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  • jd44jammin
    jd44jammin Posts: 66
    Im with Dimi on this one....I don't come on the site nearly as much as I used to because its difficult to read and navigate. I don't understand all the Facebook references because I'm not on there but if this forum is going to be more integrated with Facebook 10c is alienating non Facebook users. I don't understand what was wrong with the old format.

  • jimbojones1138
    jimbojones1138 Posts: 3,640
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Maybe this change is a step towards phasing out the message board. Drive folks to social media. I don't think it is true but the thought crossed my mind.
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    I agree Dimitris, but email that original post to info@tenclub.net. You're more likely to get an actual response from the people you are directing your post to.
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,969
    bootlegger10 said:

    Maybe this change is a step towards phasing out the message board. Drive folks to social media. I don't think it is true but the thought crossed my mind.

    to much social media on this lp yeah?
    i fear for that too..
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Thank you, Dimitris. Well said!

    With all due respect 10C, I think its time to listen. The people have spoken!
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  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    Changing back because of user feedback is not uncommon. Twitter just did it last month: http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/12/twitter-says-new-policy-which-allows-blocked-users-to-follow-interact-with-tweets-is-to-prevent-retaliation/
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,214
    whilst agree wholeheartedly that the new forum isn't an upgrade in any sense,

    I do believe that to the tenclub we probably are just 'paying customers', after all it is us that enjoys the community spirit that the site has generated us. The fact that we are paying customers first and foremost is no bad thing anyway, and I certainly wouldn't blame them for thinking that way - they are a small run unit whom try to keep running this thing through revenue raised.
  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    jrnyc said:

    I can't believe anyone who saw this new site before it went live didn't jump up and down and ask the people who designed it " What the EFF is this???".

    That's what I thought too imageimage Wouldn't you make a check to see how it goes before you finally deliver? I mean even the mods are frequent users, they must get frustrated with this as well...
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  • shortstack
    shortstack Posts: 2,339
    23scidoo said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    Maybe this change is a step towards phasing out the message board. Drive folks to social media. I don't think it is true but the thought crossed my mind.

    to much social media on this lp yeah?
    i fear for that too..
    yup.

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  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    Dimitris is dead on. This new forum is built on Vanilla Forum and it is not a bad forum platform...but this new layout is a result of poor execution on so many levels. I'm not speaking as just some Monday morning quarterback...webdesign, development and deployment is a big part of my business and has been for over 17 years. I have used Vanilla with solid integration on a few sites, and none of them look or feel like this garbled mess. You definitely need someone with some CSS knowledge to not only tighten up the layout but just make the flow of everything better. Get some help from people who actually know what they are doing....please!
  • shortstack
    shortstack Posts: 2,339
    i blame the facebookerz
    did you see me? i saw you.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Shawshank said:

    You definitely need someone with some CSS knowledge to not only tighten up the layout but just make the flow of everything better. Get some help from people who actually know what they are doing....please!

  • shep
    shep Houston Posts: 5,900
    Shawshank said:

    Dimitris is dead on. This new forum is built on Vanilla Forum and it is not a bad forum platform...but this new layout is a result of poor execution on so many levels. I'm not speaking as just some Monday morning quarterback...webdesign, development and deployment is a big part of my business and has been for over 17 years. I have used Vanilla with solid integration on a few sites, and none of them look or feel like this garbled mess. You definitely need someone with some CSS knowledge to not only tighten up the layout but just make the flow of everything better. Get some help from people who actually know what they are doing....please!



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    Where have you been the last few years? If we've learned anything about the 10C we know they do everything internally (whether or not they have the knowledge or experience), out source nothing, botch up 1/2 the implementation, never admit they did anything wrong or that outside expertise could have helped, and perform slight updates or improvements that never really fix the initial problems and then we all live with the mistakes.

    In short, unless you're offering your time or expertise, it'll be about 3 years before someone who works at 10C figures out how to program the new platform and the issues are fixed.

    you're welcome for the synopsis. :)>-
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  • ItIsAllAboutPJ
    ItIsAllAboutPJ S.B., CA Posts: 829
    Dimitris has the sentiment of this board just right.............. it's a family and you don't mess with family! :-(
    No matter how much we may fight and argue, we love each other and we love talking about our passion for this band!

    I find myself squinting the entire time I'm here even when I increase the font size.
    I like the color coded blocks we had before and the easy format. This is very cold and sterile.

    Please make us whole again by bring back the old un-broken board , or do some major fixing on this one.

    Respectfully,
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  • boyo79
    boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    I must be the only one who likes the new layout. I'm really not finding it difficult too use or read posts and using it on my smartphone is 100% better than it used too be. Everytime Facebook or Twitter changes stuff there is uproar but give it a few weeks and everyone gets used to it and stops complaining.
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  • ItIsAllAboutPJ
    ItIsAllAboutPJ S.B., CA Posts: 829
    edited January 2014
    =))

    Thanks.... I needed that!
  • jlaustin
    jlaustin Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,355
    I am not on social media, so I really hope that isn't what this forum is leading to...

    I really miss the color coding of the old forum. I appreciate that I can have an avatar now and post pics easier, but would give that up to have the old forum format back. Thank you, Dimitris for expressing what many of us are feeling.
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  • P34RL J4MM3R
    P34RL J4MM3R Posts: 1,342
    jlaustin said:

    I am not on social media, so I really hope that isn't what this forum is leading to...

    I really miss the color coding of the old forum. I appreciate that I can have an avatar now and post pics easier, but would give that up to have the old forum format back. Thank you, Dimitris for expressing what many of us are feeling.

    Agreed, I'm not on Facebook or Twitter or any of that, this is my sole avenue for PJ news and connection. Wish it made things better for all of us.

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