This has to stop

BinFrog

Indifference71 said:

No matter what system the 10c has in place, there will always be those people who will do whatever it takes to get to the front. It's crazy.

When being seen by the band has become more important than seeing the band, maybe it's time to take a year or two off from going to multiple shows.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

BinFrog said:

Indifference71 said:

No matter what system the 10c has in place, there will always be those people who will do whatever it takes to get to the front. It's crazy.

When being seen by the band has become more important than seeing the band, maybe it's time to take a year or two off from going to multiple shows.

Ya got that right!

Plus its time to go see a shrink.
hahahahaha

BCBA

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Indifference71 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

BCBA said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Exactly.
There is ABUSE
We all know there is abuse.
There was abuse for those shows last fall in the USA.
And EVERYONE knows it.

definitely.

I believe this current ticketing system swings the door wide open for people to ensure they get to the front, as long as they are sleazy enough about it.

1st 20 rows lottery IMO would be the best

A few years back I truly thought the 1st 20 rows being lottery would be a great thing. of course there were people who wanted me to just go to hell....But hey, that's ok...hehehe

Then when the G.A. lottery came about, I again though this would be a great thing. But as time goes by, its not all that great. At least from where I sit.

It has turned 10club members into lunatics.

No matter what system the 10c has in place, there will always be those people who will do whatever it takes to get to the front. It's crazy.

True.
But if you went 20 rows lottery.
20 rows of SEATS and not GA.
There would be no room for the abuse that now goes on with the GA.
Plus it would stop most of the insanity that has now come about, due to the GA.

I agree with you 100%. I think it slams the door on a lot of what is being obviously exploited

jervin007

I arrived in line an hour before doors opened in Worcester last fall and was still in the first 4-5 rows. I'd never been that close and had a blast. If people want to fight for the rail be my guest, I have zero interest in having the opportunity to drink out of eddies wine bottle.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

In my eyes, from where I sit.
20 rows lottery would just work out better.
PLUS you don't have to inform the winners until they pick up the tickets, right? Like the old days. People would be back to using their 10club number for seats, and being HAPPY to just be in the house. You would no longer have people FOAMING AT THE MOUTH over these G.A. seats. People could just use their 10club numbers and 500-1000 people would be happy when they realized they got within the 1st 20 rows.

Of course this theory doesn't work for people who have had low 10club numbers for the last 20 years, and will now not be in their precious 1st row seats.

But HEY! Those people were already SCREWED by the G.A. lottery!!!!

)

mcgruff10

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

BCBA said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Exactly.
There is ABUSE
We all know there is abuse.
There was abuse for those shows last fall in the USA.
And EVERYONE knows it.

definitely.

I believe this current ticketing system swings the door wide open for people to ensure they get to the front, as long as they are sleazy enough about it.

1st 20 rows lottery IMO would be the best

A few years back I truly thought the 1st 20 rows being lottery would be a great thing. of course there were people who wanted me to just go to hell....But hey, that's ok...hehehe

Then when the G.A. lottery came about, I again though this would be a great thing. But as time goes by, its not all that great. At least from where I sit.

It has turned 10club members into lunatics.

100% agree. As usual a small minority of the fans ruin it for the majority.

a5pj

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

In my eyes, from where I sit.
20 rows lottery would just work out better.
PLUS you don't have to inform the winners until they pick up the tickets, right? Like the old days. People would be back to using their 10club number for seats, and being HAPPY to just be in the house. You would no longer have people FOAMING AT THE MOUTH over these G.A. seats. People could just use their 10club numbers and 500-1000 people would be happy when they realized they got within the 1st 20 rows.

Of course this theory doesn't work for people who have had low 10club numbers for the last 20 years, and will now not be in their precious 1st row seats.

But HEY! Those people were already SCREWED by the G.A. lottery!!!!

)

I like it, or do 1 night all lottery 1 night regular if doing a 2 nighter in one city.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

mcgruff10 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

BCBA said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Exactly.
There is ABUSE
We all know there is abuse.
There was abuse for those shows last fall in the USA.
And EVERYONE knows it.

definitely.

I believe this current ticketing system swings the door wide open for people to ensure they get to the front, as long as they are sleazy enough about it.

