Pearl Jam to play Oracle OpenWorld

boyo79

WoodenHammer wrote:

as an oracle employee, i must say this backlash seems naive and misguided. i am not a master of war, i am not an evil corporate barbarian... i am just like you guys. i go to bonnaroo to see my favorite band, i bend over backwards to get to alpine to see pj20. i am a huge fan, and lots of my peers are too. this event will be rocking.

and it's a technology conference with a music festival around it. that's not so different from an arts and music festival, is it? or a political fundraiser a la missoula. what's the difference?

every year we have the biggest technology conference in the world in san francisco. we raise a ton of money for the city of SF, the city relies on this event. we have tried to move it, but the economics of it are so important to the city, that we stay there. and every year there is a concert night. i have seen the chili peppers, tom petty, prince, billy joel, beck, sting... the list goes on and on. and lots of companies do this. shit, bob dylan played for a google conference.

the price for the entire conference is $2400. it's all week long and is just like any other trade conference, other than it is the biggest tech conference in the world. the tickets to the concert are free for anyone that attends the conference - ~40,000 people per year attend. and it's not all stuffed suits. it's a lot of normal people like me and you. its customers, its partners, its employees of oracle. this is not some millionaires only event. would it be different if they played for a teacher's union?

im sorry, i just really don't understand all this backlash. i say good for them. it's a big audience, it'll be a good party, and i can't wait to rock out with my colleagues, friends, and PJ.

Enjoy! Fuck the naysayers on this, I really don't get the backlash but its too be expected around these parts nowadays. Trust me if PJ had done their usual US tours this year and then done this Oracle gig no-one would complain.

I honestly don't know what the fuss is about, they've done corporate performances before.

ComeToTX

boyo79 wrote:

WoodenHammer wrote:

as an oracle employee, i must say this backlash seems naive and misguided. i am not a master of war, i am not an evil corporate barbarian... i am just like you guys. i go to bonnaroo to see my favorite band, i bend over backwards to get to alpine to see pj20. i am a huge fan, and lots of my peers are too. this event will be rocking.

and it's a technology conference with a music festival around it. that's not so different from an arts and music festival, is it? or a political fundraiser a la missoula. what's the difference?

every year we have the biggest technology conference in the world in san francisco. we raise a ton of money for the city of SF, the city relies on this event. we have tried to move it, but the economics of it are so important to the city, that we stay there. and every year there is a concert night. i have seen the chili peppers, tom petty, prince, billy joel, beck, sting... the list goes on and on. and lots of companies do this. shit, bob dylan played for a google conference.

the price for the entire conference is $2400. it's all week long and is just like any other trade conference, other than it is the biggest tech conference in the world. the tickets to the concert are free for anyone that attends the conference - ~40,000 people per year attend. and it's not all stuffed suits. it's a lot of normal people like me and you. its customers, its partners, its employees of oracle. this is not some millionaires only event. would it be different if they played for a teacher's union?

im sorry, i just really don't understand all this backlash. i say good for them. it's a big audience, it'll be a good party, and i can't wait to rock out with my colleagues, friends, and PJ.

Enjoy! Fuck the naysayers on this, I really don't get the backlash but its too be expected around these parts nowadays. Trust me if PJ had done their usual US tours this year and then done this Oracle gig no-one would complain.

I honestly don't know what the fuss is about, they've done corporate performances before.

You answered your own question. They haven't toured in years but they'll do this. Play a few for the fans then take the payday. I'm down here in Texas begging them to come take my money and play some shows.

amethgr8

expanding horizons and pushing yourself to a different level isn't always what we expect it to be (obviously) but it still requires a certain amount of growth and offers perspective not otherwise gained.

nobody looses when we share.

amy

boyo79

ComeToTX wrote:

boyo79 wrote:

WoodenHammer wrote:

as an oracle employee, i must say this backlash seems naive and misguided. i am not a master of war, i am not an evil corporate barbarian... i am just like you guys. i go to bonnaroo to see my favorite band, i bend over backwards to get to alpine to see pj20. i am a huge fan, and lots of my peers are too. this event will be rocking.

and it's a technology conference with a music festival around it. that's not so different from an arts and music festival, is it? or a political fundraiser a la missoula. what's the difference?

