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Last-12-Exit wrote: »I'm 100% in favor of LEGALIZATION. I am well aware of the difference between decriminalization and legalization. It should be legal just as cigarettes and alcohol are. If thebshit is to strong,simply don't buy it.
Quick question for those of you in Arizona or Washington: I've heard employers can still pop you with drug tests and fire you for testing positive for pot. Is that being fought? Has the supreme court ruled in that yet?
It's still bad in AZ with how people are treated with a medical card. They made damn sure here to include in the medical bill that employers have the right to look you up in the database and can terminate you for just having a card. Forget having any in your system, that is enough. AZ is very employer friendly and has the most relaxed (or rigid depending on how you look at it) right to work laws of any state. Just to show you how harsh the DUI laws are, having a prescription pain killer in your blood is enough to get a DUI even if you are not on that medication at the time. Marijuana advocacy groups are fighting those laws in regards to MMJ but lost round 1.Post edited by Amongst the Ani onTom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
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Last-12-Exit wrote: »Last-12-Exit wrote: »Quick question for those of you in Arizona or Washington: I've heard employers can still pop you with drug tests and fire you for testing positive for pot. Is that being fought? Has the supreme court ruled in that yet?
I'm not aware of anyone fighting it in Washington. Even with legal substances like alcohol an employer can still test and terminate if it is detected on the job. Add the federal prohibition to that and I don't think anyone is going to take away an employers right to test and fire you. There are a lot of companies, even companies considered "local", that piss test before hiring like Boeing and Costco. So even after legalization, nothing really changed with employers as far as the law goes.
But unlike alcohol, you can have weed in your system and not be impaired. If I go into work and take a breathalyzer and blow anything over a .00, I'm impaired. I can smoke a bowl this weekend and test positive next Friday and not be impaired at all. That's my problem with drug testing.
Oh, I'm with you there. That was another issue I had with the legalization initiative that passed here. "The initiative sets a per se DUI limit of "delta-9" THC levels at greater than or equal to 5 nanograms per milliliter of blood (5 ng/mL)." There needs to be good tests developed for impairment. I would like to see some sort of reaction test, rather than blood test. I don't care why someone is impaired (too little sleep, legal prescription drugs, pot, alcohol, fatigue, etc...). If they are impaired in a way that they can't perform, whether work duties or driving, then they fail. But there are regular, daily medical marijuana smokers who could be stone cold sober, but will still test positive in any sort of blood test, and they shouldn't be punished for that. Most MMJ patients walk around with > 5ng/mL in their system regardless of when they last smoked and regardless of whether or not they're impaired.
Great post and points. My company doesn't test, though as a daily smoker I'm sure it'd be evident in my system if they did. (plus I kick ass at my job!)
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I smoked more weed back in the day than all you youngsters put together.
I'm still a hippie liberal but, gotta tell you, I'm not in favor of legalized weed. this new shit is just TOO POTENT!
yeah, TOO POTENT! decriminalized, yes....legalized, no.
Too potent for YOU, so lets NOT legalize it.
relax......go smoke a bowl.....but, careful, this shit is really potent!I smoked more weed back in the day than all you youngsters put together.
I'm still a hippie liberal but, gotta tell you, I'm not in favor of legalized weed. this new shit is just TOO POTENT!
yeah, TOO POTENT! decriminalized, yes....legalized, no.
Too potent for YOU, so lets NOT legalize it.
relax......go smoke a bowl.....but, careful, this shit is really potent!
Why are you telling me to relax? I'm like really quite relaxed, You don't seem relaxed,
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If you had an opportunity to vote to legalize it or not, would you really vote to keep it from being 'truly legal'?
Jeez....I feel like I'm in the Moving Train.
on the last page, someone mentioned eating cookies that put them in a "semi-retarded state".....my point is, with the new stuff, I'm not sure sure you can just get a little stoned...it seems like, one hit and you're fucked up.
maybe they make some legal weaker stuff....I just know you can have a drink or two and just be mellow...not sure that's true with legal weed.
I'd vote to decriminalize it but not make it legal.
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Finally we can talk about weed and everyone one is pretty cool about the whole thing, as someone who has been smoking 25 years and who has taken LSD and mushrooms well over 100 times total I am so happy how much the discussion has opened up and how much more opened up people's minds have become0
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Aside from the Thai I smoked in high school (and I AM talking weed, not human :-D) and the occasional hit-too-hard bowl or bong, I've never gotten fucked up by one hit.
Edibles is another story and so easy to mis-calculate since it takes awhile to bloom.
