Record Store Day Mystery Vinyl
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Deal. I will even cover the shipping. Although if it's Backspacer or LB, I will have to throw something else in to even it out. Wouldn't feel right about that.shetellsherself said:If anyone gets vinyls they already have I have a solution: 1. bundle them back up. 2. I'll pay you $60.whatever you paid 3. you send it off to me.
No complaining needed.
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this tread alone is worth a $60 fee...i like sound...0
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Wow! Thx so much! My day just brightened! Sent you a pm.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
Deal. I will even cover the shipping. Although if it's Backspacer or LB, I will have to throw something else in to even it out. Wouldn't feel right about that.shetellsherself said:If anyone gets vinyls they already have I have a solution: 1. bundle them back up. 2. I'll pay you $60.whatever you paid 3. you send it off to me.
No complaining needed.
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Huh, isn't it quite the opposite? The other option is that some 'rare' 12" and 7" are paired together. That means more 'commodity' only pairs, i.e. increased odds of receiving exclusively 'commodity' vinyl.benjs said:Don't forget that since there's more 'commodity' vinyl than 'rare' vinyl on both, if 10C pairs a 'commodity' 7" with a 'rare' 12", then 'commodity' 12" with 'rare' 7", what's left is a whole lot of 'commodity' 12"/7" packages, and your odds of receiving exclusively 'commodity' vinyl actually increases.
Regardless of what they decide to do, the number of vinyl is fixed and the expected value of your package is the same. Spreading the 'rare' vinyl amongst more packages simply changes the shape of the distribution.Post edited by bazzer on0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
10C isn't mom and pop. they are the offshoot of a mutli-million dollar enterprise. their entire organization's bread and butter is online sales. if they wanted to sell their own shit, because they claim that fans are their first priority, then make good on that statement. ticket sales crush this place. sales like these crush this place. if you can't handle it, farm it out to someone that can.Zod said:
In that regard, I also don't expect companies to shell out huge wads of dough to handle peak traffic they only experience once or twice a year. It's expensive and a lot of redundant capacity (most of the time). Most website's on the internet will buckle under a spike in traffic. It makes little sense to have your servers so robust that they never fail.HughFreakingDillon said:As ridiculous as I think all the hubub over products is, the service by this club, server related or not, is just incredibly horrible. In my industry, when you know the demand will cause bandwidth issues, you upgrade/add to your servers. Simple as that. Just blatantly ignoring this single issue just shows blatant disregard for your customer.
In my not so humble opion I wouldn't expect a mom and pop organization to blow a load of money on servers they don't need 99 percent of the time. I would only ask they put some thought into it. Informing rabid PJ fan's who collect vinyl and everything else PJ, that there's going to be a sale of rare vinyl in two weeks. That's asking for problems. That by itself caused a spike in traffic. They could either hold a lottery for those interested or put them for sale at a random time. Either way would solve the issue. I think the two weeks heads up notice was a bad idea.
I see that point, but
-if you give people enough notice, the site crashes.....people bitch.
-if you don't give people a heads up, and they miss out.....people bitch
-if you do a lottery, and people get shut out.....people bitch
and those who scored.......when they get the package they weren't hoping for, or their record sleeve isn't in pristine condition, they will bitch.
the problem is two fold: the people around here expect too much (the materialism sickens me), while at the same time this fanclub delivers too little.HughFreakingDillon said:
10C isn't mom and pop. they are the offshoot of a mutli-million dollar enterprise. their entire organization's bread and butter is online sales. if they wanted to sell their own shit, because they claim that fans are their first priority, then make good on that statement. ticket sales crush this place. sales like these crush this place. if you can't handle it, farm it out to someone that can.Zod said:
In that regard, I also don't expect companies to shell out huge wads of dough to handle peak traffic they only experience once or twice a year. It's expensive and a lot of redundant capacity (most of the time). Most website's on the internet will buckle under a spike in traffic. It makes little sense to have your servers so robust that they never fail.HughFreakingDillon said:As ridiculous as I think all the hubub over products is, the service by this club, server related or not, is just incredibly horrible. In my industry, when you know the demand will cause bandwidth issues, you upgrade/add to your servers. Simple as that. Just blatantly ignoring this single issue just shows blatant disregard for your customer.
