The Golf Thread

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Tiger moves the needle, huh? Most golf chat in here in a while.

Who knows if he is fully back. But he concluded 8 days of golf with his first win in years and looked damn good doing it. And it wasn't an easy course by any stretch of the imagination. I think there were only 3 sub 70 rounds on Sunday including his 69. Was awesome to see him walk up 18 with it in hand. Can't wait for Augusta. Easter Sunday could be a lot of fun.

I agree with you about Easter; going to be a lot of fun flipping back and forth with the Yankees and Augusta.

I think this win for Tiger is a huge confidence booster for him.

Definitely, dude. That will be great. Love me the spring.

Yeah, definitely. At least reassurance that his hard work is paying off. Yesterday was the first time in a long time where you knew he was going to win and he was in complete control.

Same here.

I caught a little bit yesterday. When Tiger is on, he's unstoppable.

will augusta admit it's first female member!??

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Are no traditions sacred anymore?

it's true! ... corporations can make a difference!!

what made jordan so brilliant was how when he came back in 1995, he was probably a better player than he was in the previous incarnation. He was older. He couldnt dunk as much. And he completely rearranged his game, and came up with the fadeaway jumper and shots on the perimeter which was as lethal and unstoppable as any shot he ever had.

With tiger, he's been retooling and changing his swing for as long as i can remember. its been years of that. his age obviously effects him, and he isnt going to be driving the ball 300 plus yards anymore. he just isnt. Those insane shots arent there anymore. And this is how he seems different from MJ. Tiger isnt the same player he was in 2000. And so far his multiple attempts to change his game have failed. The tiger of 2012 isnt lethal, nor is he feared. the jordan of 1995 and 1996 was just as feared as the jordan of 1991 and 1992.

One of the major things ive always admired about jordan is how proving people wrong drives him. Kobe is the same way. They thrive on people saying "he's old, he's washed up" "he cant do this". With tiger that seems to have evaporated on that Thanksgiving night a few years ago. He's got many people, myself included, saying he's never going to win another major again, and that his tour victories will be few and far between. He's lost millions of fans, disappointed millions, lost endorsements, and hasnt won a major in years, and has only won 1 tour event in years. the desire to prove people wrong isnt there. the desire to prove naysayers wrong doesnt seem to be motivating tiger. and im not sure if it ever did. i think he wanted 19 majors. i think thats all thats driven him since he was a youngster. thats been the motivator.

for whatever reason he hasnt been able to come up with a way to dominate the game like he once did. and i think the scandal didnt help in this matter, and only made things worse.

could tiger rearrange his game and tailor it to his strengths as a veteran and "older" player now and be as dominant and deadly as he was in 2000? sure. but i dont think he will.

i dont think he will win at augusta, nor do i think he will ever win another major

musicismylife78 wrote:

what made jordan so brilliant was how when he came back in 1995, he was probably a better player than he was in the previous incarnation. He was older. He couldnt dunk as much. And he completely rearranged his game, and came up with the fadeaway jumper and shots on the perimeter which was as lethal and unstoppable as any shot he ever had.

With tiger, he's been retooling and changing his swing for as long as i can remember. its been years of that. his age obviously effects him, and he isnt going to be driving the ball 300 plus yards anymore. he just isnt. Those insane shots arent there anymore. And this is how he seems different from MJ. Tiger isnt the same player he was in 2000. And so far his multiple attempts to change his game have failed. The tiger of 2012 isnt lethal, nor is he feared. the jordan of 1995 and 1996 was just as feared as the jordan of 1991 and 1992.

One of the major things ive always admired about jordan is how proving people wrong drives him. Kobe is the same way. They thrive on people saying "he's old, he's washed up" "he cant do this". With tiger that seems to have evaporated on that Thanksgiving night a few years ago. He's got many people, myself included, saying he's never going to win another major again, and that his tour victories will be few and far between. He's lost millions of fans, disappointed millions, lost endorsements, and hasnt won a major in years, and has only won 1 tour event in years. the desire to prove people wrong isnt there. the desire to prove naysayers wrong doesnt seem to be motivating tiger. and im not sure if it ever did. i think he wanted 19 majors. i think thats all thats driven him since he was a youngster. thats been the motivator.

for whatever reason he hasnt been able to come up with a way to dominate the game like he once did. and i think the scandal didnt help in this matter, and only made things worse.

could tiger rearrange his game and tailor it to his strengths as a veteran and "older" player now and be as dominant and deadly as he was in 2000? sure. but i dont think he will.

i dont think he will win at augusta, nor do i think he will ever win another major

There is so much nonsense in here, I don't know where to start. This whole thing is a gigantic assumption about Tigers personality, when in fact, you (or me) really know nothing about what drives him. I'd venture to guess that you are completely off base when saying he doesn't thrive on criticism. Every time he was criticized in the past, he went ape shit. Just ask Ames, for one example. There are many many more.

http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/n ... 0/9258579/

And yeah, his game is different but not sure how you can say he's never going to win a major again when he just beat a legit field on a course as tough as many majors. Dude doesn't need to hit the ball as far as he did, he wins when he putts.

Not sure how many "fans" he lost. That last round at Bay Hill was awesome and he had every single person at 18 chanting his name as he walked off. You will sure as fuck hear a Tiger eagle from anywhere on the course this weekend, especially with the win under his belt.

Edit: And he is averaging 298 yards per drive on the year, which is just fine. He doesn't need to hit it like Bubba.

Cliffy6745 wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

what made jordan so brilliant was how when he came back in 1995, he was probably a better player than he was in the previous incarnation. He was older. He couldnt dunk as much. And he completely rearranged his game, and came up with the fadeaway jumper and shots on the perimeter which was as lethal and unstoppable as any shot he ever had.

With tiger, he's been retooling and changing his swing for as long as i can remember. its been years of that. his age obviously effects him, and he isnt going to be driving the ball 300 plus yards anymore. he just isnt. Those insane shots arent there anymore. And this is how he seems different from MJ. Tiger isnt the same player he was in 2000. And so far his multiple attempts to change his game have failed. The tiger of 2012 isnt lethal, nor is he feared. the jordan of 1995 and 1996 was just as feared as the jordan of 1991 and 1992.

One of the major things ive always admired about jordan is how proving people wrong drives him. Kobe is the same way. They thrive on people saying "he's old, he's washed up" "he cant do this". With tiger that seems to have evaporated on that Thanksgiving night a few years ago. He's got many people, myself included, saying he's never going to win another major again, and that his tour victories will be few and far between. He's lost millions of fans, disappointed millions, lost endorsements, and hasnt won a major in years, and has only won 1 tour event in years. the desire to prove people wrong isnt there. the desire to prove naysayers wrong doesnt seem to be motivating tiger. and im not sure if it ever did. i think he wanted 19 majors. i think thats all thats driven him since he was a youngster. thats been the motivator.

for whatever reason he hasnt been able to come up with a way to dominate the game like he once did. and i think the scandal didnt help in this matter, and only made things worse.

could tiger rearrange his game and tailor it to his strengths as a veteran and "older" player now and be as dominant and deadly as he was in 2000? sure. but i dont think he will.

i dont think he will win at augusta, nor do i think he will ever win another major

There is so much nonsense in here, I don't know where to start. This whole thing is a gigantic assumption about Tigers personality, when in fact, you (or me) really know nothing about what drives him. I'd venture to guess that you are completely off base when saying he doesn't thrive on criticism. Every time he was criticized in the past, he went ape shit. Just ask Ames, for one example. There are many many more.

http://www.worldgolfchampionships.com/n ... 0/9258579/

And yeah, his game is different but not sure how you can say he's never going to win a major again when he just beat a legit field on a course as tough as many majors. Dude doesn't need to hit the ball as far as he did, he wins when he putts.

Not sure how many "fans" he lost. That last round at Bay Hill was awesome and he had every single person at 18 chanting his name as he walked off. You will sure as fuck hear a Tiger eagle from anywhere on the course this weekend, especially with the win under his belt.

Edit: And he is averaging 298 yards per drive on the year, which is just fine. He doesn't need to hit it like Bubba.

Very nice. I started responding to that post, but I was so flustered by that nonsense that I couldn't even type the words and make sense.

RW81233 wrote:

i love the tournament but absolutely have to suppress any attempt to view this despicable (zap-shit)...I mean wonderful, self-fellating (zap-gawd dammit)...I mean historic-, al celebration of what makes really rich white people so great (stun has been set to 20)...I mean never mind the fact that its groundskeepers die at NFL/WWE rates because of the pesticides, never mind that it will take a loophole for a woman to become a member, never mind the obvious propaganda for 1%-ers, it's the fucking Masters. "Can't wait" (Scott, 2010)!

Did the bars open early in your neighborhood today?

anyways, back to golf...always hard to handicap the masters...phil and tiger are perennial favorites...rory will win a couple of these before he's all done...first one could come this year...as for the newer guys, i haven't watched enough golf in the last few years to know...bubba has the game for augusta but not sure he has the head yet...doesn't really matter...it's april in augusta!!