To me, that's on the person, not the weed.0 -
Benefits of Indica:
1. Relieves body pain
2. Relaxes muscles
3. Relieves spasms, reduces seizures
4. Relieves headaches and migraines
5. Relieves anxiety or stress
Benefits of Sativa:
1. Feelings of well-being and at-ease
2. Up-lifting and cerebral thoughts
3. Stimulates and energizes
4. Increases focus and creativity
5. Fights depression
I think i could use both>LOL!!Post edited by cutz on0 -
It's kind of like liquor and beer. A person should have the choice some can handle it and some can't.Jeez....I feel like I'm in the Moving Train.
on the last page, someone mentioned eating cookies that put them in a "semi-retarded state".....my point is, with the new stuff, I'm not sure sure you can just get a little stoned...it seems like, one hit and you're fucked up.
maybe they make some legal weaker stuff....I just know you can have a drink or two and just be mellow...not sure that's true with legal weed.
I'd vote to decriminalize it but not make it legal.
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I'm in Oregon. I'm not excited about it. I've been buying grower direct for years.#FHP0
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I smoked more weed back in the day than all you youngsters put together.
I'm still a hippie liberal but, gotta tell you, I'm not in favor of legalized weed. this new shit is just TOO POTENT!
yeah, TOO POTENT! decriminalized, yes....legalized, no.
Too potent for YOU, so lets NOT legalize it.
relax......go smoke a bowl.....but, careful, this shit is really potent!I smoked more weed back in the day than all you youngsters put together.
I'm still a hippie liberal but, gotta tell you, I'm not in favor of legalized weed. this new shit is just TOO POTENT!
yeah, TOO POTENT! decriminalized, yes....legalized, no.
Too potent for YOU, so lets NOT legalize it.
relax......go smoke a bowl.....but, careful, this shit is really potent!
Why are you telling me to relax? I'm like really quite relaxed, You don't seem relaxed,
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If you had an opportunity to vote to legalize it or not, would you really vote to keep it from being 'truly legal'?
Jeez....I feel like I'm in the Moving Train.
on the last page, someone mentioned eating cookies that put them in a "semi-retarded state".....my point is, with the new stuff, I'm not sure sure you can just get a little stoned...it seems like, one hit and you're fucked up.
maybe they make some legal weaker stuff....I just know you can have a drink or two and just be mellow...not sure that's true with legal weed.
I'd vote to decriminalize it but not make it legal.
Right, so Because you (and some others) can't handle it, it should be only 'decriminalized'...How pathetic!
On top of that, you think they should make 'legal weaker stuff'...
X_X
If I wanna eat,smke,vape and sit in a retarded like state, then that is my own issue, my own thing.0 -
Last-12-Exit wrote: »Last-12-Exit wrote: »Quick question for those of you in Arizona or Washington: I've heard employers can still pop you with drug tests and fire you for testing positive for pot. Is that being fought? Has the supreme court ruled in that yet?
I'm not aware of anyone fighting it in Washington. Even with legal substances like alcohol an employer can still test and terminate if it is detected on the job. Add the federal prohibition to that and I don't think anyone is going to take away an employers right to test and fire you. There are a lot of companies, even companies considered "local", that piss test before hiring like Boeing and Costco. So even after legalization, nothing really changed with employers as far as the law goes.
But unlike alcohol, you can have weed in your system and not be impaired. If I go into work and take a breathalyzer and blow anything over a .00, I'm impaired. I can smoke a bowl this weekend and test positive next Friday and not be impaired at all. That's my problem with drug testing.
Oh, I'm with you there. That was another issue I had with the legalization initiative that passed here. "The initiative sets a per se DUI limit of "delta-9" THC levels at greater than or equal to 5 nanograms per milliliter of blood (5 ng/mL)." There needs to be good tests developed for impairment. I would like to see some sort of reaction test, rather than blood test. I don't care why someone is impaired (too little sleep, legal prescription drugs, pot, alcohol, fatigue, etc...). If they are impaired in a way that they can't perform, whether work duties or driving, then they fail. But there are regular, daily medical marijuana smokers who could be stone cold sober, but will still test positive in any sort of blood test, and they shouldn't be punished for that. Most MMJ patients walk around with > 5ng/mL in their system regardless of when they last smoked and regardless of whether or not they're impaired.
Great post and points. My company doesn't test, though as a daily smoker I'm sure it'd be evident in my system if they did. (plus I kick ass at my job!)
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The new stuff while strong is fine and not a reason to not decriminalize or flat out legalize. That would be the same as saying beer can be legal and outlawing everything else.