In my not so humble opion I wouldn't expect a mom and pop organization to blow a load of money on servers they don't need 99 percent of the time. I would only ask they put some thought into it. Informing rabid PJ fan's who collect vinyl and everything else PJ, that there's going to be a sale of rare vinyl in two weeks. That's asking for problems. That by itself caused a spike in traffic. They could either hold a lottery for those interested or put them for sale at a random time. Either way would solve the issue. I think the two weeks heads up notice was a bad idea.
I see that point, but
-if you give people enough notice, the site crashes.....people bitch.
-if you don't give people a heads up, and they miss out.....people bitch
-if you do a lottery, and people get shut out.....people bitch
and those who scored.......when they get the package they weren't hoping for, or their record sleeve isn't in pristine condition, they will bitch.
the problem is two fold: the people around here expect too much (the materialism sickens me), while at the same time this fanclub delivers too little.0 -
Companies do NOT have to pay
There are many technical solutions that allow companies to scale out when demand peaks and scale down for normal use. This is an extremely common practice for companies I imagine have a lot less financial support for infrastructure. You literally pay for what you use, so why not?HughFreakingDillon said:
10C isn't mom and pop. they are the offshoot of a mutli-million dollar enterprise. their entire organization's bread and butter is online sales. if they wanted to sell their own shit, because they claim that fans are their first priority, then make good on that statement. ticket sales crush this place. sales like these crush this place. if you can't handle it, farm it out to someone that can.Zod said:
In that regard, I also don't expect companies to shell out huge wads of dough to handle peak traffic they only experience once or twice a year. It's expensive and a lot of redundant capacity (most of the time). Most website's on the internet will buckle under a spike in traffic. It makes little sense to have your servers so robust that they never fail.HughFreakingDillon said:As ridiculous as I think all the hubub over products is, the service by this club, server related or not, is just incredibly horrible. In my industry, when you know the demand will cause bandwidth issues, you upgrade/add to your servers. Simple as that. Just blatantly ignoring this single issue just shows blatant disregard for your customer.
In my not so humble opion I wouldn't expect a mom and pop organization to blow a load of money on servers they don't need 99 percent of the time. I would only ask they put some thought into it. Informing rabid PJ fan's who collect vinyl and everything else PJ, that there's going to be a sale of rare vinyl in two weeks. That's asking for problems. That by itself caused a spike in traffic. They could either hold a lottery for those interested or put them for sale at a random time. Either way would solve the issue. I think the two weeks heads up notice was a bad idea.
I see that point, but
-if you give people enough notice, the site crashes.....people bitch.
-if you don't give people a heads up, and they miss out.....people bitch
-if you do a lottery, and people get shut out.....people bitch
and those who scored.......when they get the package they weren't hoping for, or their record sleeve isn't in pristine condition, they will bitch.
the problem is two fold: the people around here expect too much (the materialism sickens me), while at the same time this fanclub delivers too little.0 -
The more I think about this, the more it bothers me. I'm not an IT expert by any means, but something about blaming it on cookies and claiming that the problem could have been fixed by clearing the cache seems sketchy. Why, then, were some people given multiple order numbers? Why were some who got through the process and received a pending credit card charge and a blank white screen able to get back in to the second wave?mandarine65 said:"Our website runs on cookies. If you got all the way to check out, etc, the website would have "thought" you already made your purchase and blocked you from a second purchase. Had you cleared your cache, this would not have occurred.
Thanks
10c"
To my knowledge, cookies are browser specific. Yet I had the shop open on both Firefox and Chrome. I made the initial "purchase" (which got me a confirmation page with no order #) on Firefox. When I tried to get one again during the second wave, I did so on both Firefox AND Chrome, and then even opened Internet Explorer to try there. All three gave me the same message about not being able to purchase because supposedly I had already bought one. Can someone with more computer knowledge than I have verify if this is a legit cookie issue or not?
