Bored as this conference call drones on. For a good laugh I looked back to see some reactions to the howard contract. Enjoy
THIS IS A GREAT DAY GENTLEMEN!
-Juggler
Really? You think its a good idea to lock up a slugging first baseman a year before he is to become a free agent for what is going to be the highest contract in the league in terms of AAV? Especially in this market with the contract taking him to 37. Don't get me wrong he is an outstanding player, but this contract is absurd.
-Cliff
don't forget ..he came up big in the series
-Neily (referring to howards' epic 2009 WS performance, which earned him WS MVP. For the yanks)
lot of money---yes. but i am just thrilled we were able to keep him here. he's a better all around player today than he was 3 years ago. his defense is much, much improved. he's lost a lot of weight and is in better all around shape and is right in the prime of his career. i love it.
-Juggler (pom poms were in full effect back in 2010)
Great deal,love that he should retire a philly.
-jammin
I hear you, he is a great player, that is just too much for too long in my opinion. There is no need to extend him a year and a half early for that money or time, its just not good business.
-cliff
Too much for too long arwe u serious? 5yrs at 25 million is a great deal for a 30yr. The norm anymore is these insane 10yr contracts gettn him locked up until 2016 is perfect.if he hit the market he probably could have gotten a 5-7yr deal for 25-30 mill a season.great deal ruben.
-jammin (the guy who claims he always hated this contract :roll: :roll: )
I absoultey hate this contract. type of deal that sends teams into rebuilding mode. Hate it, hate it, hate it
-Fixer
I could care less about stars playing here. I want the phils to win. this deal restricts them from winning once it kicks in.
majored in econ...you don't make deals that result in diminishing returns, which this contract surely will. dumb, dumb, dumb.
everyone loves amaro because he's winning with what gillick built. his deals are questionable at best.
-Fixer
my howard contract analysis...
he's now 2nd highest paid player in baseball (per year).
he's 3rd best player on his team
in a nutshell...too many years, deal offered two years too early, too much money
not a good move
-Fixer
sabermetrics are for geeks.
-juggler
so rbi's are meaningless huh? the main run producing stat this sport has used for the past 130 some years doesn't count for anything? riigggggght. comments like that is proof positive why sabermetrics is a bit of a croc. that rob neyer guy had a list of 20 or more players who are better than ryan howard based on those numbers. c'mon!
"just get me to the plate boys"---sabermetric doesnt measure that kind of stat.
-juggler
The end years of the deal may not be great for this franchise, but having him locked up gives this team another 3-4 years window in the NL - can't argue with that. I'll take the risk of 2 extra years at $25 million for the opportunity to win it all for another 3 or 4 years.
-pjhawks
then the infamous joey votto comparison started. that is hilarious to read now. jammin and pjhawks should be banned from talking baseball after that debacle
This one might be my favorite. Defending howard and happ in the same post!!!! All that's missing is zach duke or delmon young support. Classic
This is insane the bottom line in sports is wins and loses correct. And the players with the best numbers get paid the most correct. I could give a shit about saberwhatever or all these other insane new things. Gotta love j happ killn it last year but because of some new thing sayn his balls get hit hard or right to people last that he should have a bad year this year. INSANE. If my eyes tell me the players good that's all I need to know. Howard is by far better then any other 1st basemen besides pujulos and that's just a FACT. And if you disagree your just wrong.
-jammin
This is all crazy talk. The Howard contract is horrendous. The only thing that got me giddy about it is the commitment from the organization to its proven players. But I'm taking Tex, Poop Holes, Fielder, A Gone, Miggy, and possibly Morneau over Howard any day. Howard is a product of this lineup for the most part. Put Howard on Cincy, Pitt, KC, or any other garbage team and no pitcher pitches to him, he doesn't end up with more than 35 homers, and continues to strikeout or hit a home run with even less people on base due to there no being three all stars hitting in front of you. Love Howard, but this is all crazy talk.
-JP
This is just from approx pages 140-150. Funny as hell.
The only thing that would make this better - and I assume that's why people aren't talking over there - would be conversation regarding Cooper in the Birds thread.