every year we have the biggest technology conference in the world in san francisco. we raise a ton of money for the city of SF, the city relies on this event. we have tried to move it, but the economics of it are so important to the city, that we stay there. and every year there is a concert night. i have seen the chili peppers, tom petty, prince, billy joel, beck, sting... the list goes on and on. and lots of companies do this. shit, bob dylan played for a google conference.

the price for the entire conference is $2400. it's all week long and is just like any other trade conference, other than it is the biggest tech conference in the world. the tickets to the concert are free for anyone that attends the conference - ~40,000 people per year attend. and it's not all stuffed suits. it's a lot of normal people like me and you. its customers, its partners, its employees of oracle. this is not some millionaires only event. would it be different if they played for a teacher's union?

im sorry, i just really don't understand all this backlash. i say good for them. it's a big audience, it'll be a good party, and i can't wait to rock out with my colleagues, friends, and PJ.

Enjoy! Fuck the naysayers on this, I really don't get the backlash but its too be expected around these parts nowadays. Trust me if PJ had done their usual US tours this year and then done this Oracle gig no-one would complain.

I honestly don't know what the fuss is about, they've done corporate performances before.

You answered your own question. They haven't toured in years but they'll do this. Play a few for the fans then take the payday. I'm down here in Texas begging them to come take my money and play some shows.

I don't believe I asked a question. And for all any of us knows the money they get for this could be going to PJ chosen charity.

moses562

I will take any PJ merch off anyones hands who are finished with this band. Just pass it on...do not burn it or sell it...just give it to those who will keep on keeping on.

boyo79

moses562 wrote:

I will take any PJ merch off anyones hands who are finished with this band. Just pass it on...do not burn it or sell it...just give it to those who will keep on keeping on.

Good post!

Hugh Freaking Dillon

with the amount of money the band has, it's laughable to think they do anything for a paycheque.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

cincybearcat wrote:

All I wish was that I had the same chance at seeing them play a show in the US as politicians and corporations.

they've played nearly 1000 shows, haven't they? how many corporate gigs have they played?

dougfloyd

WoodenHammer wrote:

as an oracle employee, i must say this backlash seems naive and misguided. i am not a master of war, i am not an evil corporate barbarian... i am just like you guys. i go to bonnaroo to see my favorite band, i bend over backwards to get to alpine to see pj20. i am a huge fan, and lots of my peers are too. this event will be rocking.

and it's a technology conference with a music festival around it. that's not so different from an arts and music festival, is it? or a political fundraiser a la missoula. what's the difference?

every year we have the biggest technology conference in the world in san francisco. we raise a ton of money for the city of SF, the city relies on this event. we have tried to move it, but the economics of it are so important to the city, that we stay there. and every year there is a concert night. i have seen the chili peppers, tom petty, prince, billy joel, beck, sting... the list goes on and on. and lots of companies do this. shit, bob dylan played for a google conference.

the price for the entire conference is $2400. it's all week long and is just like any other trade conference, other than it is the biggest tech conference in the world. the tickets to the concert are free for anyone that attends the conference - ~40,000 people per year attend. and it's not all stuffed suits. it's a lot of normal people like me and you. its customers, its partners, its employees of oracle. this is not some millionaires only event. would it be different if they played for a teacher's union?

im sorry, i just really don't understand all this backlash. i say good for them. it's a big audience, it'll be a good party, and i can't wait to rock out with my colleagues, friends, and PJ.

Hope to see you there!

cincybearcat

moses562 wrote:

I will take any PJ merch off anyones hands who are finished with this band. Just pass it on...do not burn it or sell it...just give it to those who will keep on keeping on.

Dude, in keeping with the bands philosophies of today, they are going to sell that shit.

cincybearcat

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

All I wish was that I had the same chance at seeing them play a show in the US as politicians and corporations.

they've played nearly 1000 shows, haven't they? how many corporate gigs have they played?

Too many?

Anyhow, my main point was I don't really care, I just want a TOUR!!!!

moses562

boyo79 wrote:

moses562 wrote:

I will take any PJ merch off anyones hands who are finished with this band. Just pass it on...do not burn it or sell it...just give it to those who will keep on keeping on.

Good post!

Just thought to capitalize on a moment. How many people are really offended? Time will pass, this will pass and everyone who said they were done will still be there...rocking on.

PM me if you are giving up the goods...

Halstead

I don't know anything about this company but is every corporation in the world terrible?

If I take a look around my own house, there's plenty of things that have I have benefited from...made possible by some corporation or another.