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kg162716 said:
oh come on guys, we're now second guessing something we have no idea about........no need to fan the flamesUnthoughtName said:
I have a feeling that the "big ticket items" will remain in the US. That way they are actually able to track them.just_one said:To bad you cant see the weight on international orders :(
^^if that is the truth, I'd be unreal pissed....
Make a thread for trade, see who got what where...0 -
Well, I see a lot of negativity about this reply. BUT, it doesn't read so terribly....I don't think there was any intention to blame the fan there or to offend, its actually a pretty solid attempt to explain why an order wasn't successfulmandarine65 said:"You received an order confirmation screen in error. Unfortunately your order did not go through.
If there had been an order number associated with this confirmation screen, you would see the order in your profile and you would receive an order confirmation email.
Our website runs on cookies. If you got all the way to check out, etc, the website would have "thought" you already made your purchase and blocked you from a second purchase. Had you cleared your cache, this would not have occurred.
Thanks
10c"
In other words stupid us for not knowing that with Tenclub 1- you get false confirmations and 2- your essentially a dumbf'"'" cause you did not realize you had to clear your cookies to make a purchase that you did not even think would go through as you got the said confirmation... sorry to give more fuel to this but this even worse than I thought, I wish I did not ask!
It certainly doesn't read to me that 'you should have cleared your cookies/cache memory', it was more an explanation as to what caused it to happen as far as they know, by going further to explain the cache element was probably merely to explain the issue right through. I don't think anyone is intending to suggest there you would be expected to do that more explaining things from their end.
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Having the appropriate IT background I can verify your thoughts: Cookies are browser specific - Using a different browser would procude equal results to clearing your browser cache. I would also not diagnose a Cookie-Problem here.walkunafraid said:
The more I think about this, the more it bothers me. I'm not an IT expert by any means, but something about blaming it on cookies and claiming that the problem could have been fixed by clearing the cache seems sketchy. Why, then, were some people given multiple order numbers? Why were some who got through the process and received a pending credit card charge and a blank white screen able to get back in to the second wave?mandarine65 said:"Our website runs on cookies. If you got all the way to check out, etc, the website would have "thought" you already made your purchase and blocked you from a second purchase. Had you cleared your cache, this would not have occurred.
Thanks
10c"
To my knowledge, cookies are browser specific. Yet I had the shop open on both Firefox and Chrome. I made the initial "purchase" (which got me a confirmation page with no order #) on Firefox. When I tried to get one again during the second wave, I did so on both Firefox AND Chrome, and then even opened Internet Explorer to try there. All three gave me the same message about not being able to purchase because supposedly I had already bought one. Can someone with more computer knowledge than I have verify if this is a legit cookie issue or not?
That being said and also having expirienced situations like this from the technical side of the seller - Such scenarios of high load and multiple software-parts interacting can be highly complex (Did the server crash between the users sessions? Which part of the software responended, which not, etc.) and providing an accurate explaination is really difficult for the sellers side (especially for individual cases that happend and if you don't have the technical background - I have seen IT-Companies not getting this right). I give them kudos for even trying to explain...
My 2 cents to the whole discussion: I would support the call for a cloud /scaling environment which could handle higher loads dynamically, but still this is easy to "want" and difficult to implement. It depends also very strongly on how the shop software and all connected parts are built - not everything can just be thrown at the cloud or a bigger server and scales well (without introducing more problems)
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Maybe you should go fix their website, they need some help.one_stone said:
Having the appropriate IT background I can verify your thoughts: Cookies are browser specific - Using a different browser would procude equal results to clearing your browser cache. I would also not diagnose a Cookie-Problem here.walkunafraid said:
The more I think about this, the more it bothers me. I'm not an IT expert by any means, but something about blaming it on cookies and claiming that the problem could have been fixed by clearing the cache seems sketchy. Why, then, were some people given multiple order numbers? Why were some who got through the process and received a pending credit card charge and a blank white screen able to get back in to the second wave?mandarine65 said:"Our website runs on cookies. If you got all the way to check out, etc, the website would have "thought" you already made your purchase and blocked you from a second purchase. Had you cleared your cache, this would not have occurred.
