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  • davidosdavidos Posts: 330

    So back to the headphones conversation, I picked up some Seinheiser Momentum over ears since they were on sale this weekend at Amazon. The week prior I got the Sony MDR-V6 which are half the price. I'm now listening with both and I know it sounds crazy, but I may prefer the Sony. Everything just sounds more crisp, whereas the Momentums sound almost muffled in comparison. Am I crazy?

    No, I had the exact same experience recently... I have Audio Technica ATH-M50s and I recently bought the Momentums... sounded muffled compared to the M50s... Returning the Momentums and going to try the NAD VISO HP50s... should be here today...

  • derbydavederbydave Columbus, OHPosts: 11,119
    jjflash said:

    Rec'd an email yesterday from Pono saying mine shipped :bz
    Tracking info last had it in NJ early yesterday morning.

    GREAT news Dave...bet your excited to try this baby out!!
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  • JedJed New York CityPosts: 621
    edited December 2014
    #27 of 495 - I'll fill in the chart if I'm granted access https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fsqvz68ezE8URXUZIHkicS_XNbaE4eDrwGf58yfc2nE/edit?usp=sharing

    I got a shipment notification earlier today and when I got home it had been delivered! After all the wait, that's pretty crazy!

    My first impression was not the best, the unit seemed flimsy with all the plastic parts (Buttons and SD Card Cover) seeming pretty week. The sound did not blow me away right away, but after I added my fiio amp there was a bit of an improvement. I don't know, I'm definitely questioning the whole thing. I was expecting to be blown away. Maybe I ruined it for myself by listening to only flacs for the past few months. But still, it should have been a vast improvement over listening to flacs off the iphone. Maybe my headphones aren't as great as I though, but still there should have been a significant difference. I have the kef m500s btw.

    I'm going to try to hook it up to my home stereo and see.
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  • davidosdavidos Posts: 330
    Returned my Sennheiser Momentums and bought the NAD VISO HP50s.... WOW! Incredible headphones.... Not as harsh as my ATH-M50s and not as muffled as the Momentums... Highly Recommend!
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 16,979
    edited December 2014
    Jed said:

    #27 of 495 - I'll fill in the chart if I'm granted access https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fsqvz68ezE8URXUZIHkicS_XNbaE4eDrwGf58yfc2nE/edit?usp=sharing

    I got a shipment notification earlier today and when I got home it had been delivered! After all the wait, that's pretty crazy!

    My first impression was not the best, the unit seemed flimsy with all the plastic parts (Buttons and SD Card Cover) seeming pretty week. The sound did not blow me away right away, but after I added my fiio amp there was a bit of an improvement. I don't know, I'm definitely questioning the whole thing. I was expecting to be blown away. Maybe I ruined it for myself by listening to only flacs for the past few months. But still, it should have been a vast improvement over listening to flacs off the iphone. Maybe my headphones aren't as great as I though, but still there should have been a significant difference. I have the kef m500s btw.

    I'm going to try to hook it up to my home stereo and see.

    Everything I am reading says there is no noticeable difference between cd/flac and the hi-res audio being hyped up and pimped out

    That is why you don't notice a difference, because there isn't one

    And I love Neil Young like he is actually my Uncle... but this is all hype and bullshit

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  • camaroscamaros Posts: 986
    Jed said:
    FYI I trashed the PJ Pono Owner's list cause no one was adding to it... and cause i sold my pono, mostly because i'd much rather have a 1/4" output. I opened it up to PUBLIC again if you wanna add yerself and save it for your own use, but i'm not gonna maintain ti anymore.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fsqvz68ezE8URXUZIHkicS_XNbaE4eDrwGf58yfc2nE/edit?usp=sharing
    i like sound...
  • demetriosdemetrios canadaPosts: 55,424
    Sweet! Black Pono Player will be here tomorrow. :)
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 16,979
    edited December 2014
    camaros said:

    Jed said:
    FYI I trashed the PJ Pono Owner's list cause no one was adding to it... and cause i sold my pono, mostly because i'd much rather have a 1/4" output. I opened it up to PUBLIC again if you wanna add yerself and save it for your own use, but i'm not gonna maintain ti anymore.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fsqvz68ezE8URXUZIHkicS_XNbaE4eDrwGf58yfc2nE/edit?usp=sharing
    So far it is 10 ebay sales and 9 original owners on the list...

