Record Store Day Mystery Vinyl

dimitrispearljam

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Wait a second here.

YOU people are tracking the weight of your shipment?
Knowing the Benny will weigh more?

Wow.
Holy Fuck.

THIS IS PSYCHOSIS

PJ_Soul

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

All frustrations aside, this was hardly a scam or a rip off. No one is losing any money here.

walkunafraid

mandarine65 said:

"
Our website runs on cookies. If you got all the way to check out, etc, the website would have "thought" you already made your purchase and blocked you from a second purchase. Had you cleared your cache, this would not have occurred.
Thanks
10c"

Yikes. Yet I bet there are going to be some people on here who still defend them for this response.

mandarine65

Letting people think they actually scored something that Amazing is an emotional Scam
Blaming them thereafter, I have no words
We are not complaining for not being able to score something highly demanded, but to actually having been fooled that we did, and then blamed for it. Its time people stop defending the TenClub tooth and nails anytime something bad happens!

Leezestarr313

Who clears their cache in a situation like this?

jeffbr

Leezestarr313 said:

Who clears their cache in a situation like this?

In a situation where every second counts? Nobody!! Who would clear their cache, shut down browsers, possibly lose something that it already sitting in your cart, etc...?

rival.

PJ_Soul said:

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

All frustrations aside, this was hardly a scam or a rip off. No one is losing any money here.

tell that to the poor suckers that receive a black backspacer lp (on sale for $15 in the shop) and a 2004 holiday single (on sale for $10 in the shop).

i hope 10c would give everyone a bundle worth the $50 spent... but the odds aren't too favorable based on the inventory list that they posted.

walkunafraid

rival. said:

PJ_Soul said:

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

All frustrations aside, this was hardly a scam or a rip off. No one is losing any money here.

tell that to the poor suckers that receive a black backspacer lp (on sale for $15 in the shop) and a 2004 holiday single (on sale for $10 in the shop).

i hope 10c would give everyone a bundle worth the $50 spent... but the odds aren't too favorable based on the inventory list that they posted.

Even if people receive those two things, this wasn't a scam or a ripoff. Everyone was clearly informed of what they were purchasing and even given a general count of how many of each record would be available (a step that the 10C did not have to take, but did).

If you read that and decided to gamble and buy a Mystery Package, you have no right to complain or feel ripped off by what you you get.

PJ_Soul

rival. said:

PJ_Soul said:

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

All frustrations aside, this was hardly a scam or a rip off. No one is losing any money here.

tell that to the poor suckers that receive a black backspacer lp (on sale for $15 in the shop) and a 2004 holiday single (on sale for $10 in the shop).

i hope 10c would give everyone a bundle worth the $50 spent... but the odds aren't too favorable based on the inventory list that they posted.

True. That is one thing I've said from the beginning actually. If they decided to put two items that can be bought on their website for less than $50, then yes, that's a rip-off (some just think of it as a gamble, and they have a point too). I still have faith that 10C will put a little more thought than that into the packages, but you never know.

Zod

bruinfans said:

Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

Nice post but it won't change anything 10c already has way more members than they can acquire tickets for or create merch for. I think Walkunafraid explained it the best. The 10c has a monopoly on Pearl Jam. If your not a 10c member you can't access a lot of their merchandise and you lose out on access to the best tickets to every concert. You basically condemn yourself to the nosebleeds for eternity and would have a helluva hard time maintaining a PJ collection. Hence from a business standpoint the 10c doesn't seem to put more revenues into leasing servers or better customer service.

It's too bad. The Ten Club can be pretty good at times (especially when dealing with individual issues). It's the big stuff that they run into problems with. They could probably save a whole bunch of headaches by keeping a blog on the website keeping everyone up to speed. Sorry the server crashed, we lost a bunch of orders, our apologies kind of stuff. Or we anticipate high demand which may cause problems with the website, we appreciate your patience during this onsale. Santos often writes messages in the forum keeping people in the loop. Maybe a Santos blog would go a long way.

PJ_Soul

I agree that 10C would really benefit from a blog. A nice honest and straighforward one, that keeps the fans updated more on the day-to-days of 10C, issues with merch, sales, casual updates on stuff like progress with albums and side projects, thoughts about reissues, explanations as to why this or that is or isn't being done, etc etc.... It wouldn't take much time at all for someone at 10C to do this, and it would go a REALLY long way with the membership.

HughFreakingDillon

rival. said:

PJ_Soul said:

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

All frustrations aside, this was hardly a scam or a rip off. No one is losing any money here.

tell that to the poor suckers that receive a black backspacer lp (on sale for $15 in the shop) and a 2004 holiday single (on sale for $10 in the shop).

i hope 10c would give everyone a bundle worth the $50 spent... but the odds aren't too favorable based on the inventory list that they posted.

so now people are bitching about hypotheticals? this hasn't even happened yet!!

walkunafraid

PJ_Soul said:

rival. said:

PJ_Soul said:

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

All frustrations aside, this was hardly a scam or a rip off. No one is losing any money here.

tell that to the poor suckers that receive a black backspacer lp (on sale for $15 in the shop) and a 2004 holiday single (on sale for $10 in the shop).

i hope 10c would give everyone a bundle worth the $50 spent... but the odds aren't too favorable based on the inventory list that they posted.