Thanks
10c"
To my knowledge, cookies are browser specific. Yet I had the shop open on both Firefox and Chrome. I made the initial "purchase" (which got me a confirmation page with no order #) on Firefox. When I tried to get one again during the second wave, I did so on both Firefox AND Chrome, and then even opened Internet Explorer to try there. All three gave me the same message about not being able to purchase because supposedly I had already bought one. Can someone with more computer knowledge than I have verify if this is a legit cookie issue or not?
That being said and also having expirienced situations like this from the technical side of the seller - Such scenarios of high load and multiple software-parts interacting can be highly complex (Did the server crash between the users sessions? Which part of the software responended, which not, etc.) and providing an accurate explaination is really difficult for the sellers side (especially for individual cases that happend and if you don't have the technical background - I have seen IT-Companies not getting this right). I give them kudos for even trying to explain...
My 2 cents to the whole discussion: I would support the call for a cloud /scaling environment which could handle higher loads dynamically, but still this is easy to "want" and difficult to implement. It depends also very strongly on how the shop software and all connected parts are built - not everything can just be thrown at the cloud or a bigger server and scales well (without introducing more problems)Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?0 -
:-) Honestly when I read about everybody F5-ing like crazy makes me feel pretty sick from the technical point of view (while I can totally relate from the fan-side, doing it myself). Fixing this would be a huge project. But for a Benny and some tickets I might be bribeable ;-)a5pj said:
Maybe you should go fix their website, they need some help.one_stone said:
Having the appropriate IT background I can verify your thoughts: Cookies are browser specific - Using a different browser would procude equal results to clearing your browser cache. I would also not diagnose a Cookie-Problem here.walkunafraid said:
The more I think about this, the more it bothers me. I'm not an IT expert by any means, but something about blaming it on cookies and claiming that the problem could have been fixed by clearing the cache seems sketchy. Why, then, were some people given multiple order numbers? Why were some who got through the process and received a pending credit card charge and a blank white screen able to get back in to the second wave?mandarine65 said:"Our website runs on cookies. If you got all the way to check out, etc, the website would have "thought" you already made your purchase and blocked you from a second purchase. Had you cleared your cache, this would not have occurred.
Thanks
10c"
To my knowledge, cookies are browser specific. Yet I had the shop open on both Firefox and Chrome. I made the initial "purchase" (which got me a confirmation page with no order #) on Firefox. When I tried to get one again during the second wave, I did so on both Firefox AND Chrome, and then even opened Internet Explorer to try there. All three gave me the same message about not being able to purchase because supposedly I had already bought one. Can someone with more computer knowledge than I have verify if this is a legit cookie issue or not?
That being said and also having expirienced situations like this from the technical side of the seller - Such scenarios of high load and multiple software-parts interacting can be highly complex (Did the server crash between the users sessions? Which part of the software responended, which not, etc.) and providing an accurate explaination is really difficult for the sellers side (especially for individual cases that happend and if you don't have the technical background - I have seen IT-Companies not getting this right). I give them kudos for even trying to explain...
My 2 cents to the whole discussion: I would support the call for a cloud /scaling environment which could handle higher loads dynamically, but still this is easy to "want" and difficult to implement. It depends also very strongly on how the shop software and all connected parts are built - not everything can just be thrown at the cloud or a bigger server and scales well (without introducing more problems)0 -
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Shoot. I didn't get one. Oh well.0
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An update on previous status checks that made me chuckle.
I have been checking my bank account daily to see the $60.99 pending charge go away. Still there.
The order did not show up in my Order History and I know from the rather direct emails others have shared from 10C that this means I am obviously some sort of moron if I dont understand that if it doesn't show in this section that I never ordered it.