1st 20 rows lottery IMO would be the best

A few years back I truly thought the 1st 20 rows being lottery would be a great thing. of course there were people who wanted me to just go to hell....But hey, that's ok...hehehe

Then when the G.A. lottery came about, I again though this would be a great thing. But as time goes by, its not all that great. At least from where I sit.

It has turned 10club members into lunatics.

100% agree. As usual a small minority of the fans ruin it for the majority.

The whole "G.A or Bust" mentality is just weird, in my eyes. I have friends here, who for 10 years were more than happy with their 10club number, and where their seats were located, according to that 10club number. They went to the shows, opened their envelope, and were more than happy with their seats. No matter where those seats were located, at any given venue.

NOW?
FUCK THAT 10CLUB NUMBER!!!!
I WANT G.A. OR IM NOT GOING!!!!!!!

Just weird.

BCBA

Yeah.
Best way to do it, is just do the straight up lottery for the tickets, location will be assigned based on seniority

1st 20 rows of floor in seated area will be randomly assigned and wont be disclosed until tickets are picked up.

Solves all problems and will ensure a new crowd up front every show. Everyone is happy.

ldent42

Fuck that. GA = in order of height. Short ppl in the front, tall ppl in the back. :-D

SPEEDY MCCREADY

BCBA said:

Yeah.
Best way to do it, is just do the straight up lottery for the tickets, location will be assigned based on seniority

1st 20 rows of floor in seated area will be randomly assigned and wont be disclosed until tickets are picked up.

Solves all problems and will ensure a new crowd up front every show. Everyone is happy.

Yeah, I have always liked this idea.
Yet, G.A. was a damned good idea too.
But G.A? . It created a monster.

PJinIL

ldent42 said:

Fuck that. GA = in order of height. Short ppl in the front, tall ppl in the back. :-D

=D>

Yes! It's a pipedream, but I'm with ya! I know there are lots of peeps shorter than me, but there are way more people taller than me (5'6"). I had reserved seats in the fall on the floor and could hardly see through the trees. Not complaining, I loved the shows. What was the quote many moons ago from the Aussie tour "Hail Hail the lucky ones, I refer to those who are tall". EV on Luc Longley, I believe? lol....

badbrains

BCBA said:

Yeah.
Best way to do it, is just do the straight up lottery for the tickets, location will be assigned based on seniority

1st 20 rows of floor in seated area will be randomly assigned and wont be disclosed until tickets are picked up.

Solves all problems and will ensure a new crowd up front every show. Everyone is happy.

Works for me and I have a shitty num cuz like a fucktard, I let my 110XXX lapse years ago. But it seems to be the fairest way. Different people up front at every show, how refreshing would that be for the band.

CM189191

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

BinFrog said:

Indifference71 said:

No matter what system the 10c has in place, there will always be those people who will do whatever it takes to get to the front. It's crazy.

When being seen by the band has become more important than seeing the band, maybe it's time to take a year or two off from going to multiple shows.

Ya got that right!

Plus its time to go see a shrink.
hahahahaha

http://youtu.be/IrCEhRNgGHY

shortstack

ldent42 said:

Fuck that. GA = in order of height. Short ppl in the front, tall ppl in the back. :-D

i'd be okay with that.

i wish it would go back to one show per tour, F5 (or just working for it), seniority seating, and lottery for rows 1,2, 9, and 10.

20 rows is too much. and it wouldn't solve 10club's "real" problem. you'd be fitting way less people in the smaller spot GA takes.

i had a hard time finding someone to go with me to the few shows i was able to attend when i had decent seats, i'll never get anyone to go with me with this GA crap now.

BCBA

Lost In Ohio said:

MayDay10 said:

So how are people scoring GA tickets for every show anyways? I cant even get one show.

Ticket buddies. Go to shows, meet new friends. Stagger your tickets with those of your friends, new and old. For example, your options for a random tour might be:
Buffalo GA
Cleveland GA
Pittsburgh GA
Detroit GA
Buffalo Reserved
Cleveland Reserved
Pittsburgh Reserved
Detroit Reserved

Their selections would be basically the exact opposite order. A third buddy might randomize that and a fourth buddy would have the opposite of the third.

