Pearl Jam to play Oracle OpenWorld

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  • faithfullale
    faithfullale Posts: 152
    I hope nobody now tells me there is no Santa Claus!! Luke Skywalker is spending time with the Dark Side!! It does seem to me there is some underlying hypocrisy with respect to their actions and words over the past 20 years. Everyone makes decisions that people disagree with and personally I don't like the idea of PJ playing the conference but my life will go on. I just want some good old fashion, ass kicking music that gets my blood pumping and makes my hair stand up!!!
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    I understand your point but:

    1) The world has changed. Pearl Jam is a band but is also a business, employing hundreds, if not thousands of people, over the years. Either you evolve with the changing times or you die on the vine.

    2) The band continues to donate to dozens of charities across the world. Even while making a profit, the band gives back to the community and to the world. The same can't be said for many other high profile bands and music acts.

    3) Personally, I am thankful they are still an active band. If they have to do a corporate event or major festal every now and then to give them the opportunity to record the album they want to (and not a major record label), I'm cool with that.

    4) The world isn't black and white and certainly isn't perfect. If you think the band is perfect in every way, you need to crawl from underneath the rock you are under.

    Peace
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I would do a corporate gig... if I was talented... and people like what I did.
    It'd be a pretty easy gig... bring your own crew, minus the lighting and sound... bill them for the hotels... eat the free food... drink the free booze... play the hits... collect a big paycheck... steal the towels from the hotel.
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  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    Cosmo wrote:
    I would do a corporate gig... if I was talented... and people like what I did.
    It'd be a pretty easy gig... bring your own crew, minus the lighting and sound... bill them for the hotels... eat the free food... drink the free booze... play the hits... collect a big paycheck... steal the towels from the hotel.

    Sellout ;)
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  • GS4566
    GS4566 Posts: 69
    vedpunk wrote:
    I understand your point but:

    1) The world has changed. Pearl Jam is a band but is also a business, employing hundreds, if not thousands of people, over the years. Either you evolve with the changing times or you die on the vine.

    2) The band continues to donate to dozens of charities across the world. Even while making a profit, the band gives back to the community and to the world. The same can't be said for many other high profile bands and music acts.

    3) Personally, I am thankful they are still an active band. If they have to do a corporate event or major festal every now and then to give them the opportunity to record the album they want to (and not a major record label), I'm cool with that.

    4) The world isn't black and white and certainly isn't perfect. If you think the band is perfect in every way, you need to crawl from underneath the rock you are under.

    Peace

    I'm thankful they still are a band also. I'm just disappointed. Especially, since they really have not had a proper US tour and and album in what seems like ages. I might (might) feel different if this was one of 45 stops on a major tour. Peace and Love.

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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    GS4566 wrote:
    vedpunk wrote:
    I understand your point but:

    1) The world has changed. Pearl Jam is a band but is also a business, employing hundreds, if not thousands of people, over the years. Either you evolve with the changing times or you die on the vine.

    2) The band continues to donate to dozens of charities across the world. Even while making a profit, the band gives back to the community and to the world. The same can't be said for many other high profile bands and music acts.

    3) Personally, I am thankful they are still an active band. If they have to do a corporate event or major festal every now and then to give them the opportunity to record the album they want to (and not a major record label), I'm cool with that.

    4) The world isn't black and white and certainly isn't perfect. If you think the band is perfect in every way, you need to crawl from underneath the rock you are under.

    Peace

    I'm thankful they still are a band also. I'm just disappointed. Especially, since they really have not had a proper US tour and and album in what seems like ages. I might (might) feel different if this was one of 45 stops on a major tour. Peace and Love.

    Peace and love, peace and love.

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  • boyo79
    boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    vedpunk wrote:
    I understand your point but:

    1) The world has changed. Pearl Jam is a band but is also a business, employing hundreds, if not thousands of people, over the years. Either you evolve with the changing times or you die on the vine.

    2) The band continues to donate to dozens of charities across the world. Even while making a profit, the band gives back to the community and to the world. The same can't be said for many other high profile bands and music acts.

    3) Personally, I am thankful they are still an active band. If they have to do a corporate event or major festal every now and then to give them the opportunity to record the album they want to (and not a major record label), I'm cool with that.

    4) The world isn't black and white and certainly isn't perfect. If you think the band is perfect in every way, you need to crawl from underneath the rock you are under.

    Peace


    Yep this makes sense.

    As for everyone complaining about it being for a corporation - Do you buy coca-cola? Do you use an ipad, iphone or Mac? Got a PS3? What car is it you drive? A big corporation one? Get off your soapboxes you bunch of hyprocrites lol :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    boyo79 wrote:
    vedpunk wrote:
    I understand your point but:

    1) The world has changed. Pearl Jam is a band but is also a business, employing hundreds, if not thousands of people, over the years. Either you evolve with the changing times or you die on the vine.

    2) The band continues to donate to dozens of charities across the world. Even while making a profit, the band gives back to the community and to the world. The same can't be said for many other high profile bands and music acts.