For grins I went to check my Order History and there is nothing, it is blank. The thousands of dollars of items over the years ordered there are not listed. Which must mean that I never ordered them...so I laughingly wonder, do I get my money back?
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So do you think everyone will sell their extra mystery vinyl they don't want for $60 or will it be market value?? And will those that scored trade vinyls based on market value?? Just expect so...this will be interesting to watch unfold. All the internal ten club flipping. Can't wait til all the pm me if interested. Do you think the mods will crack down on all those behind the scenes auctions without posting prices??2006 Clev,Pitt; 2008 NY MSGx2; 2010 Columbus; 2012 Missoula; 2013 Phoenix,Vancouver,Seattle; 2014 Cincy; 2016 Lex, Wrigley 1&2; 2018 Wrigley 1&2; 2022 Louisville0
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Maybe you CLEARED YOUR COOKIES!!!!F Me In The Brain said:An update on previous status checks that made me chuckle.
I have been checking my bank account daily to see the $60.99 pending charge go away. Still there.
The order did not show up in my Order History and I know from the rather direct emails others have shared from 10C that this means I am obviously some sort of moron if I dont understand that if it doesn't show in this section that I never ordered it.
For grins I went to check my Order History and there is nothing, it is blank. The thousands of dollars of items over the years ordered there are not listed. Which must mean that I never ordered them...so I laughingly wonder, do I get my money back?
Oh well!
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I understand that it's sometimes hard to explain these issues, but man, I wish they would have just left it as "it was a technical issue that we have yet to figure out" rather than try to pass it off as a cookie/cache issue. More to the point, to explain that we would have been fine if we had cleared our cache (implying that WE could have done something to make the purchase) -- which, according to your explanation, is wrong -- is pretty fucked up.one_stone said:
Having the appropriate IT background I can verify your thoughts: Cookies are browser specific - Using a different browser would procude equal results to clearing your browser cache. I would also not diagnose a Cookie-Problem here.walkunafraid said:
The more I think about this, the more it bothers me. I'm not an IT expert by any means, but something about blaming it on cookies and claiming that the problem could have been fixed by clearing the cache seems sketchy. Why, then, were some people given multiple order numbers? Why were some who got through the process and received a pending credit card charge and a blank white screen able to get back in to the second wave?mandarine65 said:"Our website runs on cookies. If you got all the way to check out, etc, the website would have "thought" you already made your purchase and blocked you from a second purchase. Had you cleared your cache, this would not have occurred.
Thanks
10c"
To my knowledge, cookies are browser specific. Yet I had the shop open on both Firefox and Chrome. I made the initial "purchase" (which got me a confirmation page with no order #) on Firefox. When I tried to get one again during the second wave, I did so on both Firefox AND Chrome, and then even opened Internet Explorer to try there. All three gave me the same message about not being able to purchase because supposedly I had already bought one. Can someone with more computer knowledge than I have verify if this is a legit cookie issue or not?
That being said and also having expirienced situations like this from the technical side of the seller - Such scenarios of high load and multiple software-parts interacting can be highly complex (Did the server crash between the users sessions? Which part of the software responended, which not, etc.) and providing an accurate explaination is really difficult for the sellers side (especially for individual cases that happend and if you don't have the technical background - I have seen IT-Companies not getting this right). I give them kudos for even trying to explain...
My 2 cents to the whole discussion: I would support the call for a cloud /scaling environment which could handle higher loads dynamically, but still this is easy to "want" and difficult to implement. It depends also very strongly on how the shop software and all connected parts are built - not everything can just be thrown at the cloud or a bigger server and scales well (without introducing more problems)Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
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Assuming you're using an iPhone....F Me In The Brain said:
For grins I went to check my Order History and there is nothing, it is blank. The thousands of dollars of items over the years ordered there are not listed. Which must mean that I never ordered them...so I laughingly wonder, do I get my money back?
Oh well!
Order History shows blank on iphone Google Chrome, if you use Safari, it will populate correctly.
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