HBO: True Detective

Ok, looks like the reason I thought it was 2 hours is because it's on at 8pm this Sunday and re-airs at 10pm.

I had a few beers last night.

That would be great.

it's defininitly gonna be exciting to see how it all ties together.

not too sure what'll happen with cohle....i'm more inclined to think hart will lose his shit and go on a rampage when his family's (or is it his own?) involvement is revealed

mca47 said:

I just don't get how they are going to wrap this up in an hour.
There is still so much to do....

Hopefully, they won't wrap it up too much. Most of what makes this show good is that it's left open for the viewer's interpretation. Plus, an hour isn't enough time to wrap everything up, so the finale would be a poorly executed mess and there would be less time for bouncy boobies..

pretty damn cool...

McConaughey Reveals the Four Stages of 'True Detective' Rustin Cohle

Oscar winner talks about charting the show's hero from crack cop to cracked-up

By JONATHAN RINGEN
MARCH 4, 2014 3:30 PM ET

When Matthew McConaughey was preparing for the psychedelically complex character he plays in HBO's twisted, acclaimed True Detective (the final episode airs on Sunday), he made a monster document to help him find his way. The show spans 17 years, during which time Rustin "Rust" Cohle variously exists as a sober, hyperanalytical homicide detective, a coke-and-meth-fueled undercover agent he calls "Crash" and a troubled, alcoholic ex-cop. "I just basically broke it down and made a 450-page graph of where Cohle was and where he was coming from," McConaughey says, flipping through the document until he gets to part he's looking for.

The Dark Thrills of 'True Detective'

Here, in McConaughey's own words, are the "Four Stages of Rustin Cohle":

1995 Cohle
"Back to being a part of the body. He's coming off of years being Crash. He's trying to walk the line. Monk-like. Trying to hold it together. And that's a lot easier with less interaction with others. There's a mechanical side to him. He needs the regimen of the homicide detective. He needs the case to actually survive. One, because he's great at it. And two, because it's going to keep him from killing himself."

Crash
"He's our deep, narco wild-ass. A guy who goes all the way. This is where Cohle has all the freedom. He can go over the edge as this guy. And inside, he loves the life of Crash even more, because the shackles are off of him. He knows he may die sooner living this life, but there's a freedom and peace in that knowledge for him."

2002 Cohle
"A little looser mix of Crash and the '95 Cohle. A guy who's made his boundaries clear and has to mark less territory, so he's relaxed into his way in the world. But the case is still his lifeline. He has some small hope that there's going to be a way out of his being and pain and criticism, so he makes an effort into domesticity, a la the girlfriend. Only to prove that he was not made for it, and there is no way out. So what does he do? He resigns to his nature, once again."

2012 Cohle.
"This guy lived longer than he hoped. Fallen prey to his own beliefs. More cynical, angrier, he's had to endure the existence of this shitstorm called life. A little ragged, more rough edges, living in a place where he can manage himself. Not too close. He's not in the CID. But he's not in Alaska. He's a guy who's resigned to his indentured servitude of being alive. But he despises the sentence and the penance. He will not accept defeat. He's not going become a madman, he's not going to kill himself. He wrestles the devil every day, and he realizes that this may last a lot longer than he ever hoped for."

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/mcconaughey-reveals-the-four-stages-of-true-detective-rustin-cohle-20140304

The Juggler said:

prism said:

it's defininitly gonna be exciting to see how it all ties together.

not too sure what'll happen with cohle....i'm more inclined to think hart will lose his shit and go on a rampage when his family's (or is it his own?) involvement is revealed

come on....you think hart or hart's family is involved?

lots of little things pointing to Hart's wife and/or family involved. one interesting point I read about last weeks episode is that when Hart's wife showed up at the bar to talk to Cohle there was a reflection of a deer with antlers in the window and she was wearing a yellow shirt. I have to re-watch to see that but that is very interesting. and why did she seem so interested in Marty helping Cohle then show up to talk to Cohle after 10 years?

God damn it. I feel like I need to rewatch this entire season now. That's what I get for starting episodes when I'm already a little sleepy.

Yeah...the writers also want to keep the audience guessing so it makes sense to make every character seem a little suspicious.

JK_Livin said:

I think we're over thinking everything. The only substantial clue to Harts family being involved is when his daughter had the dolls set up. I don't think you can bring his family, the lawn mower guy's family, the new cops and all the shit we already know to a satisfying conclusion in 55 minutes. I'm hoping I'm wrong.

couple of questions:
how did Maggie know where the bar was that Cohle was working at to pay him the visit last episode?

did they ever say if Maggie was re-married and if so to whom?

the connection with lawnmower man has to come from the school.

another interesting point about Maggie including what I wrote above is in the previous episode before last week when she found the pictures and served Marty dinner she gave him...spaghetti. which I believe is the 2nd time she has been shown to be serving spaghetti. tie with spaghetti like face? very interesting.


and Juggler agree on the theme music. perfect for the mood of the show. HBO really does a great job on all their shows with the music they include.

pjhawks said:

I will also add that this show has a phenomenal theme song. I hope they keep it next year but I doubt they will

Yeah, I love the theme song!