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  • Not a Arod fan but Yanks wouldn't have won in 2009 without him. That said they blew it resigning him to that deal bidding against themself they should've hard balled him.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    No risk in Okijima, minor league contract and they need another lefty somehow. Don't expect much out of him though.

    Yanks need Arod to be some form of Arod again. Whatever helps to get him healthy.

    What is really pissing me off is that the Yankees are now apparantly a small market team and unwilling to upgrade on 1 YEAR FUCKING DEALS, because of budget issues. I understand the $189 million in 2014, I don't like it but I certainly understand where they are coming from. I do not like or understand the unwillingness to sign a good pitcher on a 1 year deal.
  • With luxury tax kuroda will cost 16-17mm I'd take him but not for that amt
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    No risk in Okijima, minor league contract and they need another lefty somehow. Don't expect much out of him though.

    Yanks need Arod to be some form of Arod again. Whatever helps to get him healthy.

    What is really pissing me off is that the Yankees are now apparantly a small market team and unwilling to upgrade on 1 YEAR FUCKING DEALS, because of budget issues. I understand the $189 million in 2014, I don't like it but I certainly understand where they are coming from. I do not like or understand the unwillingness to sign a good pitcher on a 1 year deal.

    Oswalt?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    With luxury tax kuroda will cost 16-17mm I'd take him but not for that amt

    With luxury tax, AJ is a $25 million or something pitcher and they had no problem with that. Why are we now hearing about luxury tax issues?

    I am hoping for a bounce back year from Hughes, but relying on that plus Nova/Freddy having similar seasons is pretty iffy.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    No risk in Okijima, minor league contract and they need another lefty somehow. Don't expect much out of him though.

    Yanks need Arod to be some form of Arod again. Whatever helps to get him healthy.

    What is really pissing me off is that the Yankees are now apparantly a small market team and unwilling to upgrade on 1 YEAR FUCKING DEALS, because of budget issues. I understand the $189 million in 2014, I don't like it but I certainly understand where they are coming from. I do not like or understand the unwillingness to sign a good pitcher on a 1 year deal.

    Oswalt?

    And/or Kuroda
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    No risk in Okijima, minor league contract and they need another lefty somehow. Don't expect much out of him though.

    Yanks need Arod to be some form of Arod again. Whatever helps to get him healthy.

    What is really pissing me off is that the Yankees are now apparantly a small market team and unwilling to upgrade on 1 YEAR FUCKING DEALS, because of budget issues. I understand the $189 million in 2014, I don't like it but I certainly understand where they are coming from. I do not like or understand the unwillingness to sign a good pitcher on a 1 year deal.

    Oswalt?

    And/or Kuroda

    I could've sworn I read something back when Steinbrenner died that Hank or Hal - forget which one - had absolute no interest in owning the team and that the writer wouldn't be surprised if they sold the team in a few years or they had a penchant for wanting to reduce the payroll from where it's been - ie below the luxury tax/doing things completely different from his father.
  • the reason we're hearing about the tax now, and the reason they are trying to get underneath it, is because of the new CBA. If they stay over the cap every year, they will continue to pay 40-50% tax. but if they get under the cap for just 1 year, the next time they go over it, they will pay just 17.5% the first year, and it goes up a few % points every year
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    I could've sworn I read something back when Steinbrenner died that Hank or Hal - forget which one - had absolute no interest in owning the team and that the writer wouldn't be surprised if they sold the team in a few years or they had a penchant for wanting to reduce the payroll from where it's been - ie below the luxury tax/doing things completely different from his father.

    Yeah, there were rumors Hal didn't have much interest a long time back before he took over but that is pretty much put to bed now. It seems he's taken to it. Probably just the NY media trying to stir some shit up. They can't reduce payroll too much anymore with how much money they are making and the new stadium, just not possible. They certainly seem a bit more fiscially responsible and I understand getting under $189 mil for 2014 with the new CBA but I don't see anyway they are selling the team. Just not going to happen. Winning will always be a priority but I don't think they are just going to throw as much money at people like they did, which I don't necessarily have a problem with, just wish they would upgrade on a one year basis for next year.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    DS1119 wrote:
    I'm setting the over under for games played by ARod at 90. I'm taking the under.

    Just saw a report that ARod is off in Germany getting his knee treated. Something's not right. :problem: :think:


    Some specialist, Kobe Bryant recommended him, gona take a part from somewhere and stick it in his knee, help with the pain, hopefully it works, we need A-Man on his game this year.
    he's hoping the treatment comes with some german steroids.

