PHILLY (Loosely Related to The Philadelphia Phillies)

Cliffy6745 · June 2015

This rain is fucking phenomenal

pjhawks · June 2015

Cliffy6745 said:
This is the guy people want to be President of the United States...

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/new-legislation-proposes-three-casinos-for-north-jersey/article_c1a60fcc-0872-11e5-bcb2-5bec49b0b6c2.html

there is no reason why North Jersey shouldn't have their own Casinos. As for Atlantic City the days of a high number of casinos and high revenues are never coming back. the faster they realize that and move on from that notion the better. Long term the best they can do for casinos is have 3-5 Borgata-type quality Casino properties. too many of the remaining structures have barely been upgraded in years and are not attractive properties to visit. Even sports gambling isn't a cure all because for that to be come legal the federal law is going to have to be overturned which is going to give every other state sports gambling as well. sports gambling revenues will help but it's no longer the save all fix. My opinion the one thing that can possibly help/save AC is the housing market. If they can somehow severely upgrade the housing areas (which unfortunately they haven't done at all since casino's arrived) they maybe the town can make a comeback. Housing market in some of the other south jersey beach markets are overpriced for the type of housing you are now getting. I doubt AC will make in roads there but the way some of the Philly neighborhoods have come back at least gives the hope that it's possible.

one off beat idea I thought was that instead of the state giving money to the Sixers for a practice facility in Camden they should have considered building an arena in Atlantic City and try to get them to move there. Josh Harris is a business man and not fully tied to Philly. I think he could have been talked into it with the right incentives.

Cliffy6745 · June 2015

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:
This is the guy people want to be President of the United States...

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/new-legislation-proposes-three-casinos-for-north-jersey/article_c1a60fcc-0872-11e5-bcb2-5bec49b0b6c2.html

there is no reason why North Jersey shouldn't have their own Casinos. As for Atlantic City the days of a high number of casinos and high revenues are never coming back. the faster they realize that and move on from that notion the better. Long term the best they can do for casinos is have 3-5 Borgata-type quality Casino properties. too many of the remaining structures have barely been upgraded in years and are not attractive properties to visit. Even sports gambling isn't a cure all because for that to be come legal the federal law is going to have to be overturned which is going to give every other state sports gambling as well. sports gambling revenues will help but it's no longer the save all fix. My opinion the one thing that can possibly help/save AC is the housing market. If they can somehow severely upgrade the housing areas (which unfortunately they haven't done at all since casino's arrived) they maybe the town can make a comeback. Housing market in some of the other south jersey beach markets are overpriced for the type of housing you are now getting. I doubt AC will make in roads there but the way some of the Philly neighborhoods have come back at least gives the hope that it's possible.

one off beat idea I thought was that instead of the state giving money to the Sixers for a practice facility in Camden they should have considered building an arena in Atlantic City and try to get them to move there. Josh Harris is a business man and not fully tied to Philly. I think he could have been talked into it with the right incentives.

The worst imaginable way to make more money for AC is to build more casinos. If north jersey wants casinos fine, but don't act like it will help AC when it will pretty much destroy it. Been there, done that. Simple supply and demand.

Cliffy6745 · June 2015

3-5 borgata type casinos? Seriously? Wasn't that the idea with revel? That's a pipe dream. There is obviously only a market for one borgata

pjhawks · June 2015

Cliffy6745 said:
3-5 borgata type casinos? Seriously? Wasn't that the idea with revel? That's a pipe dream. There is obviously only a market for one borgata

yes. Revel was a clusterfuck from the beginning. It's was poorly designed as the they said the casino area was hard to get from other areas within the building and is such a monstrosity that it needs it's own electric power station which is causing the new owners huge problems already. it also had the worst timing as it's construction started right before the financial markets almost completely collapsed. that place was doomed from the beginning.

my point regarding the 3-5 Borgata types is other than the Borgata the other facilities have barely been upgraded since they were built in the late 70s. most of them are old tired buildings that need major overhauls.

Cliffy6745 · June 2015

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:
3-5 borgata type casinos? Seriously? Wasn't that the idea with revel? That's a pipe dream. There is obviously only a market for one borgata
yes. Revel was a clusterfuck from the beginning. It's was poorly designed as the they said the casino area was hard to get from other areas within the building and is such a monstrosity that it needs it's own electric power station which is causing the new owners huge problems already. it also had the worst timing as it's construction started right before the financial markets almost completely collapsed. that place was doomed from the beginning.

my point regarding the 3-5 Borgata types is other than the Borgata the other facilities have barely been upgraded since they were built in the late 70s. most of them are old tired buildings that need major overhauls.

