This has to stop

Cosmo said:

A bit off topic... a couple of years ago, 'The Arcade Fire' had a gig at a liitle place in Los Angeles. You could only get tickets from the local Record Stores... First Come, First Served.
People advertised 'Places in line'. Really... people got in the line outside the Fingerprints in Long Beach and created ads on Craigs List. People were scalping places in line.
Of couse, good ol' Fingerprints caught wind of this and kicked the people out of the line.

@-)

12 pages - really ???

Pacer was right on the money here.

The majority behave. A few don't. So we want to bring back stalre lifeless seated shows as a result ?

People have queued for years but because a few people don't like numbers or a few people can't follow a simple set of rules and take the piss - we should do away with an age old tradition ? We've never had seats in Europe - so why would the band bring them in now? The band are getting electric audiences and they are thriving off it.

If people want the lottery then maybe numbers could be randomly with tickets but what about the people who do wish to put the time in and queue all day ? They get screwed because a dude joined the fan club earlier ?

I think it's perfectly feasible for the band and tenclub to expect a group of adults to organize themselves properly.

At the end of the day the important numbers are 1-50 - the rail is the key. So people arguing about numbers after that really are arguing over nothing,

I do think the disappearing for hours to sleep sucks don't get me wrong.

One question that I cant wrap my head around is how are these elitist fans going to 25-30 shows every tour? How in the hell can they afford it? Traveling and tickets and time off from work and family for every show... what! The money to follow this band to almost every show would be crazy. And how do they continue to get great tickets when so many people get shut out for their one hometown show on a tour? Something is just off about this as well. It reminds me of that story where rich New Yorkers were hiring disabled children to stand inline at Disney World so their child could get on the ride faster. Messed up.

CantKeepmedown said:

The "I have to be on the rail" people are the absolute worst. And this list bullshit has got to stop. I hope some young, aggresive buck causes a bunch of chaos when he gets told that he has to let 60 people in front of him because they are on a list and he's not. Seriously. Are there people on the board here, or in the FB group that are actually defending it? Sorry, I haven't read through this whole thread.

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You know, I don't HAVE to be on the rail... but, it sure is nice being up there so I will shoot for it whenever I get a chance.
And i know, that if I want a shot at that spot... i need to pass on a little comfort. I need to spend the day on the sidewalk.
It is the people who think they can put their name ona bullshit pice of paper and run off an do whatever they please and somehow that name on the piece of paper is the same as sitting on the sidewalk. It's not.
If people want a spot on the railing... they need to do what everyone else has to forfeit to get it.
That's all.
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P.S. I don't want to see chaos at a concert. That's why I never go to RAP Concerts.

coco butter said:

One question that I cant wrap my head around is how are these elitist fans going to 25-30 shows every tour? How in the hell can they afford it? Traveling and tickets and time off from work and family for every show... what! The money to follow this band to almost every show would be crazy. And how do they continue to get great tickets when so many people get shut out for their one hometown show on a tour? Something is just off about this as well. It reminds me of that story where rich New Yorkers were hiring disabled children to stand inline at Disney World so their child could get on the ride faster. Messed up.

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I know people who travel all over for Pearl Jam. They compile a lot of air miles to reduce air fare and know people who let them crash at their place. I let my friends from out of town crash at my pad and I drive to the gigs.
BUT... the people I know spent the day in line with me. They don't go off to Disneyland... they are there on the sidewalk with the rest of the people who don't feel priviledged.
If we have seats for the gig... then, we go to Disneyland.
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Also, they go to a few gigs... a lot more than me... but, not 25 to 30.

covered in bliss said:

Can't believe I just read that numbers matter once inside the pit. I think my head is going to explode.

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I know. Once you hit the floor... you're off and running and on your own... all things are equal.
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Feets... don't fail me, now!

coco butter said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Please fill me in on the Disneyland story.

It was a story that went nationwide last year about rich New Yorkers using disabled children to move up in long lines at Disney World. Disney had to change their policies because of the story. I have attached the link for the story.

http://nypost.com/2013/05/14/rich-manhattan-moms-hire-handicapped-tour-guides-so-kids-can-cut-lines-at-disney-world/

That is one of the saddest things I have ever read.

If I see any of you line and listers in a wheelchair before the show.....well then good for you on taking the scam a step further...

Haha

But if I see any of you line and listers in a wheelchair after the show....im gonna say you deserved it!
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Hahahaha

Thats a joke people.

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

If I see any of you line and listers in a wheelchair before the show.....well then good for you on taking the scam a step further...

Haha

But if I see any of you line and listers in a wheelchair after the show....im gonna say you deserved it!
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Hahahaha

Thats a joke people.

) @ "taking the scam a step further.....
that's hilarious

then they will be miraculously healed when the doors open.

RS151862 said:

callen said:

Pacer, so just suck it up huh? BS.

I don't see anywhere in his statement where he said suck it up. His advice is right. Stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and concentrate on creating your own good time.

Self entitled people will always find a way to turn any situation into their advantage. That will never change, and they will never believe its wrong.

So instead of worrying about something that will never be fixed just relax and enjoy the experience.

I think that is saying suck it up too. But to me that just spells apathy, which continues to allow others to abuse a system to the disadvantage of others. I'm glad many people don't always just say "whatever". If everyone did that then nothing would ever change for the better. I see this whole situation as an injustice. Sure, it's a very minor injustice in the scheme of things, but an injustice nevertheless. It's my view that all injustices should be confronted and, hopefully, eliminated. I hope people start standing up to these jackasses. Or that 10C comes up with some simple way to disallow the list. It would be simple. Not sure why you think this is something that will never be fixed. It would actually be very easy to fix it, if someone would only do it.