True. That is one thing I've said from the beginning actually. If they decided to put two items that can be bought on their website for less than $50, then yes, that's a rip-off (some just think of it as a gamble, and they have a point too). I still have faith that 10C will put a little more thought than that into the packages, but you never know.

No, it's not a rip-off. People were clearly informed of what might go into the packages and given specific counts of how many of each record would be available. It doesn't take a math genius to figure out that your odds of scoring a "valuable" record is pretty low. You were given a clear explanation of the sale, a clear count of how many of each record would be available, and a clear price. How, then, is it a rip-off if you don't get records that meet or exceed a value of $50?

It's like buying a pack of baseball cards when you're a kid. You pay a price without knowing what's inside, but having a general idea of the possibilities. If you get a bunch of cards worth nothing (as is the case in most packs), you aren't getting ripped off. It's the thrill of pulling that one highly desirable or valuable card that makes the chase worthwhile, but doing so is certainly not a guarantee.

rival.

HughFreakingDillon said:

rival. said:

PJ_Soul said:

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

All frustrations aside, this was hardly a scam or a rip off. No one is losing any money here.

tell that to the poor suckers that receive a black backspacer lp (on sale for $15 in the shop) and a 2004 holiday single (on sale for $10 in the shop).

i hope 10c would give everyone a bundle worth the $50 spent... but the odds aren't too favorable based on the inventory list that they posted.

so now people are bitching about hypotheticals? this hasn't even happened yet!!

was i bitching in my post? if so, i missed it.

PJ_Soul

walkunafraid said:

PJ_Soul said:

rival. said:

PJ_Soul said:

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

All frustrations aside, this was hardly a scam or a rip off. No one is losing any money here.

tell that to the poor suckers that receive a black backspacer lp (on sale for $15 in the shop) and a 2004 holiday single (on sale for $10 in the shop).

i hope 10c would give everyone a bundle worth the $50 spent... but the odds aren't too favorable based on the inventory list that they posted.

True. That is one thing I've said from the beginning actually. If they decided to put two items that can be bought on their website for less than $50, then yes, that's a rip-off (some just think of it as a gamble, and they have a point too). I still have faith that 10C will put a little more thought than that into the packages, but you never know.

No, it's not a rip-off. People were clearly informed of what might go into the packages and given specific counts of how many of each record would be available. It doesn't take a math genius to figure out that your odds of scoring a "valuable" record is pretty low. You were given a clear explanation of the sale, a clear count of how many of each record would be available, and a clear price. How, then, is it a rip-off if you don't get records that meet or exceed a value of $50?

It's like buying a pack of baseball cards when you're a kid. You pay a price without knowing what's inside, but having a general idea of the possibilities. If you get a bunch of cards worth nothing (as is the case in most packs), you aren't getting ripped off. It's the thrill of pulling that one highly desirable or valuable card that makes the chase worthwhile, but doing so is certainly not a guarantee.

I'm not talking about getting a valuable record. Just $50 worth of vinyl. But anyway, I really don't give a shit. The gamble theory sits fine with me too.

walkunafraid

PJ_Soul said:

walkunafraid said:

PJ_Soul said:

rival. said:

PJ_Soul said:

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

All frustrations aside, this was hardly a scam or a rip off. No one is losing any money here.

tell that to the poor suckers that receive a black backspacer lp (on sale for $15 in the shop) and a 2004 holiday single (on sale for $10 in the shop).

i hope 10c would give everyone a bundle worth the $50 spent... but the odds aren't too favorable based on the inventory list that they posted.

True. That is one thing I've said from the beginning actually. If they decided to put two items that can be bought on their website for less than $50, then yes, that's a rip-off (some just think of it as a gamble, and they have a point too). I still have faith that 10C will put a little more thought than that into the packages, but you never know.

No, it's not a rip-off. People were clearly informed of what might go into the packages and given specific counts of how many of each record would be available. It doesn't take a math genius to figure out that your odds of scoring a "valuable" record is pretty low. You were given a clear explanation of the sale, a clear count of how many of each record would be available, and a clear price. How, then, is it a rip-off if you don't get records that meet or exceed a value of $50?

It's like buying a pack of baseball cards when you're a kid. You pay a price without knowing what's inside, but having a general idea of the possibilities. If you get a bunch of cards worth nothing (as is the case in most packs), you aren't getting ripped off. It's the thrill of pulling that one highly desirable or valuable card that makes the chase worthwhile, but doing so is certainly not a guarantee.