I can only imagine where the subject would go. I mean, I'm trying to poke the bear, but no takers.
At any rate, I'm looking forward to a Birds season for the first time since 2006.
The only thing that would make this better - and I assume that's why people aren't talking over there - would be conversation regarding Cooper in the Birds thread.
I can only imagine where the subject would go. I mean, I'm trying to poke the bear, but no takers.
At any rate, I'm looking forward to a Birds season for the first time since 2006.
I've been doing my best to avoid that topic.
All of these dumb mlb steroid and useless nfl camp stories got me thinking...is august the worst month of the year? it's long, hot, boring, sports stink if your mlb team isn't good, you get beaten down with shitty nfl training camp stories, no holidays, weather sucks ass, etc.
August beats out March and February for worst month of year in my book.
The only thing that would make this better - and I assume that's why people aren't talking over there - would be conversation regarding Cooper in the Birds thread.
I can only imagine where the subject would go. I mean, I'm trying to poke the bear, but no takers.
At any rate, I'm looking forward to a Birds season for the first time since 2006.
I've been doing my best to avoid that topic.
All of these dumb mlb steroid and useless nfl camp stories got me thinking...is august the worst month of the year? it's long, hot, boring, sports stink if your mlb team isn't good, you get beaten down with shitty nfl training camp stories, no holidays, weather sucks ass, etc.
August beats out March and February for worst month of year in my book.
In order of worst to best months - February, January, December, August, March, November, April, July, October, June, May, September.
I can't stand the cold dreck of winter, sans the holidays. I'll take the stank of summer over it any day. But, March edges August because it's got the advent of spring, going down to Clearwater, etc - everything's on the cusp of being awesome. Whereas August is the sign of summer closing.
The only thing that would make this better - and I assume that's why people aren't talking over there - would be conversation regarding Cooper in the Birds thread.
I can only imagine where the subject would go. I mean, I'm trying to poke the bear, but no takers.
At any rate, I'm looking forward to a Birds season for the first time since 2006.
I've been doing my best to avoid that topic.
All of these dumb mlb steroid and useless nfl camp stories got me thinking...is august the worst month of the year? it's long, hot, boring, sports stink if your mlb team isn't good, you get beaten down with shitty nfl training camp stories, no holidays, weather sucks ass, etc.
August beats out March and February for worst month of year in my book.
In order of worst to best months - February, January, December, August, March, November, April, July, October, June, May, September.
I can't stand the cold dreck of winter, sans the holidays. I'll take the stank of summer over it any day. But, March edges August because it's got the advent of spring, going down to Clearwater, etc - everything's on the cusp of being awesome. Whereas August is the sign of summer closing.
You put february first because it's black history month. you riley cooper SOB.
February isn't the worst. Super Bowl...only 4 weeks...presidents day. March and August are both so long and boring.
worst to best (I despise the heat and humidity of the summer)
august, march, february, june, july, december, january, november, may, september, april, october
The only thing that would make this better - and I assume that's why people aren't talking over there - would be conversation regarding Cooper in the Birds thread.
I can only imagine where the subject would go. I mean, I'm trying to poke the bear, but no takers.
At any rate, I'm looking forward to a Birds season for the first time since 2006.
cooper's lucky maclin is out for the year but desean jackson made that gay slur a couple years ago and nothing happened to him though. i don't see much of a difference. that said, the eagles could not have handled this worse. they should have anticipated the pr nightmare and given him some kind of suspension to go along with the fine.
but yeah i'm as excited for this birds season than i've been in a quite a while, especially since this phils team now has the same sort of stench around it as the last few seasons of the andy reid era.
also, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking tom mccarthy. i hate how you can't avoid this dope... even on the fox national games.
harry and wheels made losing seasons bearable. this guy just amplifies the suckiness. and you don't even get a break for the middle innings.
"take it way murph!?" douche.
I don't know one person who likes him or wheels. The phils are so disconnected to their fans...their announcers are really a huge middle finger to us. I'm done giving money to those ass holes until they make significant organizational changes...gonna get sixers or flyers season tix instead.