If you happen to win reserved and really want the GA, ask around to swap.


OR....if they play LA two nights in row:
LA 1 Seats
LA 2 Pit
LA 2 Seats
LA 1 Pit

Knowing how the system works, it would be foolish (IMO), to put all your eggs into the basket of one night, so to speak. Likewise, get your ticket buddy to do the exact opposite of what you select.



...makes sense??

my issue I guess is I have no ticket buddies. So people have many times the opportunity as I do? It seems there are people well connected here, which is cool, but I am not plugged in. When I go to shows, its usually with my boyfriend, or friends who arent in the 10 club. I can have my boyfriend create an account... but he isnt really that into it, and I dont want to end up with extra pairs.

I look at the live forum and Lost Dogs and only see people offering extra GA tickets only for other GA tickets...

And im sure this list cartel has a decent network of dummy accounts set up to make it possible they get to all these shows.

It just reeks and is simply unfair.

BinFrog

They stand there with a list
But we don’t know where from they exist
Like a self-important tribe of greedy fans
Looking for a spot in line
they said "Have you got your wrist band yet?"
And whatever you reply, you get denied

Now they come out to "lead"
With their completely bogus creed
and soon you’ve gone down on your knees and then you’ll beg
And then before you know the list is obesely overgrown
With all the lowely numbered thugs who've gone to party

You gotta know you’ll never get the rail
They're the list brigade!
List brigade!
List brigade!

Always up front and never reserved
Isn’t there a way it ought to be...to be?
Flipping off the list creators
And others when you knew how not to be
Yeah Yeah
Until the GA queue sets you free!

You gotta know you’ll never get the rail
They're the list brigade!
List brigade!
List brigade!

The building stormy angst erodes the legitimacy every day
Of some stupid f***ing list with no command
They hold their ugly list as their means to ride the rail
Hoping for their 47th pick
And with 10C nowhere in sight
There is no-one to deny
As they hold their spot in line with such command
And the show will soon arrive as they yet again thrive
And hope that once again they can share Ed's wine

A-yeah!… A-yeah!… A-yeah!
Never sign he list!
It's a bogus list!
Never sign he list!
It's fake!

It's ridiculous!
They're the list brigade!
Uncontrollable
Stop them!

*Mikey rips a solo*

backseatLover12

Get rid of GA!!! Bring back seated rows with lottery for rows 1,2,8,9!!!

Problem solved.

ldent42

I have res tickets for fall. I have never had res on my own account so I dunno how the seats will be. I was in the back of the floor once & it was really not great. I want to trade them for GA cuz I'm probably gonna be going alone to this show & is easier to find someone to buy a single GA then a single res.

badbrains

BinFrog said:

They stand there with a list
But we don’t know where from they exist
Like a self-important tribe of greedy fans
Looking for a spot in line
they said "Have you got your wrist band yet?"
And whatever you reply, you get denied

Now they come out to "lead"
With their completely bogus creed
and soon you’ve gone down on your knees and then you’ll beg
And then before you know the list is obesely overgrown
With all the lowely numbered thugs who've gone to party

You gotta know you’ll never get the rail
They're the list brigade!
List brigade!
List brigade!

Always up front and never reserved
Isn’t there a way it ought to be...to be?
Flipping off the list creators
And others when you knew how not to be
Yeah Yeah
Until the GA queue sets you free!

You gotta know you’ll never get the rail
They're the list brigade!
List brigade!
List brigade!

The building stormy angst erodes the legitimacy every day
Of some stupid f***ing list with no command
They hold their ugly list as their means to ride the rail
Hoping for their 47th pick
And with 10C nowhere in sight
There is no-one to deny
As they hold their spot in line with such command
And the show will soon arrive as they yet again thrive
And hope that once again they can share Ed's wine

A-yeah!… A-yeah!… A-yeah!
Never sign he list!
It's a bogus list!
Never sign he list!
It's fake!

It's ridiculous!
They're the list brigade!
Uncontrollable
Stop them!

*Mikey rips a solo*

Brilliant!!! Or as speedy would say- EPIC!!!! =D>