Obviously there's a lot corporations that have shit on this world but there's been quite a few that have helped make it better too...and that's not always the most interesting news story either.

moses562

cincybearcat wrote:

moses562 wrote:

I will take any PJ merch off anyones hands who are finished with this band. Just pass it on...do not burn it or sell it...just give it to those who will keep on keeping on.

Dude, in keeping with the bands philosophies of today, they are going to sell that shit.

Dang..you are right...Ebay will be lit up with lots of merch!

teskeinc

Halstead wrote:

I don't know anything about this company but is every corporation in the world terrible?

If I take a look around my own house, there's plenty of things that have I have benefited from...made possible by some corporation or another.

Obviously there's a lot corporations that have shit on this world but there's been quite a few that have helped make it better too...and that's not always the most interesting news story either.

every corporation is terrible, especially those "underwear knomes"!

boyo79

moses562 wrote:

boyo79 wrote:

moses562 wrote:

I will take any PJ merch off anyones hands who are finished with this band. Just pass it on...do not burn it or sell it...just give it to those who will keep on keeping on.

Good post!

Just thought to capitalize on a moment. How many people are really offended? Time will pass, this will pass and everyone who said they were done will still be there...rocking on.

PM me if you are giving up the goods...

I ain't giving up shit! This gig doesn't bother me in the slightest!!

Halstead wrote:

I don't know anything about this company but is every corporation in the world terrible?

If I take a look around my own house, there's plenty of things that have I have benefited from...made possible by some corporation or another.

Obviously there's a lot corporations that have shit on this world but there's been quite a few that have helped make it better too...and that's not always the most interesting news story either.

A very good point. I guess people are logging onto the forum using a corporations product.... :roll: :roll:

stickfig13

eladder wrote:

As far as satans bed nobody knows the events (or i dont) that led to eds previous relationship failing. Not fair to assume anything. And id also bet theres a lot more to his wife than just looks. Id say vedders not the shallow type.

As far as this oracle thing i just think its lame based on how i view and have viewed the band. I view them as above the sell out trappings and thats obviously changing. People on here are like its only about the music so i dont care what they do but isnt it the music that rails against corporate greed? The lyrics to green disease, soon forget, corduroy. How many rants have we heard against corporations? And specifically, ed always talks about his fear and refusal to accept technology. Oracle?

Didnt most of us love this band because of the way they did things their way and went below the radar to avoid crap like these events? I can definitely say that i wouldnt be as big a fan if pj did do things like this in the 90s. Like not doing shit like this was part of their mystique and greatness in my opinion. I dont hate on anyone trying to make more money but as stated on here, why not just play a few shows for real fans? We obviously pay. Unlike some on here, im not going to begrudge them from making cash but there are other ways involving the real fan base and i dont blame some for asking the question bud fox asked to gekko. Whens enough enough? I know the music industry has changed but its just tough for me to swallow (obviously). Im always telling my friends that pj is different from the rest and that IS a huge reason why i think they are so great. I feel like almost all celebs and entertainers are unabashedly about cash and it makes their message hollow. I need to accept that i have to adjust my expectations. Sorry for the rant. I just love watching snl 94 "not for you" and their obvious disdain for the norm. I get it that its been almost 20 years since that but this just seems extreme. I still love em and always will but the illusion is fading.

Perfect

my2hands

you guys are right... business conferences are fucking badass!!! nothing says rock&roll like a good business conference discussing new software and such...

i heard the arkansas state fair has an opening for a headliner

vedpunk

Wow, this thread is ridiculous. I'm sure Pearl Jam really cares about 0.0001% of their fanbase spending hours on their forum complaining about how THEIR band makes money and where THEIR money should go. You guys need to get laid or find a hobby. Pearl Jam still rock and I plan on attending as many future shows as possible.

GS4566

vedpunk wrote:

Wow, this thread is ridiculous. I'm sure Pearl Jam really cares about 0.0001% of their fanbase spending hours on their forum complaining about how THEIR band makes money and where THEIR money should go. You guys need to get laid or find a hobby. Pearl Jam still rock and I plan on attending as many future shows as possible.

I get laid on a regular basis and this is my hobby/love/passion.

As far as spending hours on the forum....this is my 37th post since July 1998.

When my favorite band plays a show PAID FOR by a corporation and not the fans. It is a huge shift in their ideals.