Saw Low Cut Connie at the Underground Arts last night. They put on a great show...cool band. Awesome little place to see a show. Ended up doing a bunch of jameson shots with one of the band members. Hurting today. The Trestle Inn is also a decent spot.
Have attended a concert each of last three weekends. Summer tour continues next week with the Black Crowes.
also, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking tom mccarthy. i hate how you can't avoid this dope... even on the fox national games.
harry and wheels made losing seasons bearable. this guy just amplifies the suckiness. and you don't even get a break for the middle innings.
"take it way murph!?" douche.
I don't know one person who likes him or wheels. The phils are so disconnected to their fans...their announcers are really a huge middle finger to us. I'm done giving money to those ass holes until they make significant organizational changes...gonna get sixers or flyers season tix instead.
I dunno, I like Larry Anderson.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
also, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking tom mccarthy. i hate how you can't avoid this dope... even on the fox national games.
harry and wheels made losing seasons bearable. this guy just amplifies the suckiness. and you don't even get a break for the middle innings.
"take it way murph!?" douche.
I don't know one person who likes him or wheels. The phils are so disconnected to their fans...their announcers are really a huge middle finger to us. I'm done giving money to those ass holes until they make significant organizational changes...gonna get sixers or flyers season tix instead.
I dunno, I like Larry Anderson.
I meant mccarthy and wheels. LA and Franzke are great. I like jim jackson too.
can we just forget that this season even happened? :fp:
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
You mean the movie? It was and still is a racist town.
Yeah, and no doubt. It was just the one city they really highlighted outside of spring training.
Philly is as racist as any other NE city. I would argue it's not even close to how bad it is in a town like Pittsburgh or Boston - ie where the black population is far less and they have the balls to be much more overt about it.
On an unrelated note - didn't know about this 50/50 raffle until going to the game last night. All I gotta say is I'm hooked, and what in the hell took them so long??? Genius idea.
the best part of last night was seeing all the '93 squad down there. god i loved that team. but why is there like no other footage of them other than whats on the Whatever It Takes Dude and the 10 year anniversary dvd they gave out at the vet? i feel like whenever the phils show highlites or even on comcast, it's always the same old stuff that Video Dan Stephenson shot. last night the "video tribute" before the game was literally 5 minutes from the 10 year anniversary dvd that most of us have seen before. anyone else find that a bit peculiar?
and someone mentioned it before, but i did not expect dutch to look as good as he did...although he hasn't started chemo yet.
kinda looked like both of navarro's legs were busted up on that play.
if this is only 2 years in the mid to high 20's with the 3rd an option based on amount of time on the field or something, i think i'm cool with that...
Saw the Valencia soccer team in the airport today. Not sure what the fuck they were doing in the commercial terminal but whatever, kind of cool. No one had a clue who they were except for me.
Borgata for the killers tomorrow. Pretty pumped. Never been to a show there and I hear its sweet. Plus it's free
Geez just saw the standing, The Mets passed us for 3rd :fp:
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Saw the Valencia soccer team in the airport today. Not sure what the fuck they were doing in the commercial terminal but whatever, kind of cool. No one had a clue who they were except for me.
Borgata for the killers tomorrow. Pretty pumped. Never been to a show there and I hear its sweet. Plus it's free
I still don't know who they are
I heard same thing about shows at the borgata...I haven't been to that venue either. Was gonna go see Gary Clark Jr there in October, but I will be in NYC for the PJ shows. I have a concert doubleheader on sunday. Low Cut Connnie at World Cafe Live Wilmington at 4 (they are coming to philly for a free show at Liquid Velvet Underground Record Store in Quenn Village at 6), then the Black Crowes at the Mann. Pumped to see the Crowes...they've been on my 'to see' list for a long time.
the best part of last night was seeing all the '93 squad down there. god i loved that team. but why is there like no other footage of them other than whats on the Whatever It Takes Dude and the 10 year anniversary dvd they gave out at the vet? i feel like whenever the phils show highlites or even on comcast, it's always the same old stuff that Video Dan Stephenson shot. last night the "video tribute" before the game was literally 5 minutes from the 10 year anniversary dvd that most of us have seen before. anyone else find that a bit peculiar?
and someone mentioned it before, but i did not expect dutch to look as good as he did...although he hasn't started chemo yet.