I smoke everyday but have rules. As an example never anywhere within 10 hours of work (I don't smoke after 10pm on weekdays to make sure I'm 100% sober at work). If used responsibly it is a wonderful thing that could replace a hell of a lot of prescription meds. My knees are almost shot from a heavy life of sports and my time in the Marines. A little later in life I will need to have surgery on them again (I already had round 1 on one of them when I was younger). I much rather prefer to smoke a bowl then take prescription narcotics that are easily addicting and cause many bad side effects. Even just for recreational use my kids see a huge difference in me. They don't know I smoke as that a decision they can make on their own as adults and I don't want to influence it now. But they definitely know when I am out and need to get more as my whole demeanor changes, Just the normal stress of life is relieved and it helps me spend better quality time with them as money, work and all the normal things we worry about is gone and I can focus on spending quality time with them.
The afternoon DJ on the rock radio station is a huge smoker and wants 4:20 done away with. He states we should avoid doing all the stupid shit that day to try and prove to the rest of society pot heads aren't just an SNL skit. Many of us are upstanding regular people with good jobs who live responsible lives. Instead of going to a bar after work to release stress we have another outlet. I'm very much with him on that front. Some can handle drinking, some get so bad they lose everything to the addiction. Marijuana is no different except rock bottom is getting over weight from the munchies and flaking on your responsibilities. Not nearly as bad as a hard alcoholic.Post edited by Amongst the Ani onTom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
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Cheers to this! It's a valid and valuable point.Many of us are upstanding regular people with good jobs who live responsible lives. Instead of going to a bar after work to release stress we have another outlet.
And I've said many a time - from the view of this about helping my back pain vs my recreational use - preference is for strong MJ vs pills. Between my husband and me we have a cabinet full of meds, but haven't taken any of it for quite awhile.
Actually, this is a good reminder to toss that shit. (I can't just throw it in trash, I suppose)
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Cheers to this! It's a valid and valuable point.Many of us are upstanding regular people with good jobs who live responsible lives. Instead of going to a bar after work to release stress we have another outlet.
And I've said many a time - from the view of this about helping my back pain vs my recreational use - preference is for strong MJ vs pills. Between my husband and me we have a cabinet full of meds, but haven't taken any of it for quite awhile.
Actually, this is a good reminder to toss that shit. (I can't just throw it in trash, I suppose)
No, but some pharmacies have recycling facilities for old meds. I agree though on MMJ vs pills. I'd rather have something natural in my system than some synthetic shit.0 -
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I smoked more weed back in the day than all you youngsters put together.
I'm still a hippie liberal but, gotta tell you, I'm not in favor of legalized weed. this new shit is just TOO POTENT!
yeah, TOO POTENT! decriminalized, yes....legalized, no.
Too potent for YOU, so lets NOT legalize it.
relax......go smoke a bowl.....but, careful, this shit is really potent!I smoked more weed back in the day than all you youngsters put together.
I'm still a hippie liberal but, gotta tell you, I'm not in favor of legalized weed. this new shit is just TOO POTENT!
yeah, TOO POTENT! decriminalized, yes....legalized, no.
Too potent for YOU, so lets NOT legalize it.
relax......go smoke a bowl.....but, careful, this shit is really potent!
Why are you telling me to relax? I'm like really quite relaxed, You don't seem relaxed,
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If you had an opportunity to vote to legalize it or not, would you really vote to keep it from being 'truly legal'?
Jeez....I feel like I'm in the Moving Train.
on the last page, someone mentioned eating cookies that put them in a "semi-retarded state".....my point is, with the new stuff, I'm not sure sure you can just get a little stoned...it seems like, one hit and you're fucked up.
maybe they make some legal weaker stuff....I just know you can have a drink or two and just be mellow...not sure that's true with legal weed.
I'd vote to decriminalize it but not make it legal.
Right, so Because you (and some others) can't handle it, it should be only 'decriminalized'...How pathetic!
On top of that, you think they should make 'legal weaker stuff'...
X_X
If I wanna eat,smke,vape and sit in a retarded like state, then that is my own issue, my own thing.
again, Idris.....relax.
you have your opinion, I have mine. but don't worry.....I don't really care that much, one way or the other, to be writing to my senator or protesting against or sending letters to the editor or whatever. It's just my opinion and you're awfully judgemental to label it "pathetic."
feel free to get into a semi retarded state today....I'm assuming you won't be behind the wheel.
If I had known then what I know now...
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VIC 07
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Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
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St. Paul 14, Denver 14Philly I & II, 16Denver 22
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