowhere, hopefully you see my point.)Halifax2TheMax said:If I walked up to you and suckered punched you and broke your nose, how much would you sue me for?
If me and three of my friends accosted you in a store, pushed you down and beat the crap out of you, how much would you sue me for? How much time in jail would you expect me to serve?
Just wondering.
If a cop did it to you, what would you expect as recompsense?
"Complete" disregard for the police. Yea, right.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I'm not sure what south Carolinas involvement in the civil war has to do with this, but to answer you, the losing side.Halifax2TheMax said:
You realize that this country, the good 'ol US of A has a rich history of riots that precipitated and initiated social change, right? Mostly white thugs, right? Which side was South Carolina on during the civil war?Last-12-Exit said:
As I said, most companies, including police department, will settle out of court most of the time. Right or wrong. I work for a company that is quasi owned by the state of South carolina, and my company would rather settle than go to court. So no, the $6 mil doesn't concern me.Halifax2TheMax said:So $6MM in out of court settlements doesn't concern you? The injustices the complaintants suffered doesn't concern you? Respect the uni. I get where you're coming from now. Although I knew it earlier but just checking.
What does concern me is the complete disregard for the police. Nationally. I've said before respect is earned on an individual level. But the profession itself requires some respect. Like it or not. You're not doing it. Somebody has to. Sometimes you get people in there that shouldn't be.
I give no credence to people when they choose to riot. It's not the cops fault they are rioting. Its the cops fault that most wanted to protest. Did the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore achieve anything? I'd say no. The media attention was there already before both riots.0 -
No, I didn't say for the clothes they wear. The profession itself deserves some respect just as you would respect your veterans. There are certainly bad cops out there. And Baltimore is no different. Your posts have done nothing but put down police departments. You don't single out bad cops, you have said that entire departments need overhauled.Halifax2TheMax said:
I love how you project what I think. I don't think all cops are bad just like I don't think all poor people are thugs. But to deny there is a major problem with the baltimore police department, you lose me there. And to think I should "respect" someone just for the work clothes they wear? Or any clothes? Talk about sheeple?Last-12-Exit said:
If all you read about is the bad apples, your opinion will certainly be swayed. You read about the 2%. Just keep in mind that the other 98% do good. (Those number came from nowhere, hopefully you see my point.)Halifax2TheMax said:If I walked up to you and suckered punched you and broke your nose, how much would you sue me for?
If me and three of my friends accosted you in a store, pushed you down and beat the crap out of you, how much would you sue me for? How much time in jail would you expect me to serve?
Just wondering.
If a cop did it to you, what would you expect as recompsense?
"Complete" disregard for the police. Yea, right.0 -
Do you respect Bo Bergdahl? For the uniform he wore? Again, just wondering.Last-12-Exit said:
No, I didn't say for the clothes they wear. The profession itself deserves some respect just as you would respect your veterans. There are certainly bad cops out there. And Baltimore is no different. Your posts have done nothing but put down police departments. You don't single out bad cops, you have said that entire departments need overhauled.Halifax2TheMax said:
I love how you project what I think. I don't think all cops are bad just like I don't think all poor people are thugs. But to deny there is a major problem with the baltimore police department, you lose me there. And to think I should "respect" someone just for the work clothes they wear? Or any clothes? Talk about sheeple?Last-12-Exit said:
If all you read about is the bad apples, your opinion will certainly be swayed. You read about the 2%. Just keep in mind that the other 98% do good. (Those number came from nowhere, hopefully you see my point.)Halifax2TheMax said:If I walked up to you and suckered punched you and broke your nose, how much would you sue me for?
If me and three of my friends accosted you in a store, pushed you down and beat the crap out of you, how much would you sue me for? How much time in jail would you expect me to serve?
Just wondering.
If a cop did it to you, what would you expect as recompsense?
"Complete" disregard for the police. Yea, right.
And yes, the entire Baltimore police department needs to be overhauled. As does Ferguson's. And Cleveland's. Boston, NYC, Texas that fired the barrel roll amped up guy? Not so much. LA has been though they could still use some work as could Philly. Denver, San Diego, etc. I'm not sure.
As to South Carolina? You're a product of your environment.
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I was born and raised in Northwest indiana. About 35 minutes south of chicago. Lived there for over 22 years. So no, I'm not anything like the most from the south.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you respect Bo Bergdahl? For the uniform he wore? Again, just wondering.Last-12-Exit said:
No, I didn't say for the clothes they wear. The profession itself deserves some respect just as you would respect your veterans. There are certainly bad cops out there. And Baltimore is no different. Your posts have done nothing but put down police departments. You don't single out bad cops, you have said that entire departments need overhauled.Halifax2TheMax said:
I love how you project what I think. I don't think all cops are bad just like I don't think all poor people are thugs. But to deny there is a major problem with the baltimore police department, you lose me there. And to think I should "respect" someone just for the work clothes they wear? Or any clothes? Talk about sheeple?Last-12-Exit said:
If all you read about is the bad apples, your opinion will certainly be swayed. You read about the 2%. Just keep in mind that the other 98% do good. (Those number came from nowhere, hopefully you see my point.)Halifax2TheMax said:If I walked up to you and suckered punched you and broke your nose, how much would you sue me for?
If me and three of my friends accosted you in a store, pushed you down and beat the crap out of you, how much would you sue me for? How much time in jail would you expect me to serve?
Just wondering.
If a cop did it to you, what would you expect as recompsense?
"Complete" disregard for the police. Yea, right.
And yes, the entire Baltimore police department needs to be overhauled. As does Ferguson's. And Cleveland's. Boston, NYC, Texas that fired the barrel roll amped up guy? Not so much. LA has been though they could still use some work as could Philly. Denver, San Diego, etc. I'm not sure.
As to South Carolina? You're a product of your environment.
I guess you keep over looking when I say respect is earned INDIVIDUALLY. The profession deserves respect.0 -
Does the profession "deserve" respect or is it earned? Personally, where I live and where I have lived, it's been earned. I'm not blindly respecting someone because of their profession. But for cops, especially? They earn my respect based on individual actions, even if I'm being a dick toward them. They're supposed to be professionals at my service. Treat me with respect, I'll treat you with respect. Act like a dick? Expect to be treated like a dick. Because they carry a gun, wear a badge and have powers of arrest, doesn't give them blanket respect or a pass on being a "dick."
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