    I bet 75% of these end up getting flipped

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  • Not sure if this was posted yet, but here's a great link my friend sent me that actually lets you listen to 5 different tracks in high def vs compressed. You can take the test to see if you can really tell the difference and can toggle back and forth which is really cool. I think this is the first time I actually appreciated the Momentums. I couldn't tell the difference with the Sony MDR-V6 but the Momentum allowed me to get 4/5 of the test correct. Still not sure if that means I'm wasting my money since it was REALLY tough in some cases to tell the difference. Let me know what you guys think:

    http://test.tidalhifi.com/
  • Horse2345Horse2345 Posts: 2,694
    davidos said:

    Returned my Sennheiser Momentums and bought the NAD VISO HP50s.... WOW! Incredible headphones.... Not as harsh as my ATH-M50s and not as muffled as the Momentums... Highly Recommend!

    How'd you return them? Most places don't accept open headphones, i tried at futureshop and they said no.
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  • Horse2345 said:

    davidos said:

    Returned my Sennheiser Momentums and bought the NAD VISO HP50s.... WOW! Incredible headphones.... Not as harsh as my ATH-M50s and not as muffled as the Momentums... Highly Recommend!

    How'd you return them? Most places don't accept open headphones, i tried at futureshop and they said no.
    Never buy anything from anywhere other than Amazon if you are even thinking of returning them.
  • Horse2345Horse2345 Posts: 2,694

    Horse2345 said:

    davidos said:

    Returned my Sennheiser Momentums and bought the NAD VISO HP50s.... WOW! Incredible headphones.... Not as harsh as my ATH-M50s and not as muffled as the Momentums... Highly Recommend!

    How'd you return them? Most places don't accept open headphones, i tried at futureshop and they said no.
    Never buy anything from anywhere other than Amazon if you are even thinking of returning them.
    Just bought them from FS because they were $100 cheaper. I like them though , bought the HD 598 from Amazon for $113 too.
    Need to grow some more ears.
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  • jomaryjomary Posts: 383
    Still waiting for a status update beyond Order Submitted from Pono. Today is now Dec 8th and still no change. So far my confidence in this company is at an all time low.
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  • davidosdavidos Posts: 330
    Horse2345 said:

    davidos said:

    Returned my Sennheiser Momentums and bought the NAD VISO HP50s.... WOW! Incredible headphones.... Not as harsh as my ATH-M50s and not as muffled as the Momentums... Highly Recommend!

    How'd you return them? Most places don't accept open headphones, i tried at futureshop and they said no.
    Returned to Amazon...

  • demetriosdemetrios canadaPosts: 55,424
    Well, received the early bird Black Pono Player today. Small custom box. On the UPS slip it said .. Total Value For Duty .. $454.40. So .. I had to pay $105.78 for customs. Totally gutted. The early bird Black Pono Player was $215 shipped to Canada. They put $454.40 on the custom form. I sent them an email & soon a scan of the paying slip. Doubt they will do anything about it. Totally blows! :(

    Why in God's name do companies use UPS for shipping international packages? WHY? Please DO NOT use UPS!! I'm begging you. If you are shipping anything internationally, never in your LIFE use UPS.
  • Horse2345Horse2345 Posts: 2,694
    demetrios said:

    Well, received the early bird Black Pono Player today. Small custom box. On the UPS slip it said .. Total Value For Duty .. $454.40. So .. I had to pay $105.78 for customs. Totally gutted. The early bird Black Pono Player was $215 shipped to Canada. They put $454.40 on the custom form. I sent them an email & soon a scan of the paying slip. Doubt they will do anything about it. Totally blows! :(

    Why in God's name do companies use UPS for shipping international packages? WHY? Please DO NOT use UPS!! I'm begging you. If you are shipping anything internationally, never in your LIFE use UPS.

    D,
    Never pay UPS, all you have to do is get the tracking number and a copy of what you paid and bring it to a boarder agency office and self clear it. The most you should have paid was $25.
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  • tribejammer05tribejammer05 W'Ville, OHPosts: 690
    According to their address verification page, no one's put my PJ Pono together yet!
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  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 7,746
    demetrios said:

    Well, received the early bird Black Pono Player today. Small custom box. On the UPS slip it said .. Total Value For Duty .. $454.40. So .. I had to pay $105.78 for customs. Totally gutted. The early bird Black Pono Player was $215 shipped to Canada. They put $454.40 on the custom form. I sent them an email & soon a scan of the paying slip. Doubt they will do anything about it. Totally blows! :(

    Why in God's name do companies use UPS for shipping international packages? WHY? Please DO NOT use UPS!! I'm begging you. If you are shipping anything internationally, never in your LIFE use UPS.