    3) Personally, I am thankful they are still an active band. If they have to do a corporate event or major festal every now and then to give them the opportunity to record the album they want to (and not a major record label), I'm cool with that.

    4) The world isn't black and white and certainly isn't perfect. If you think the band is perfect in every way, you need to crawl from underneath the rock you are under.

    Peace


    Yep this makes sense.

    As for everyone complaining about it being for a corporation - Do you buy coca-cola? Do you use an ipad, iphone or Mac? Got a PS3? What car is it you drive? A big corporation one? Get off your soapboxes you bunch of hyprocrites lol :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Everyone complaining didn't bitch about corporations for most of their career.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    boyo79 wrote:
    As for everyone complaining about it being for a corporation - Do you buy coca-cola? Do you use an ipad, iphone or Mac? Got a PS3? What car is it you drive? A big corporation one? Get off your soapboxes you bunch of hyprocrites lol :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    sure, as consumers some of us choose to buy products from some corporations, obviously... the difference here is pearl jam is the product being bought by the corporation...

    the mantra of "sponsored by no one" used to be so refreshing in this corporate dominated shithole of a society... but now even the best band in the world is sucking the corporate cock for easy paydays...

    but what did we expect in a world that worships swooshes, golden arches, and designer sunglasses?

    feel free to hate me for missing the good ol' days... but i do
  • EquallyWorthless
    EquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    edited August 2012
    my2hands wrote:
    the mantra of "sponsored by no one" used to be so refreshing in this corporate dominated shithole of a society... but now even the best band in the world is sucking the corporate cock for easy paydays...

    but what did we expect in a world that worships swooshes, golden arches, and designer sunglasses?

    feel free to hate me for missing the good ol' days... but i do

    lol what. The good old days? "Sponsered by No One.." was never a mantra of the band. It was a shot at Ticketmaster, and a slogan for a tour, as in "we can do a tour without being sponsored by you." I seem to remember that tour going horribly and being one of the biggest failures in the bands history.. So I am not sure if you are referring to those good old days? Revisionist history is awesome when youre using it to try and prove YOUR point. Not A point.
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    EquallyWorthless wrote:
    Revisionist history is awesome when youre using it to try and prove YOUR point. Not a point.

    true
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  • boyo79
    boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    PJ vs Ticketmaster will always come back to haunt the band. People need to let go what happened 16/17 years ago. Times and people change. I'm pretty certain people here do things differently than they did back in 1995.

    The reaction to this is way over the top. Seems some people prefer to moan about the band rather than enjoy them nowadays
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    2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
    2007: London
    2009: Manchester
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    2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
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    2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II

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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    boyo79 wrote:
    PJ vs Ticketmaster will always come back to haunt the band. People need to let go what happened 16/17 years ago. Times and people change. I'm pretty certain people here do things differently than they did back in 1995.

    The reaction to this is way over the top. Seems some people prefer to moan about the band rather than enjoy them nowadays
    some people prefer to moan while enjoying the band...
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  • boyo79
    boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    Black Diamond wrote:
    boyo79 wrote:
    PJ vs Ticketmaster will always come back to haunt the band. People need to let go what happened 16/17 years ago. Times and people change. I'm pretty certain people here do things differently than they did back in 1995.

    The reaction to this is way over the top. Seems some people prefer to moan about the band rather than enjoy them nowadays
    some people prefer to moan while enjoying the band...

    Best of both worlds :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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    2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
    2007: London
    2009: Manchester
    2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
    2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    boyo79 wrote:
    Yep this makes sense.

    As for everyone complaining about it being for a corporation - Do you buy coca-cola? Do you use an ipad, iphone or Mac? Got a PS3? What car is it you drive? A big corporation one? Get off your soapboxes you bunch of hyprocrites lol :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    ...
    Most of the big databases are running Oracle RDBMS back ends. Chances are, if you've ever purchanced any thing online (including paying your bills online), you've used an Oracle product.
    ...
    Flip side. Those government databases that are gathering and storing data on you... more than likely, Oracle.
    ...
    So, pros and cons... just like just about everything in life in the 21st Century. Not much is black and white.
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    I just hope Green Disease is on the playlist...
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    Cosmo wrote:
    So, pros and cons... just like just about everything in life in the 21st Century. Not much is black and white.

    The only thing "blacker" than black is the black diamond 8-)
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  • childofthemoon
    childofthemoon Detroit Posts: 60
    not saying I like it but lots of people play these corporate/private gigs now. bob dylan's been doing them for years. elton john played oracle open world a few years ago, dave matthews band has done them as well. the rolling stones have done them in the past for private individuals if the price was right.
  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    arq wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    So, pros and cons... just like just about everything in life in the 21st Century. Not much is black and white.

    The only thing "blacker" than black is the black diamond 8-)
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  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    For the record, I'm just glad this event isn't being held in the south...that would add insult to injury.

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