    "A-Man"? really? :wtf:
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Signed Andrum Jones for 1yr/2million. :-|
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    DS1119 wrote:
    Signed Andrum Jones for 1yr/2million. :-|


    ya but it's cheap enough and he's still got some pop in his bat, well a better second half anyway.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Straight up mashed lefties last year, good bench bat, glad he's back.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Keeping hearing the Yanks associated with Garza. I am not a fan of his at all but he would certainly be an upgrade over the current rotation. I wonder what it would take, the Cubs want young pitching and the Yanks have a few good pitching prospects. I obviously wouldn't give up both Betances and Banuelos and I don't think I would even do a package highlighted by Banuelos. Betances has such mixed reviews, his control is an issue but some see him as a potential ace and some see him in the bullpen. I really like the kid but if they could possibly do a package with Betances, Noesi (possibly) and a prospect lower in the system, I would definitely think you would have to do it. I don't think the Cubs would though and I wouldn't go anymore than that.
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    He's a nice pitcher to have... but to acquire? Not so sure. I look at him and wonder if he would actually give the Yanks anymore than they could already piece together with players they already have.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    DS1119 wrote:
    He's a nice pitcher to have... but to acquire? Not so sure. I look at him and wonder if he would actually give the Yanks anymore than they could already piece together with players they already have.

    Well, I think Garza is clearly better than everyone they have not named Carsten Charles, but with what the maket has been for good starting pitching, I just don't think the return is worth what it would take to get him. Defintiely an upgrade but not worth what the price will likely be. I put what I would give up and I don't see anyway that is accepted by the Cubs. I would include Romine in the trade if it could put it over the top since he clearly doesn't have a place in the teams future with Martin, Montero and Sanchez. Just think they could do better.
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    He's a nice pitcher to have... but to acquire? Not so sure. I look at him and wonder if he would actually give the Yanks anymore than they could already piece together with players they already have.

    Well, I think Garza is clearly better than everyone they have not named Carsten Charles, but with what the maket has been for good starting pitching, I just don't think the return is worth what it would take to get him. Defintiely an upgrade but not worth what the price will likely be. I put what I would give up and I don't see anyway that is accepted by the Cubs. I would include Romine in the trade if it could put it over the top since he clearly doesn't have a place in the teams future with Martin, Montero and Sanchez. Just think they could do better.


    I just don't see trading prospects for a guy like this.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    DS1119 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    He's a nice pitcher to have... but to acquire? Not so sure. I look at him and wonder if he would actually give the Yanks anymore than they could already piece together with players they already have.

    Well, I think Garza is clearly better than everyone they have not named Carsten Charles, but with what the maket has been for good starting pitching, I just don't think the return is worth what it would take to get him. Defintiely an upgrade but not worth what the price will likely be. I put what I would give up and I don't see anyway that is accepted by the Cubs. I would include Romine in the trade if it could put it over the top since he clearly doesn't have a place in the teams future with Martin, Montero and Sanchez. Just think they could do better.


    I just don't see trading prospects for a guy like this.

    Agreed, unless the price is right and I can't see that happening.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Randy Levine, please let Cashman do his job and do not step in and sign Jackson to an obscene contract, I beg you.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    MLBTRs projected arbitration raises for the Yanks. Some pretty damn big ones there. I'll be happy to see Gardner getting paid that, feel like he has been around forever not getting paid.

    Russell Martin
    Last year: $4 million
    Projected this year: $6.7 million
    Martin was signed to a one-year deal, with the Yankees well aware that he would remain under team control for a second year. Brian Cashman has not ruled out the idea of agreeing to a multi-year deal with Martin, though the Yankees might prefer a one-year contract to buy time while they determine future roles for Austin Romine and Jesus Montero.

    Brett Gardner
    Last year: Roughly $500,000
    Projected this year: $3.3 million
    In his first year of arbitration, Gardner seems to be in line for the biggest raise. Until now he’s been remarkably cheap, but the Yankees are about to pay Gardner significant money to keep playing left field on a regular basis.

    Phil Hughes
    Last year: $2.7 million
    Projected this year: $3 million
    Last year was Hughes’ first year of arbitration eligibility, and he agreed to a one-year deal before the case went to a hearing. After an injury-shortened season, he’s likely to get only a modest raise.

    Joba Chamberlain
    Last year: $1.4 million
    Projected this year: $1.7 million
    Like Hughes, Chamberlain avoided arbitration last winter and agreed to a one-year deal. Also like Hughes, Chamberlain is coming off an injury-shortened year that likely means only a modest raise heading into next season.

    Boone Logan
    Last year: $1.2 million
    Projected this year: $1.6 million
    This is Logan’s third year of arbitration eligibility, but he’s a lefty specialist, so he’s not going to break the bank. Given what the Yankees have paid to left-handers who were stuck on the disabled list, Logan’s salary isn’t much of an issue.

    Dave Robertson
    Last year: Roughly $500,000
    Projected this year: $1.5 million
    You could certainly make the case that Robertson was the most valuable of the six guys on this list, but he’s a middle reliever in his first year of arbitration eligibility, so he could certainly receive the smallest payday of the bunch. That said, tripling his salary is no small thing. These things add up.