Well, yeah, I agree that Revel was a disaster from the beginning and the timing was terrible, but the Borgata is/was hard to get to from other areas. I like both the Trop and Harrah's. I think they are both solid places that serve their purpose and seem to be doing okay. I just don't see another casino that can charge $500+ on weekends making it in AC.

The goal of Revel was to create a bigger market and that didn't happen, just like the goal of the North Jersey casinos would be to create a bigger market, which also isn't going to happen. You ever been to AC on the weekend? At least 80% North Jersey/NYC. Building casinos in North Jersey and giving money to AC as a subsidy is an awful awful idea. Not saying North Jersey shouldn't have casinos, though I think they are a terrible revenue stream for government, but to act like this will help AC is idiotic.

pjhawks · June 2015

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:
3-5 borgata type casinos? Seriously? Wasn't that the idea with revel? That's a pipe dream. There is obviously only a market for one borgata
yes. Revel was a clusterfuck from the beginning. It's was poorly designed as the they said the casino area was hard to get from other areas within the building and is such a monstrosity that it needs it's own electric power station which is causing the new owners huge problems already. it also had the worst timing as it's construction started right before the financial markets almost completely collapsed. that place was doomed from the beginning.

my point regarding the 3-5 Borgata types is other than the Borgata the other facilities have barely been upgraded since they were built in the late 70s. most of them are old tired buildings that need major overhauls.
Well, yeah, I agree that Revel was a disaster from the beginning and the timing was terrible, but the Borgata is/was hard to get to from other areas. I like both the Trop and Harrah's. I think they are both solid places that serve their purpose and seem to be doing okay. I just don't see another casino that can charge $500+ on weekends making it in AC.

The goal of Revel was to create a bigger market and that didn't happen, just like the goal of the North Jersey casinos would be to create a bigger market, which also isn't going to happen. You ever been to AC on the weekend? At least 80% North Jersey/NYC. Building casinos in North Jersey and giving money to AC as a subsidy is an awful awful idea. Not saying North Jersey shouldn't have casinos, though I think they are a terrible revenue stream for government, but to act like this will help AC is idiotic.

agree 100% that the idea of North Jersey casinos helping AC is idiotic. North Jersey casinos will lead to the closing of a few more AC casinos. Been awhile since I've been to AC. Just no point unless already down the shore or want to hit up the Borgata. Have stayed at Harrah's a few times and agree not a bad property but still needs some upgrades for the long term. and yes last time I was in AC was at last 80% New Yorkers.

eeriepadave · June 2015

Chase Utley finally over the Mendoza line

eeriepadave · June 2015

another nice comeback win for the phightin's

F Me In The Brain · June 2015

god that was brutal for a reds fan. seems Chapman is a god vs. everyone but Philly. What a series for that kid hitting those homers though.

The Juggler · June 2015

FRANCO!!

Wobbie · June 2015

Casinos should only be in ne

The Juggler said:
FRANCO!!

John Franco?

eeriepadave · June 2015

imalive said:
Casinos should only be in ne
The Juggler said:
FRANCO!!
John Franco?

Wobbie · June 2015

eeriepadave said:

imalive said:
Casinos should only be in ne
The Juggler said:
FRANCO!!
John Franco?

I know....cuz I thought juggler was a mets hater

The Juggler · June 2015

Can someone please tell me just what the hell the Phillies are doing with Dom Brown?

I get it. He's not lived up to the hype. Not even close. But what do they have to lose by putting him in the lineup every night? He's just wasting away at Lehigh. This team is garbage. Call him up. Play him every game. If he plays better than he has before--great! Maybe he can contribute going forward...or maybe some other team will take a flyer on him and you'll be done with him. If he sucks....so what? So fucking what. I don't understand this at all. Someone explain it to me.

eeriepadave · June 2015

The Juggler said:
Can someone please tell me just what the hell the Phillies are doing with Dom Brown?

I get it. He's not lived up to the hype. Not even close. But what do they have to lose by putting him in the lineup every night? He's just wasting away at Lehigh. This team is garbage. Call him up. Play him every game. If he plays better than he has before--great! Maybe he can contribute going forward...or maybe some other team will take a flyer on him and you'll be done with him. If he sucks....so what? So fucking what. I don't understand this at all. Someone explain it to me.

two words, Ruben Amaro

pjhawks · June 2015

The Juggler said:
Can someone please tell me just what the hell the Phillies are doing with Dom Brown?

