THE LINE & "THE LIST"

dimitrispearljam wrote:

pdalowsky wrote:

There were some awful lists in Europe 2012....

Some ran the thing great - however by the time I hit Berlin it had descended into chaos. Those running the list night 2 were truely awful.

I'd echo the sentiment of many / just be cool. Be nice to your neighbor and stay fair. Don't let the odd people abusing the situation ruin your day. It's not worth it.

at berlin..haha..i think was Karen said to me..Mr Dimitris,you need to move on and get into the venue..we need to open the the General Admission Entry and close 10c gate!!i was chating with an Argentinian girl!!! opps..

pdalowsky wrote:

No need for a list. Just write a number on a hand and look out for those around you.

It's not perfect but it's better than having a self appointed gob a lot striking names on - shuffling numbers and ejecting people .....

Let the people police it

And to those wondering what the fuss is about - seeing shows from the rail is a remarkable experience - even a few rows back makes the difference. The rail rocks so I get why many feel this is an important issue

october22 wrote:

Whatever. I'll be in Chicago with my bro and two friends. We got GA and that's good enough for us. We are on a mission and I'd rather get beaten up hitting on people's wives and girlfriends all day than spend my time in that line.

Jamminonthe1 wrote:

Mamasan Bren wrote:

It seems like a ton of fans who are doing Wrigley are already going crazy with anticipation and excitement, and I'm certainly one of them. I know a lot of fans plan to wait in line early in hopes of securing a good spot in the outfield grass GA section, if not even a coveted spot on the rail. It's no secret that this show will have fans coming out in the early a.m. hours to grab a great spot in line. What I am wondering is, what is everyone's opinion on the using of "The list"? I just have a feeling that tempers are going to flare with this "The list" thing. Let's face it, it's a lot of uncomfortable hard work to just sit there all day on a cement sidewalk in the hot sun. And if you couple that with the usual soaring hot sweaty humidity in Chicago in mid-July, things could get ugly. I understand the basic premise of "The list". My fear is that it becomes a constitution for those to abuse its intention. I've already read comments on Facebook of those praising a self-appointed gatekeeper/list-holder for implementing it so that they can go attend the pre-parties at Sluggers, and elsewhere. I get that it's a sticky situation. On the one hand, we're human, and we need to use the bathroom after so many hours. So, you leave to do that and you come right back, and that's all fine and good. However, with no real policing of that, people are prone to abuse it. I just feel for Joe and Jenny Pearl Jam that really truly put in their wait time all day on the sidewalk. I admire their devotion and applaud it. But if you are one of them who gets there early and are put in as #23 on the list, how is it that by the time the gates are open, they really end up being the 151st person allowed in? Cronyism and friends of fans and cliques always seem to take over at these things. We've all seen it. People who come and touch the wall and say that they are on the spot and place their name on the list, only to spend their day off doing lunch and whatever else they please, don't deserve to have their spot saved. If only there were a rule that after 2 pm if you leave the line, you go to the end of the line or something like that. Now, I realize that won't fly, but something like that would only be fair. Leave your spot, lose your spot. You know damn well there are going to be a ton of people trying to join their spots in the line around 3-5 p.m. based on "The list". You'll have people there from 6 a.m. (or even earlier) to 5:30 p.m. who put in close to a full 11 hours of actual waiting. Then you'll have those that plop their name down onto "The list" who if you actually clocked their time, wait only a couple of hours. I think if you are morally sound with your scruples, you would agree that waiting out, should (now follow me here, I know this is crazy) actually mean waiting out in line. "The list" seems to be an excuse for those to have windows of times where they can leave and do whatever they want to do, seeing friends at pre-parties, lounging around with a long lunch, etc. The front of these lines always just balloon as the day goes on. You know they do. People say they're "with" friends/others and before you know it, those that actually put in the time are continually pushed backward. Atop this, people seem to feel entitled to do this due to their PJ resumes of being true fans and banking tons of shows under their belts. Who gives anyone the right to become "The list" keeper? It's a city, a stadium, and a rock n roll show. And you're at some point going to read off names from "The list" and shuffle in people who've been aloof all day, all because they came and touched the wall in the early a.m. or whenever? Touching the wall and then running off, does not mean you should deserve a saved spot. I realize it's a tough situation. I am just wondering what everyone thinks? This is a much different beast than Missoula. With Missoula, it was quite a walk to get back to the Press Box pre-party. With Wrigley, there are bars and restaurants all around the park. I really wish there was a safe secure solution to this. If you leave, you should be back within five minutes to be fair I think. Any longer than that and it's just abusing it for those that are putting in the devoted time. People can get awfully worked up in the sweaty heat, and I can understand their getting upset as this "The list" practice screws them over from their devoted attempt at an up-close spot for a show that means a lot to their lives. I'd hate to see this upcoming situation get ugly, but I already fear that it has the makings of a big problem. (And I hope viewpoints in this thread stay respectful too.)

There is no chance in hell I'm reading this. Anyone want to summarize?

Lost In Ohio wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

some people sucks,we all agree to that..i dont care what people want to do to wrigley..

one more reason to love the shows at Netherlands is that the venue and the security take care of the situations..no list needed,no one cheating..

*hears 500-lb guy crack knuckles and neck*

:shock: :shock: :shock:

OH....SNAP!


All we need is Eddie...."I WOULD TAKE YOU THERE....THERE'S MUCH MORE...THAN THIS!!!!"