They couldn't edit out all the needles from the other footage.
Alright, alright, alright!
Tom O. "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Comments
THIS IS A GREAT DAY GENTLEMEN!
-Juggler
Really? You think its a good idea to lock up a slugging first baseman a year before he is to become a free agent for what is going to be the highest contract in the league in terms of AAV? Especially in this market with the contract taking him to 37. Don't get me wrong he is an outstanding player, but this contract is absurd.
-Cliff
don't forget ..he came up big in the series
-Neily (referring to howards' epic 2009 WS performance, which earned him WS MVP. For the yanks)
lot of money---yes. but i am just thrilled we were able to keep him here. he's a better all around player today than he was 3 years ago. his defense is much, much improved. he's lost a lot of weight and is in better all around shape and is right in the prime of his career. i love it.
-Juggler (pom poms were in full effect back in 2010)
Great deal,love that he should retire a philly.
-jammin
I hear you, he is a great player, that is just too much for too long in my opinion. There is no need to extend him a year and a half early for that money or time, its just not good business.
-cliff
Too much for too long arwe u serious? 5yrs at 25 million is a great deal for a 30yr. The norm anymore is these insane 10yr contracts gettn him locked up until 2016 is perfect.if he hit the market he probably could have gotten a 5-7yr deal for 25-30 mill a season.great deal ruben.
-jammin (the guy who claims he always hated this contract
I absoultey hate this contract. type of deal that sends teams into rebuilding mode. Hate it, hate it, hate it
-Fixer
I could care less about stars playing here. I want the phils to win. this deal restricts them from winning once it kicks in.
majored in econ...you don't make deals that result in diminishing returns, which this contract surely will. dumb, dumb, dumb.
everyone loves amaro because he's winning with what gillick built. his deals are questionable at best.
-Fixer
my howard contract analysis...
he's now 2nd highest paid player in baseball (per year).
he's 3rd best player on his team
in a nutshell...too many years, deal offered two years too early, too much money
not a good move
-Fixer
sabermetrics are for geeks.
-juggler
so rbi's are meaningless huh? the main run producing stat this sport has used for the past 130 some years doesn't count for anything? riigggggght. comments like that is proof positive why sabermetrics is a bit of a croc. that rob neyer guy had a list of 20 or more players who are better than ryan howard based on those numbers. c'mon!
"just get me to the plate boys"---sabermetric doesnt measure that kind of stat.
-juggler
The end years of the deal may not be great for this franchise, but having him locked up gives this team another 3-4 years window in the NL - can't argue with that. I'll take the risk of 2 extra years at $25 million for the opportunity to win it all for another 3 or 4 years.
-pjhawks
then the infamous joey votto comparison started. that is hilarious to read now. jammin and pjhawks should be banned from talking baseball after that debacle
This one might be my favorite. Defending howard and happ in the same post!!!! All that's missing is zach duke or delmon young support. Classic
This is insane the bottom line in sports is wins and loses correct. And the players with the best numbers get paid the most correct. I could give a shit about saberwhatever or all these other insane new things. Gotta love j happ killn it last year but because of some new thing sayn his balls get hit hard or right to people last that he should have a bad year this year. INSANE. If my eyes tell me the players good that's all I need to know. Howard is by far better then any other 1st basemen besides pujulos and that's just a FACT. And if you disagree your just wrong.
-jammin
This is all crazy talk. The Howard contract is horrendous. The only thing that got me giddy about it is the commitment from the organization to its proven players. But I'm taking Tex, Poop Holes, Fielder, A Gone, Miggy, and possibly Morneau over Howard any day. Howard is a product of this lineup for the most part. Put Howard on Cincy, Pitt, KC, or any other garbage team and no pitcher pitches to him, he doesn't end up with more than 35 homers, and continues to strikeout or hit a home run with even less people on base due to there no being three all stars hitting in front of you. Love Howard, but this is all crazy talk.