I get it. He's not lived up to the hype. Not even close. But what do they have to lose by putting him in the lineup every night? He's just wasting away at Lehigh. This team is garbage. Call him up. Play him every game. If he plays better than he has before--great! Maybe he can contribute going forward...or maybe some other team will take a flyer on him and you'll be done with him. If he sucks....so what? So fucking what. I don't understand this at all. Someone explain it to me.

he's hitting like .240 there with zero home runs an he doesn't exactly bust it all the time. does one good month he had in the major leagues earn him an every day position in the majors still? I think not. he needs to earn his position back.

I know the hipsters are off the bandwagon but still enjoyable to catch a game at the ballpark. was down there Friday night. was surprised how empty the lower level was. probably the smallest crowd I've seen there. at least it's easy to get a beer and in and out these days.

The Juggler · June 2015

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:
Can someone please tell me just what the hell the Phillies are doing with Dom Brown?

I get it. He's not lived up to the hype. Not even close. But what do they have to lose by putting him in the lineup every night? He's just wasting away at Lehigh. This team is garbage. Call him up. Play him every game. If he plays better than he has before--great! Maybe he can contribute going forward...or maybe some other team will take a flyer on him and you'll be done with him. If he sucks....so what? So fucking what. I don't understand this at all. Someone explain it to me.
he's hitting like .240 there with zero home runs an he doesn't exactly bust it all the time. does one good month he had in the major leagues earn him an every day position in the majors still? I think not. he needs to earn his position back.

I know the hipsters are off the bandwagon but still enjoyable to catch a game at the ballpark. was down there Friday night. was surprised how empty the lower level was. probably the smallest crowd I've seen there. at least it's easy to get a beer and in and out these days.

dude they are a terrible baseball team. they have absolutely nothing to lose by calling him back up and putting him out there every night. sink or swim, one final time. there is literally no upside to trotting francoeur out there but at least there is some, albeit very small, with brown. stupid to keep him in lehigh.

F Me In The Brain · June 2015

pjhawks said:

I know the hipsters are off the bandwagon but still enjoyable to catch a game at the ballpark. was down there Friday night. was surprised how empty the lower level was. probably the smallest crowd I've seen there. at least it's easy to get a beer and in and out these days.

I went to 2 games in the last 2 weeks and they were both a good time....and they were the smallest crowds in the 3 seasons I have been seeing games there since we moved. Very easy to get around and get good seats.
Sorry to report the douchebag contingent is still out in force working hard to keep Philly's reputation as the worst fans in sports alive. (A reputation which I thoroughly disagree with btw - I enjoy Philly fans and there are rabid assholes just like at most stadiums. Although they do seem to be tolerated more at Philly events.)

Example -- Colorado game the Saturday before last....we were sitting on the Rockies dugout and my 10 year old nephew was shocked to hear a thrashed fan about 20 rows back screaming at Rafael Betancourt as he was helped off the field by the trainer....."Hey Pitcher....What is wrong with you, you pussy?! Are you too scared to face us that you fake an injury? You Pussy! You Suck! I hope your arm is broken!"

The guy was slurring badly but people were laughing at him. I dont really judge -- because I wished that he would drive drunk home from the game and hit a wall, his car bursting into a ball of flames and removing from the world another waste of oxygen. Guess I am a bad fan too but at least I dont ruin the time for fellow ticket purchasing fans.

It is strange to see the stadium so empty though.

pjhawks · June 2015

The Juggler said:

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:
Can someone please tell me just what the hell the Phillies are doing with Dom Brown?

I get it. He's not lived up to the hype. Not even close. But what do they have to lose by putting him in the lineup every night? He's just wasting away at Lehigh. This team is garbage. Call him up. Play him every game. If he plays better than he has before--great! Maybe he can contribute going forward...or maybe some other team will take a flyer on him and you'll be done with him. If he sucks....so what? So fucking what. I don't understand this at all. Someone explain it to me.
he's hitting like .240 there with zero home runs an he doesn't exactly bust it all the time. does one good month he had in the major leagues earn him an every day position in the majors still? I think not. he needs to earn his position back.

I know the hipsters are off the bandwagon but still enjoyable to catch a game at the ballpark. was down there Friday night. was surprised how empty the lower level was. probably the smallest crowd I've seen there. at least it's easy to get a beer and in and out these days.
dude they are a terrible baseball team. they have absolutely nothing to lose by calling him back up and putting him out there every night. sink or swim, one final time. there is literally no upside to trotting francoeur out there but at least there is some, albeit very small, with brown. stupid to keep him in lehigh.

i understand that sentiment but you have to make guys earn a spot. if he was performing even reasonably well at Lehigh Valley I'd agree that he should be up here and once he does start to perform there he will be up. let him get it going a bit down there before you bring him back up i think is the right move.

Francoeur is providing a good right hand bat off the bench which the Phils have very few of and has been a good veteran presence for the younger guys. I actually think he has been surprisingly decent.

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