I dont care about vinyl

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    paulonious said:

    why is mono now better than stereo?

    Well for The Beatles in particular, the reason I prefer them in mono is because there's several songs where vocals are isolated to one side (the lead vocal in Eleanor Rigby being the most annoying instance for me). Put all the other instruments and sounds where you want, but I want the lead vocal (and to a lesser extent, the drums) centered. Mr. Kite is another example where the lead vocal is isolated one one side in stereo. It blows. All the Beatles songs on my iPhone are in mono because of this. I can't listen to the Beatles in stereo with headphones on....at least for the albums up until The White Album.

    The Yellow Submarine "Songtrack" that was released in 1999 is interesting. It's in stereo, but a few of the songs that had vocals isolated to one side on their original stereo releases (Eleanor Rigby, Sgt. Peppers, Hey Bulldog, Nowhere Man among others) have the vocals centered but the rest of the instruments in their original stereo spots. I love it. It's as if whoever mixed that in 1999 thought to themselves "why the fuck is Paul's voice all the way over THERE on Eleanor Rigby?" Unfortunately, the stereo remasters of 2009, as awesome of the are, have the vocals where they originally were for the stereo mixes of the 60's. Bummer. But the mono albums released also in 2009 compliment them so that's cool. But in a perfect world (for me), stereo versions of Please Please Me through Magical Mystery Tour would have all the instruments as they were in their original stereo releases...but with the vocals centered like on the 1999 Yellow Submarine disc.

    As for the thread topic, I also don't care about vinyl. At all.
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  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,667
    PJ_Soul said:



    It is definitely a bummer when you get a record that doesn't sound any good just because it was poorly mastered. But oh, the ones that are done right - so amazing. :heart:

    You can say the exact same thing for digital. Format doesn't matter as much as the mastering.
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    paulonious said:

    why is mono now better than stereo?

    When it comes to the Beatles, they did a rush job pressing the stereo version to get them out in time for the holidays. They took their time with the Mono.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
    darthvedder said:

    PJ_Soul said:



    It is definitely a bummer when you get a record that doesn't sound any good just because it was poorly mastered. But oh, the ones that are done right - so amazing. :heart:

    You can say the exact same thing for digital. Format doesn't matter as much as the mastering.
    True, however, I absolutely hear the difference between CD and vinyl. It's obvious. CDs sound more crisp and sharp, vinyl sounds warmer. I prefer the warm, rich sound that only vinyl has. This IS due to the format. Even if the exact same source were used, vinyl would sound better to me.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    paulonious said:

    lolobugg said:

    paulonious said:

    I thought there was some white stripes studio vinyl released in mono, no?

    Yeah. Icky Thump MONO version was issued as the 1st Vault release....
    I was trying to forget that one... my ex-wife got it in the divorce. :bawling:

    Your main man Billy Corgan also released Adore as MONO only on vinyl. I honestly can't tell much difference but then again I don't have a MONO stylus.
    my main man? LOL

    adore is one of my least favourite records. I have never understood why so many pumpkins fans look at it like a masterpiece.
    Never understood it either. A friend of mine always tells me I'm insane for thinking Gish & Siamese Dream are the Pumpkins best work. He, too, is an Adore fan. Another friend and I always joke about how this guy likes the worst albums by the best bands.
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  • BIGDaddyWil
    BIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,080
    my2hands said:

    MedozK said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    I guess you just have to be a fan. Because in no way do I think that the scratchy sound of vinyl is better than a cd.

    Nicely pressed vinyl are as quiet as any CD, with more depth.
    I recently got my TT up and running... popped on Neil Young Massey Hall and was blown away by the sound quality, I thought Neil was in my living room... and i have a very basic setup

    Most of Uncle Neil's stuff sounds excellent on vinyl, Reprise Records!
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  • smarchee
    smarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    but have you tried listening to vinyl................................with weed
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
    BIGDaddyWil said:

    my2hands said:

    MedozK said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    I guess you just have to be a fan. Because in no way do I think that the scratchy sound of vinyl is better than a cd.

    Nicely pressed vinyl are as quiet as any CD, with more depth.
    I recently got my TT up and running... popped on Neil Young Massey Hall and was blown away by the sound quality, I thought Neil was in my living room... and i have a very basic setup

    Most of Uncle Neil's stuff sounds excellent on vinyl, Reprise Records!
    Indeed!

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    Last-12-Exit said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    time to change that OP!

    Why?
    I think the sound is probably better with the right sound system, but the money drain of vinyl would prevent me from diving in. I love music but hearing 85% of the range of the song is good enough for me.
  • Uncle Snuffy
    Uncle Snuffy Posts: 959
    I have a difficult time listening to vinyl when I go for a run. The needle keeps skipping. Guess I will go back to using my iPod.

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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,227
    smarchee said:

    but have you tried listening to vinyl................................with weed

    Just about every time when i was buying Vinyl in the 70's.

    I STILL prefer vinyl.

  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,528
    smarchee said:

    but have you tried listening to vinyl................................with weed

    I did once. While recovering from a backiotomy.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    I dont understand the phrase "warm sound of vinyl". I hear that said all the time, but have never understood the meaning. Maybe if i heard a good vinyl setup and then the same song on cd or ipod i might get it, but so far, i aint hearing it.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Last-12-Exit said:

    I really don't like to even listen to records. It's a poor sound quality.
    Sorry, just wanted to say that.

    So your interest in PJ vinyl is null?

  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    I like the sound of the best music on the best medium
  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,669
    A song I've heard a thousand times on CD can sound brand new and fresh on vinyl. It becomes brighter, fuller, sometimes feels like a live listening experience.
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  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    I like vinyl, but I am screwed if my air conditioning ever goes out during an Arizona summer and I'm not around to notice. Hahaha
  • wpg pearl
    wpg pearl Posts: 1,258

    i like 1 ply better then 2 ply
    ajb
  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Give me your address ill send you my unopened white backspacer record maybe it will change your mind...
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  • BIGDaddyWil
    BIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,080
    wpg pearl said:


    i like 1 ply better then 2 ply

    I prefer baby wipes.
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