-JP
This is just from approx pages 140-150. Funny as hell.
I can only imagine where the subject would go. I mean, I'm trying to poke the bear, but no takers.
At any rate, I'm looking forward to a Birds season for the first time since 2006.
I've been doing my best to avoid that topic.
All of these dumb mlb steroid and useless nfl camp stories got me thinking...is august the worst month of the year? it's long, hot, boring, sports stink if your mlb team isn't good, you get beaten down with shitty nfl training camp stories, no holidays, weather sucks ass, etc.
August beats out March and February for worst month of year in my book.
In order of worst to best months - February, January, December, August, March, November, April, July, October, June, May, September.
I can't stand the cold dreck of winter, sans the holidays. I'll take the stank of summer over it any day. But, March edges August because it's got the advent of spring, going down to Clearwater, etc - everything's on the cusp of being awesome. Whereas August is the sign of summer closing.
You put february first because it's black history month. you riley cooper SOB.
February isn't the worst. Super Bowl...only 4 weeks...presidents day. March and August are both so long and boring.
worst to best (I despise the heat and humidity of the summer)
august, march, february, june, july, december, january, november, may, september, april, october
Yeah he did. Cant believe he didn't really have any impediments.
cooper's lucky maclin is out for the year but desean jackson made that gay slur a couple years ago and nothing happened to him though. i don't see much of a difference. that said, the eagles could not have handled this worse. they should have anticipated the pr nightmare and given him some kind of suspension to go along with the fine.
but yeah i'm as excited for this birds season than i've been in a quite a while, especially since this phils team now has the same sort of stench around it as the last few seasons of the andy reid era.
at least i'll get '93 pennant tonight. :thumbup:
harry and wheels made losing seasons bearable. this guy just amplifies the suckiness. and you don't even get a break for the middle innings.
"take it way murph!?" douche.
I don't know one person who likes him or wheels. The phils are so disconnected to their fans...their announcers are really a huge middle finger to us. I'm done giving money to those ass holes until they make significant organizational changes...gonna get sixers or flyers season tix instead.
Saw Low Cut Connie at the Underground Arts last night. They put on a great show...cool band. Awesome little place to see a show. Ended up doing a bunch of jameson shots with one of the band members. Hurting today. The Trestle Inn is also a decent spot.
Have attended a concert each of last three weekends. Summer tour continues next week with the Black Crowes.
I dunno, I like Larry Anderson.
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
I meant mccarthy and wheels. LA and Franzke are great. I like jim jackson too.
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
You mean the movie? It was and still is a racist town.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Yeah, and no doubt. It was just the one city they really highlighted outside of spring training.
I'm sure it was highlighted for a reason. I've always heard stories that it was awful for the black ballplayers here. Dick Allen got it bad.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Philly is as racist as any other NE city. I would argue it's not even close to how bad it is in a town like Pittsburgh or Boston - ie where the black population is far less and they have the balls to be much more overt about it.
On an unrelated note - didn't know about this 50/50 raffle until going to the game last night. All I gotta say is I'm hooked, and what in the hell took them so long??? Genius idea.
and someone mentioned it before, but i did not expect dutch to look as good as he did...although he hasn't started chemo yet.
hamels pitching well again tonight...of course amaro's lineup not helping him at all.
if this is only 2 years in the mid to high 20's with the 3rd an option based on amount of time on the field or something, i think i'm cool with that...
Borgata for the killers tomorrow. Pretty pumped. Never been to a show there and I hear its sweet. Plus it's free
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
I still don't know who they are
I heard same thing about shows at the borgata...I haven't been to that venue either. Was gonna go see Gary Clark Jr there in October, but I will be in NYC for the PJ shows. I have a concert doubleheader on sunday. Low Cut Connnie at World Cafe Live Wilmington at 4 (they are coming to philly for a free show at Liquid Velvet Underground Record Store in Quenn Village at 6), then the Black Crowes at the Mann. Pumped to see the Crowes...they've been on my 'to see' list for a long time.
They couldn't edit out all the needles from the other footage.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer