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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited August 2012
    pandora wrote:
    redrock wrote:

    YES!! Firearms invented to KILL!!!!! Finally admitting it... and properly sourced too! ;)
    Did I ever say they weren't wtf...

    I said they are not owned for the purpose to kill ...
    well unless you are a criminal ... good lord :fp:
    they are owned to protect oneself...so basic.

    :lol::lol::lol:

    Yeah... they were invented by someone who had no intention to use them as killing machines :roll:
    Post edited by redrock on
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    my gun doesn't kill...it loves 8-)
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    comebackgirl wrote:
    norm wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Looks like i'll need to file for concealed carry after all. :P

    i'm just trying to not go off half-cocked :problem:
    Any one with a long gun please step the right :angel:

    poor guys without the long gun making them feel bad huh? ;)
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    redrock wrote:

    YES!! Firearms invented to KILL!!!!! Finally admitting it... and properly sourced too! ;)
    Did I ever say they weren't wtf...

    I said they are not owned for the purpose to kill ...
    well unless you are a criminal ... good lord :fp:
    they are owned to protect oneself...so basic.

    :lol::lol::lol:

    Yeah... they were invented by someone who had no intention to use them as killing machines :roll:
    The reason why those who do not have this intention needs them...

    are you diggin a hole here ;)
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    comebackgirl wrote:
    norm wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:

    Looks like i'll need to file for concealed carry after all. :P

    i'm just trying to not go off half-cocked :problem:
    Any one with a long gun please step the right :angel:

    Wait a minute... are you even of legal age for this? Show us some ID! Then again... you should be OK - who cares about checks! :D
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    pandora wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Did I ever say they weren't wtf...

    I said they are not owned for the purpose to kill ...
    well unless you are a criminal ... good lord :fp:
    they are owned to protect oneself...so basic.

    :lol::lol::lol:

    Yeah... they were invented by someone who had no intention to use them as killing machines :roll:
    The reason why those who do not have this intention needs them...

    are you diggin a hole here ;)

    Not digging anything pandora. Why have a gun if it the intention is not to use it? Use it for it's ultimate purpose - killing? Whatever the initial reason for this was. If there is no intent to use it for it's 'proper' function, there is no reason to have it. Guns were invented to kill. That is their purpose.
  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    redrock wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    Any one with a long gun please step the right :angel:

    Wait a minute... are you even of legal age for this? Show us some ID! Then again... you should be OK - who cares about checks! :D
    I'm old enough, but I don't meet the minimum height requirements :oops:

    Who cares? Guns for all! A girl can't be too prepared :shifty: ;)
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Zoso wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    I've never seen a gun lead to teenage pregnancy, unless you're using *gun* as a euphemism ;).

    :lol:
    Bowchicka-pow-pow! ;)

    I've never ever heard that used as a euphemism for 'that' before.. American maybe :D I still have a lot to learn it seems.
    *ahem*

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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    edited August 2012
    pandora wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    I'll agree with Zoso -- Compared to the rest of the world, it is my opinion that the USA is obsessed with guns. I know this is a generalization, but that just what I see...88 out of a 100 people own one? I'd say that's an obsession, and an unhealthy one at that.
    This thinking is very biased, they do not own them out of obsession but out of need,
    not everyone can move to a better neighborhood.
    Even in a better neighborhood like mine crime comes to me. Consider the fact that it takes
    police over 10 minutes to arrive with a house alarm call or
    a call that is made by the victim themselves. through 911 .
    Alot happens in 10 minutes.
    It is prudent to be prepared and seeing that most all criminals now carry a gun
    it is the most logical choice.

    Out of need? :lol: :fp: talk about biased.
    You do realize how astronomically high our gun ownership is compared to the rest of the world, right?
    Of the dozens of people I personally know (yes, thats biased too), only one needs his weapon, because it is required of him by his profession (cop).
    And now most/all criminals carry a gun? biased?
    And if gun advocates keep saying that there are millions of gun owners that will never need to use it, where exactly is that need?

    Thanks fot throwing that in too - -"not everyone can move to a better neighbordood"...I agonized through that neighborhood for nealry 7 years, and I never needed a gun.
    Post edited by JonnyPistachio on
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Zoso wrote:
    absolutely.. people were killing people all over the world in many wars and invasions, but gun murders aren't an issue in other countries apart from America. The 'right to bear arms' seems to be a holding pattern on progress in America and I believe the reason why there are so many more deaths here then any other country.

    I haven't got the right to bear arms in Australia before or after that ONE massacre that occured.. it sounds stupid.


    I know and I feel for the countries which have punished all citizens
    because of the actions of some.
    I would not want to live in a country that does that. ..
    dictates my right to protect my own life and that of my loved ones or my property.

    Actually Australia is currently having a bit of a problem with the youth I believe.
    Maybe they do not like the idea of such powerlessness.
    I was hoping to research more on the subject but have not gotten to it.

    It is definitely a different mindset and our problems here can dwarf other countries.
    The entire way our country was founded and when compared to yours and others and why ...
    so many different variables.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    "so i got a shitty lap dance that was only 2 songs instead of the 3 i thought i paid for, so i am going to go shoot up the strip bar now...."

    :fp:

    guns are a great idea!

    i guess the gun did not kill these three innocent people..

    :roll:

    Cops: Unhappy patron kills three at Alabama strip club

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08 ... -club?lite

    Three people were shot and killed and another injured by a dissatisfied patron of a strip club in Alabama late Thursday, police say.

    Houston County Sheriff Andy Hughes told NBC News the shooting happened at Teasers, a topless nightclub outside of Dothan, Ala.

    Police arrested the alleged shooter, Ryan Clark Petersen, 22, at 7:30 a.m. CT and charged him with three counts of capital murder and one count of attempted murder.

    Authorities received a call about a shooting around 11:30 p.m. Thursday. When deputies arrived on scene, they found four people who had been shot.

    Hughes said that a dispute erupted in the club after Petersen complained about a dancer's performance and began touching her. A club employee asked Petersen to leave and escorted him outside. Petersen then allegedly went to his car and retrieved a handgun and reentered the night club and opened fire.

    The victims of the shooting included one of the club’s female dancers, a male employee and a male patron.

    Hughes said police are not releasing the names of the victims until their families have been notified.

    The nightclub, in the Wicksburg community just west of Dothan, is about 100 miles southeast of Montgomery.
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    norm wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    norm wrote:
    the problem is the only legal 'shooting ranges' are in nevada...ROAD TRIP!! :P

    Norm , norm...havent you learned anything here in 100+ pages...nobody uses a gun legally. :shifty:

    :( so i'm locked and loaded and have no where to legally fire it? bummer...i guess i'll just go unload my gun by myself

    does anyone have a copy of guns and ammo magazine? i read it for the articles :think:

    :lol:
    I dont read guns and ammo...too much photoshopping. I like locked and loaded, its more gunpowder and less shiny barrels.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    I'll agree with Zoso -- Compared to the rest of the world, it is my opinion that the USA is obsessed with guns. I know this is a generalization, but that just what I see...88 out of a 100 people own one? I'd say that's an obsession, and an unhealthy one at that.
    This thinking is very biased, they do not own them out of obsession but out of need,
    not everyone can move to a better neighborhood.
    Even in a better neighborhood like mine crime comes to me. Consider the fact that it takes
    police over 10 minutes to arrive with a house alarm call or
    a call that is made by the victim themselves. through 911 .
    Alot happens in 10 minutes.
    It is prudent to be prepared and seeing that most all criminals now carry a gun
    it is the most logical choice.

    Out of need? :lol: :fp: talk about biased.
    You do realize how astronomically high our gun ownership is compared to the rest of the world, right?
    Of the dozens of people I personally know (yes, thats biased too), only one needs his weapon, because it is required of him by his profession (cop).
    And now most/all criminals carry a gun? biased?
    And if gun advocates keep saying that there are millions of gun owners that will never need to use it, where exactly is that need?

    Thanks fot throwing that in too - -"not everyone can move to a better neighbordood"...I agonized through that neighborhood for nealry 7 years, and I never needed a gun.
    Well I am glad you could move Jonny but not all can, you know this,
    and that is an important point.

    Millions is that how many millions? there are millions upon millions upon millions who own guns.
    It is like you said in most households. So obviously there is a need whether you think so or not.
    The person making the choice does. They feel the need because yes most who home invade,
    carjack, rape, murder have guns, even petty robbery now.

    I just don't see how that does not tell you something. People must have the right to choose.
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,072
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    "so i got a shitty lap dance that was only 2 songs instead of the 3 i thought i paid for, so i am going to go shoot up the strip bar now...."

    :fp:

    guns are a great idea!

    i guess the gun did not kill these three innocent people..

    :roll:

    Cops: Unhappy patron kills three at Alabama strip club

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08 ... -club?lite

    Three people were shot and killed and another injured by a dissatisfied patron of a strip club in Alabama late Thursday, police say.

    Houston County Sheriff Andy Hughes told NBC News the shooting happened at Teasers, a topless nightclub outside of Dothan, Ala.

    Police arrested the alleged shooter, Ryan Clark Petersen, 22, at 7:30 a.m. CT and charged him with three counts of capital murder and one count of attempted murder.

    Authorities received a call about a shooting around 11:30 p.m. Thursday. When deputies arrived on scene, they found four people who had been shot.

    Hughes said that a dispute erupted in the club after Petersen complained about a dancer's performance and began touching her. A club employee asked Petersen to leave and escorted him outside. Petersen then allegedly went to his car and retrieved a handgun and reentered the night club and opened fire.

    The victims of the shooting included one of the club’s female dancers, a male employee and a male patron.

    Hughes said police are not releasing the names of the victims until their families have been notified.

    The nightclub, in the Wicksburg community just west of Dothan, is about 100 miles southeast of Montgomery.

    Responsible gun owner at 11:00. Murderer at 11:30.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    ComeToTX wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    "so i got a shitty lap dance that was only 2 songs instead of the 3 i thought i paid for, so i am going to go shoot up the strip bar now...."

    :fp:

    guns are a great idea!

    i guess the gun did not kill these three innocent people..

    :roll:

    Cops: Unhappy patron kills three at Alabama strip club

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08 ... -club?lite

    Three people were shot and killed and another injured by a dissatisfied patron of a strip club in Alabama late Thursday, police say.

    Houston County Sheriff Andy Hughes told NBC News the shooting happened at Teasers, a topless nightclub outside of Dothan, Ala.

    Police arrested the alleged shooter, Ryan Clark Petersen, 22, at 7:30 a.m. CT and charged him with three counts of capital murder and one count of attempted murder.

    Authorities received a call about a shooting around 11:30 p.m. Thursday. When deputies arrived on scene, they found four people who had been shot.

    Hughes said that a dispute erupted in the club after Petersen complained about a dancer's performance and began touching her. A club employee asked Petersen to leave and escorted him outside. Petersen then allegedly went to his car and retrieved a handgun and reentered the night club and opened fire.

    The victims of the shooting included one of the club’s female dancers, a male employee and a male patron.

    Hughes said police are not releasing the names of the victims until their families have been notified.

    The nightclub, in the Wicksburg community just west of Dothan, is about 100 miles southeast of Montgomery.

    Responsible gun owner at 11:00. Murderer at 11:30.
    exactly!

    see how easy it is to go from responsible to murderer?
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    "so i got a shitty lap dance that was only 2 songs instead of the 3 i thought i paid for, so i am going to go shoot up the strip bar now...."

    :fp:

    guns are a great idea!

    i guess the gun did not kill these three innocent people..

    :roll:

    Cops: Unhappy patron kills three at Alabama strip club

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08 ... strip-club?

    I'm sure this responsible gun owner (most probably gun purchased legally...) was only only using his gun in self defense and that the people that got shot deserved it. After all, he felt ripped off....
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    redrock wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    "so i got a shitty lap dance that was only 2 songs instead of the 3 i thought i paid for, so i am going to go shoot up the strip bar now...."

    :fp:

    guns are a great idea!

    i guess the gun did not kill these three innocent people..

    :roll:

    Cops: Unhappy patron kills three at Alabama strip club

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08 ... strip-club?