I'm not talking about getting a valuable record. Just $50 worth of vinyl. But anyway, I really don't give a shit. The gamble theory sits fine with me too.

Vinyl, intrinsically, costs pennies to produce, so in that case, not a single person will get $50 worth of vinyl.

If you're referring to market price, well, that depends on when and where you're purchasing the record.

Regardless, to go into this saying you're getting "ripped-off" if you don't get two records with a market price that adds up to $50 is pretty ridiculous seeing as how you knew exactly what was available and in what counts when you decided to participate in the sale. Nowhere in the description of the sale did it say that you were guaranteed to get two records with a market value of $50, so any claims of being "ripped-off" are absurd.

a5pj

Anyone who posts what they got and are disappointed with what they got should prepare to be seriously flamed by those that missed out on the sale completely.

Also the whole cookie cache thing response from 10C, come on. How about instead of an excuse you get a website that works once every 10 years. This has been happening since they started selling things online. Heck I'd rather go back to the whole cart system where it would drop after an hour or so if someone didn't buy it, at least that worked. Or just stick with the lottery for everything, just shorten the buying period to a couple hours.

Anyway I don't know - just sick of being frustrated every sale whether I score or not.

JustaPJFan

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

U2? What happend?

PJ_Soul

walkunafraid said:

PJ_Soul said:

walkunafraid said:

PJ_Soul said:

rival. said:

PJ_Soul said:

bruinfans said:

I thought I was the only one!
I wonder how many people got caught in this scam.
Most of the die-hards who tried to buy at the beginning, I guess
Same thing happened with U2 a few years ago.
Your reward for long standing support... a snooty (snotty) email that doesn't even include an apology!
We are trying to spend hard earned money here, I for one require better service from businesses I
patronize.
So Goodbye Ten Club, it was fun while it lasted !
Blatant disregard for your customer is not acceptable
Better luck to those of you who stick around for the next rip-off.
#canceltenclub

All frustrations aside, this was hardly a scam or a rip off. No one is losing any money here.

tell that to the poor suckers that receive a black backspacer lp (on sale for $15 in the shop) and a 2004 holiday single (on sale for $10 in the shop).

i hope 10c would give everyone a bundle worth the $50 spent... but the odds aren't too favorable based on the inventory list that they posted.

True. That is one thing I've said from the beginning actually. If they decided to put two items that can be bought on their website for less than $50, then yes, that's a rip-off (some just think of it as a gamble, and they have a point too). I still have faith that 10C will put a little more thought than that into the packages, but you never know.

No, it's not a rip-off. People were clearly informed of what might go into the packages and given specific counts of how many of each record would be available. It doesn't take a math genius to figure out that your odds of scoring a "valuable" record is pretty low. You were given a clear explanation of the sale, a clear count of how many of each record would be available, and a clear price. How, then, is it a rip-off if you don't get records that meet or exceed a value of $50?

It's like buying a pack of baseball cards when you're a kid. You pay a price without knowing what's inside, but having a general idea of the possibilities. If you get a bunch of cards worth nothing (as is the case in most packs), you aren't getting ripped off. It's the thrill of pulling that one highly desirable or valuable card that makes the chase worthwhile, but doing so is certainly not a guarantee.

I'm not talking about getting a valuable record. Just $50 worth of vinyl. But anyway, I really don't give a shit. The gamble theory sits fine with me too.

Vinyl, intrinsically, costs pennies to produce, so in that case, not a single person will get $50 worth of vinyl.

If you're referring to market price, well, that depends on when and where you're purchasing the record.

Regardless, to go into this saying you're getting "ripped-off" if you don't get two records with a market price that adds up to $50 is pretty ridiculous seeing as how you knew exactly what was available and in what counts when you decided to participate in the sale. Nowhere in the description of the sale did it say that you were guaranteed to get two records with a market value of $50, so any claims of being "ripped-off" are absurd.

Yeah, I'm talking sale price in the Pearl Jam store. I just figured that 10C might actually make an effort to avoid sending people a package that has a value of less than $50 in their own shop (i.e. $15 Backspacer and $10 2013 single, on the PJ website).
Again, don't really give a flying fuck. I agree that anyone really whining after getting their packages should probably shut their traps just out of respect for the people who didn't get anything at all.

rival.

the only point i am trying to make is that the 10c has the ball in their court. i hope they pair everything up the best they can so everyone feels they get a fair shake for their $50. everyone is well aware of the odds, and i hope everyone that entered realized that this is a gamble and they could very well walk away with a backspacer and a recent christmas single, just like they can hit the jackpot with a benny paired with a sevens. that's all part of the excitement and i was okay kicking a $50 punt to get an OPPORTUNITY to score one of the vinyls that i am missing in my collection.

the PJ/EV mystery boxes were similar, but they were at least able to fill them all with enough chachkies where most felt they got what they paid for. here, you are only receiving two items and you see this place when it comes to vinyls....... expectations, expectations, expectations.