I cannot believe people are stupid enough to queue for that long and keep a list.
Each show I've had early entry to has had about 100 people in the line max.
It all becomes irrelevant anyway when the non fan club GA's are let in.
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London 18th June 2007
Manchester 17th August 2009
Los Angeles 1st October 2009
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Leeds 8th July 2014
Milton Keynes 11th July 2014
I haven't received the email...but I'm happy that it's out there for those people who sit on their ass all night and day and night earning their way into the front row...opposed to the select elitist assholes who think they are better than anyone else.
Props to 10C for taking action.
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Really? Because I find it impossible to believe that 10c would threaten to kick people.out of 10c for something they are doing outside a venue. Or that they wouldn't do something good to show people that it's an official statement.
You know what, you and I are gonna fight at the next pj show.
Really? Because I find it impossible to believe that 10c would threaten to kick people.out of 10c for something they are doing outside a venue. Or that they wouldn't do something good to show people that it's an official statement.
You know what, you and I are gonna fight at the next pj show.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
• Sending fans to the back of the line • Revoking early access wristbands • Revoking memberships • No more early entry offered to the Ten Club"
That last line....are they referring to those abusing the line could be denied early entry or that early entry for all Ten Club members could end if this continues? That'd be a shitstorm if the latter happened.
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The letter is 100% real. I saw it firsthand in Amsterdam. The 10c member I bought my ticket from had it with him and showed me. The whole notion of this list is complete bullshit and I just hope when PJ come back to my area, people have the balls to speak up to anyone trying to cut in line. Although I've never seen it here.
Lol, in don't doubt that it is 100% a sheet of paper with a typed message on it. I didn't think it was only a digital or holographic image of a letter, haha. Did 10c write it and distribute it? Seriously doubt it. They would have done a better job and not made hollow threats in it.
The letter is 100% real. I saw it firsthand in Amsterdam. The 10c member I bought my ticket from had it with him and showed me. The whole notion of this list is complete bullshit and I just hope when PJ come back to my area, people have the balls to speak up to anyone trying to cut in line. Although I've never seen it here.
Lol, in don't doubt that it is 100% a sheet of paper with a typed message on it. I didn't think it was only a digital or holographic image of a letter, haha. Did 10c write it and distribute it? Seriously doubt it. They would have done a better job and not made hollow threats in it.
Try again...
Hey, I already ate my humble pie. No need to rub it in, lol.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
• Sending fans to the back of the line • Revoking early access wristbands • Revoking memberships • No more early entry offered to the Ten Club"
That last line....are they referring to those abusing the line could be denied early entry or that early entry for all Ten Club members could end if this continues? That'd be a shitstorm if the latter happened.
I take it to mean every single 10c member. Now I also don't see the point of revoking it if ga is just 10c anyways.
• Sending fans to the back of the line • Revoking early access wristbands • Revoking memberships • No more early entry offered to the Ten Club"
That last line....are they referring to those abusing the line could be denied early entry or that early entry for all Ten Club members could end if this continues? That'd be a shitstorm if the latter happened.
I take it to mean every single 10c member. Now I also don't see the point of revoking it if ga is just 10c anyways.
Oops, fucked up quoting.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
• Sending fans to the back of the line • Revoking early access wristbands • Revoking memberships • No more early entry offered to the Ten Club"
That last line....are they referring to those abusing the line could be denied early entry or that early entry for all Ten Club members could end if this continues? That'd be a shitstorm if the latter happened.
I take it to mean every single 10c member. Now I also don't see the point of revoking it if ga is just 10c anyways.
I took it to mean for everyone too. I don't see the point either, with all 10c GA. It would either mean that people just line up at the GA entrance and get in half an hour later, which makes no difference, or GA entry would be through every door, which would probably lead to lines at multiple doors and then multiple races to the pit through all the fans with seats when doors opened, so that would just be creating a new problem. Not fair to punish everyone because of the actions of a few.... better solution would to just have a 10c rep come out and send anyone with a number on their hand or with their name on a list to the back of the line before the doors were opened.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
A big thanks to Ten Club for sending out the e-mail. I really hope this list and numbers bullshit is over from now on )
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Very interested to see what happens at the next show. Hopefully 10c is serious enough to work with venue security to ensure these lists are dead and buried.
Would love it like Springsteen. He does this. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN & THE E STREET BAND GENERAL ADMISSION PIT LINE 1. On the day of the show, sequentially numbered wristbands will be distributed beginning at 2:00 PM at the gate. Wristbands will be distributed until 5:00 PM. 2. A starting number will be randomly picked at 5:15 PM; this will be announced and displayed on a placard at the gate. No more wristbands will be distributed after 5:00 PM. 3. 5:30 PM - All fans with GA tickets and a wristband should begin lining-up in numerical order, beginning with the announced number. The line will be escorted into the GA Pit Area in front of the stage approximately 10 minutes before the rest of the patrons are allowed to enter the venue. 4. One wristband per patron and the patron must also be in possession of a GA ticket. 5. A wristband and a GA ticket are required to enter the GA Pit Area in front of the stage. 6. The starting number will be drawn randomly at 5:15 PM by a fan. The fan holding the wristband that matches the starting number drawn will be first in line (i.e. if #'s 1 - 100 were issued and number 10 was drawn, the line would start with 10, then 11, 12, 13 through 100 then 1-9). When the starting number is announced, the line will shift accordingly. 7. The purpose of the random number distribution is to insure that all fans have the same chance of being first in line, eliminating the need to camp out. This policy also helps to insure customer safety and provides for an effective means of crowd control. 9. Anyone who receives a numbered wristband between 2:00 PM and 5:00 PM has a chance to be first in line to enter the Pit Area, but a wristband does not guarantee a place in the Pit Area. 10. Wristbands will be issued and affixed to the patron’s wrist only after the patron's ticket has been verified a GA ticket. NO WRISTBANDS WILL BE ISSUED AT THE GA PIT ENTRANCE ON THE FLOOR WITHIN THE VENUE. PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT NO PATRON, FAN, OR CLUB RUN LIST WILL BE HONORED BY TOUR PERSONNEL, SECURITY OR BUILDING PERSONNEL! The above procedures will be implemented and supervised by touring personnel.