    Yikes! That's crazy... Sorry that happened :(
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  • mwplummwplum Posts: 1,335
    That's garbage! I only had to pay $60 in UPS/Customs Fees for the PJ one, and I'm in Vancouver. Guessing your province has an HST as opposed to just the PST which we only have now on such items in BC?
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  • FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CTPosts: 828
    My Pono locked up last night while transferring music. I can't get past the "pono" screen when turning it on. I can only turn it on/off by holding down the o button. When it did work, it sounded awesome.
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  • tribejammer05tribejammer05 W'Ville, OHPosts: 690
    Blame Canada. Blame Canada. With all their hockey hullabaloo and that bitch Anne Murray too

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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UKPosts: 13,525
    That's ridiculous on the customs declaration.

    Recall a similar experience with the Munk one site and never ordered anything from there since. Bought two posters at $110 (Chicago Ed Ved both nights with same numbers) and it was declared at $350 for god knows what reason and took a good $95 equivalent hit. emailed the site and got no reply.......pretty shitty, and whilst for now they wont give a monkeys I don't buy from there anymore, who knows one day they might.
  • marjenmarjen CTPosts: 632
    Dang I failed that test. Granted I was listening through headphones on my computer, but did not notice much difference. Scored 2 correct :(
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 16,979
    marjen said:

    Dang I failed that test. Granted I was listening through headphones on my computer, but did not notice much difference. Scored 2 correct :(

    that is because there is no noticeable difference to the human ear

    viva la cd!
  • MedozKMedozK TennesseePosts: 7,070
    edited December 2014
    my2hands said:

    marjen said:

    Dang I failed that test. Granted I was listening through headphones on my computer, but did not notice much difference. Scored 2 correct :(

    that is because there is no noticeable difference to the human ear

    viva la cd!
    I think that is the reason CDs were made to be 44.1kHz. Isnt that about the top end of human hearing?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 16,979
    MedozK said:

    my2hands said:

    marjen said:

    Dang I failed that test. Granted I was listening through headphones on my computer, but did not notice much difference. Scored 2 correct :(

    that is because there is no noticeable difference to the human ear

    viva la cd!
    I think that is the reason CDs were made to be 44.1kHz. Isnt that about the top end of human hearing?
    to my understanding that is correct

  • rafierafie Posts: 2,160
    I have been having a horrible experience with the Pono customer service :-( Due to the customs issue of sending bamboo to Israel, I decided to try to have the player sent to my sister in Hawaii while my mother was recently visiting there. When I realized that the package would not arrive to Hawaii on time, I changed the address back to Israel. I did all of this on the phone with the same representative (Laura) and she verified that my address was updated. A couple of days later I got my shipping conformation and it turns out that the player was being sent to Hawaii (My mother has since returned to Israel...)! After speaking again with Laura, she said that there was nothing she could do until there was a failed shipping attempt! I called UPS and had the delivery stopped, but they said that only the shipper could recall the [package. Called pono customer service again and Laura said she would take care of it. A few hours later I got an update that the package was being sent back to the pono warehouse.
    As of now, I have no idea when I will get the player...... Total fuck up!
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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNSPosts: 7,839
    rafie said:

    I have been having a horrible experience with the Pono customer service :-( Due to the customs issue of sending bamboo to Israel, I decided to try to have the player sent to my sister in Hawaii while my mother was recently visiting there. When I realized that the package would not arrive to Hawaii on time, I changed the address back to Israel. I did all of this on the phone with the same representative (Laura) and she verified that my address was updated. A couple of days later I got my shipping conformation and it turns out that the player was being sent to Hawaii (My mother has since returned to Israel...)! After speaking again with Laura, she said that there was nothing she could do until there was a failed shipping attempt! I called UPS and had the delivery stopped, but they said that only the shipper could recall the [package. Called pono customer service again and Laura said she would take care of it. A few hours later I got an update that the package was being sent back to the pono warehouse.
    As of now, I have no idea when I will get the player...... Total fuck up!

    I got a shipping change confirmation too and then they sent it to my old address anyway.
    luckily I called UPS and they held it for me. I live in the same city so it wasn't too much of a problem.
    They need to get that shit fixed.

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  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 1,621
    my2hands said:

    MedozK said:

    my2hands said:

    marjen said:

    Dang I failed that test. Granted I was listening through headphones on my computer, but did not notice much difference. Scored 2 correct :(

    that is because there is no noticeable difference to the human ear

    viva la cd!
    I think that is the reason CDs were made to be 44.1kHz. Isnt that about the top end of human hearing?
    to my understanding that is correct

    Humans can't hear frequencies above 20 kHz. The sampling rate for CDs is set at just over double that to ensure that it captures frequencies up to, and including, 20 kHz.
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