    I'm sure this responsible gun owner (most probably gun purchased legally...) was only only using his gun in self defense and that the people that got shot deserved it. After all, he felt ripped off....
    i am sorry. you can not start an altercation, shoot someone, and then claim self defense.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    edited August 2012
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    "so i got a shitty lap dance that was only 2 songs instead of the 3 i thought i paid for, so i am going to go shoot up the strip bar now...."

    :fp:

    guns are a great idea!

    i guess the gun did not kill these three innocent people..

    :roll:

    Cops: Unhappy patron kills three at Alabama strip club

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08 ... -club?lite

    Three people were shot and killed and another injured by a dissatisfied patron of a strip club in Alabama late Thursday, police say.

    Houston County Sheriff Andy Hughes told NBC News the shooting happened at Teasers, a topless nightclub outside of Dothan, Ala.

    Police arrested the alleged shooter, Ryan Clark Petersen, 22, at 7:30 a.m. CT and charged him with three counts of capital murder and one count of attempted murder.

    Authorities received a call about a shooting around 11:30 p.m. Thursday. When deputies arrived on scene, they found four people who had been shot.

    Hughes said that a dispute erupted in the club after Petersen complained about a dancer's performance and began touching her. A club employee asked Petersen to leave and escorted him outside. Petersen then allegedly went to his car and retrieved a handgun and reentered the night club and opened fire.

    The victims of the shooting included one of the club’s female dancers, a male employee and a male patron.

    Hughes said police are not releasing the names of the victims until their families have been notified.

    The nightclub, in the Wicksburg community just west of Dothan, is about 100 miles southeast of Montgomery.
    Do you think this guy is your average law abiding person that owns a gun?

    Do you think he owns his gun responsibly as millions and millions do?

    Was his gun legal at all?

    I would say too bad there was not a responsible person there carrying to stop this guy...
    because once again the police are there to clean up a crime scene, after the fact.
    Post edited by pandora on
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    it's all fun and games until someone gets shot.

    then it is self defense and it is the shooter's right to do so...
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    pandora wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    This thinking is very biased, they do not own them out of obsession but out of need,
    not everyone can move to a better neighborhood.
    Even in a better neighborhood like mine crime comes to me. Consider the fact that it takes
    police over 10 minutes to arrive with a house alarm call or
    a call that is made by the victim themselves. through 911 .
    Alot happens in 10 minutes.
    It is prudent to be prepared and seeing that most all criminals now carry a gun
    it is the most logical choice.

    Out of need? :lol: :fp: talk about biased.
    You do realize how astronomically high our gun ownership is compared to the rest of the world, right?
    Of the dozens of people I personally know (yes, thats biased too), only one needs his weapon, because it is required of him by his profession (cop).
    And now most/all criminals carry a gun? biased?
    And if gun advocates keep saying that there are millions of gun owners that will never need to use it, where exactly is that need?

    Thanks fot throwing that in too - -"not everyone can move to a better neighbordood"...I agonized through that neighborhood for nealry 7 years, and I never needed a gun.
    Well I am glad you could move Jonny but not all can, you know this,
    and that is an important point.

    Millions is that how many millions? there are millions upon millions upon millions who own guns.
    It is like you said in most households. So obviously there is a need whether you think so or not.
    The person making the choice does. They feel the need because yes most who home invade,
    carjack, rape, murder have guns, even petty robbery now.

    I just don't see how that does not tell you something. People must have the right to choose.

    You've completely missed the point about moving. Of course I finally moved, but in the 7 years I was there, I was unable to move. But in that 7 years where I was unable, my desire to get a gun NEVER became a NEED.

    Personally, I think your bias is showing. You think people NEED guns now. That is righ tup there along twith the culture that got us into this problem of having too many guns. I will admit my bias, all the people I know dont need guns. Most have even told me this. They get them because they can, its a culture -- its easy, and makes some of them feel empowered. I've never known one person to use their weapon out of need. But I have known several who have lost their ability to own a gun because they either didnt need it or couldnt be responsible enough.

    Just becasue there are a lot of something, doesnt prove need. it proves there is a mrket because of our culture. Does anyone need cigarettes? nope.
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