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Ensure: make certain that (something) shall occur or be the case
I expect more from The Boss. I like his system though. No need to waste your day in line. No sketchy list. Randomized GA Entry so different folks get the rail each night. Minimize the need for security or band management to monitor a line or list all day.
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Very interested to see what happens at the next show. Hopefully 10c is serious enough to work with venue security to ensure these lists are dead and buried.
I can't wait to hear if it has an impact as well. Unfortunately, many people will not change their behavior unless there is a negative consequence. Hopefully, this is will help put an end to the "ridiculist".
By the way, I found it more than amusing that the aforementioned weasley little beady eyed fuck in the blue hat running the list at Amsterdam 1 had #1 on his hand. At least give yourself #5 or something so you don't look like such an I-got-mine dick! I know it's been pretty much solved at this point, I just can't get over how fucked up this whole list this is.
Doesn't matter if it's real or not. Get in line stay there. Really simple.
Exactly. None of this "Oh, I was here for ten minutes at midnight and fifteen minutes at six AM, so I should be able to waltz right up past people who were here non-stop since 8:30 AM.
NOW...a list should do one thing: Keep proof of the line in the case the line has to be moved to another area. This way, people can get back in line in the same exact order. Likewise, if someone has to leave for a QUICK MOMENT if they have to pee or get food, they can get back in their same spot..but a quick moment is exactly that...15 minutes tops. Get back in line for another 3-4 hours then take another quick break.
A line is like work. Don't expect to show up to work at 8 AM, take a 2-hour coffee break, come back to your desk for 15 minutes, take an hour lunch, then work for an hour and expect to be paid for a full day's work...it doesn't happen that way.
agree. the list idea is fair, but a lot of selfish people take advantage of their fellow fans. the list is there for a 15 minute food or bathroom break. an hourly roll call would help.
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I cannot believe people are stupid enough to queue for that long and keep a list.
Each show I've had early entry to has had about 100 people in the line max.
It all becomes irrelevant anyway when the non fan club GA's are let in.
..... 10C has to work on their presentation maybe, lol. People shouldn't have doubts about the authenticity of important messages like this.
But yes pj security have been watching the list - certainly were in Berlin.
Not that it matters - the email is out - so the position is very clear.
Hope it runs nice and smooth
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Props to 10C for taking action.
• Sending fans to the back of the line
• Revoking early access wristbands
• Revoking memberships
• No more early entry offered to the Ten Club"
That last line....are they referring to those abusing the line could be denied early entry or that early entry for all Ten Club members could end if this continues? That'd be a shitstorm if the latter happened.
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BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN & THE E STREET BAND
GENERAL ADMISSION PIT LINE
1. On the day of the show, sequentially numbered wristbands will be distributed beginning at 2:00 PM at the gate. Wristbands will be distributed until 5:00 PM.
2. A starting number will be randomly picked at 5:15 PM; this will be announced and displayed on a placard at the gate. No more wristbands will be distributed after 5:00 PM.
3. 5:30 PM - All fans with GA tickets and a wristband should begin lining-up in numerical order, beginning with the announced number. The line will be escorted into the GA Pit Area in front of the stage approximately 10 minutes before the rest of the patrons are allowed to enter the venue.
4. One wristband per patron and the patron must also be in possession of a GA ticket.
5. A wristband and a GA ticket are required to enter the GA Pit Area in front of the stage.
6. The starting number will be drawn randomly at 5:15 PM by a fan. The fan holding the wristband that matches the starting number drawn will be first in line (i.e. if #'s 1 - 100 were issued and number 10 was drawn, the line would start with 10, then 11, 12, 13 through 100 then 1-9). When the starting number is announced, the line will shift accordingly.
7. The purpose of the random number distribution is to insure that all fans have the same chance of being first in line, eliminating the need to camp out. This policy also helps to insure customer safety and provides for an effective means of crowd control.
9. Anyone who receives a numbered wristband between 2:00 PM and 5:00 PM has a chance to be first in line to enter the Pit Area, but a wristband does not guarantee a place in the Pit Area.
10. Wristbands will be issued and affixed to the patron’s wrist only after the patron's ticket has been verified a GA ticket.
NO WRISTBANDS WILL BE ISSUED AT THE GA PIT ENTRANCE ON THE FLOOR WITHIN THE VENUE.
PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT
NO PATRON, FAN, OR CLUB RUN LIST WILL BE HONORED BY TOUR PERSONNEL, SECURITY OR BUILDING PERSONNEL!
The above procedures will be implemented and supervised by touring personnel.
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Ensure: make certain that (something) shall occur or be the case
I expect more from The Boss. I like his system though. No need to waste your day in line. No sketchy list. Randomized GA Entry so different folks get the rail each night. Minimize the need for security or band management to monitor a line or list all day.