What does God look like ?
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puremagic wrote:Isn’t God meant to instill fear Man? Isn’t this the backbone of the meaning to the reference ‘I’ll put the fear of God in you’ when God, Man and Church dictates punishment? Isn’t this the crutch of our modern crusade around the world? We play God everyday because we’ve created God in our image. People aren’t afraid of the concept of God; people have become woeful of MAN’s manipulation of the God factor to justify their means to an end.
Religion has replaced God, if not, then why are there so many religions and supposedly only one God? Is it because we have a need to personalize things, we’ve created our own concept of the God factor, its meaning and its interpretation to the point that it has become a ‘my God is better than your God’ mentality? If not, what’s the point in having Catholics, Christians, Baptists, Protestants or Evangelists - Why aren’t we all Jewish?
cause 'we' all worship CHRIST. which makes us christians.
catholics, baptists, protestants and evangelists are all christian. why we arent all jewish is cause of the worship of jesus christ. jesus was a jew.. those who worship/ped him are CHRISTian. in the beginning they were all small 'c' catholic. this was derived from the greek word katholikos, which means universal. time passed and schisms appeared within the christian/catholic church. those small 'c' catholics who remained true to the original church became big 'C' catholics, as other denominations appeared and identified themselves as lutheran, protestant, baptists, whatever.hear my name
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Godfather. wrote:it just dawned on me this morning that this question created offense to some of you or you wouldn't have posted sarcastic replys,usally these kinds of replys are an attempt to hide fears or doubts within or about ourselfs...does the thought of God scare you ? maybe if you cover your eyes with your hands it will all go away ?
it also showed the lack of respect people have for each other on the train and the world in general, we all have beliefs and standards we live by are ones beliefs better than the next persons ? are your standards higher ?
who are we to judge the next person for the color of their skin,where they grew up,how they dress or the God they believe in ? what is it inside of people that the name of God scares them to a point that they feel they have nothing but rude or scarcastic remarks towards the beliefs of others to say ?.....it's fear my friends plain and simple....vanity drenched fear, I mean who on earth or the heavens could be smarter or have control over you or your life other than you right ?
Godfather.
don't get your panties in a bunch. seriously, what did you expect with such a silly question? if there is a god, no one knows what it looks like.Gimli 1993
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pandora wrote:Yes Godfather it is fear, it causes some to be cruel, disrespectful and insecure.
I love the post above about the universe and consciousness and sight being just one sense.
We have senses that have not been channeled or discovered as of yet ....
hurry up Dec 2012!
I don't fear that which I don't know exists. Kinda like bigfoot or Loch Ness or ghosts. I find it laughable that you think we jest out of fear.Gimli 1993
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pandora wrote:So silliness brings people to the emotional point of being ridiculing, hurtful, insulting ...
really :?
thats a stretch.
It is so very obvious some are defensive and that is why they react as they do.
So you do see the criticizing also ... why criticize another's beliefs at all?
What is the purpose in that? Why come and ridicule at all if not out of fear and insecurity,
if not out of the need to prove something to someone ... or disapprove one might say.
the funny thing is you don't see how condescending you are to those who don't share you beliefs. we could also claim that is out of fear for your god and your eternal life.
why the fuck do I need to rejoice about your beliefs when you don't rejoice about mine? I don't give a shit what you believe, so I need not rejoice in it.
asking what god looks like is like asking what life on Rigel 7 looks like. if it exists, nobody knows. so why ask other than to incite flames like you and GF do nothing but?Gimli 1993
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Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
I don't fear that which I don't know exists. Kinda like bigfoot or Loch Ness or ghosts. I find it laughable that you think we jest out of fear.
fear of the unknown is most common, the boogie man under your bed or in the closet, the strange noises you hear in the house when your all alone, not being able to see in the dark but feeling a presents near you, fear of being alone or fear of death and if there is a God will I go to hell or will he forgive my sins ? etc.
so tell me what do you hide behind you laugh at others...maybe your questions of or out of fear ? EVERYBODY feels fear of some kind or another it's nothing to be ashamed of it's human nature.please accept my reply with all due respect for you.
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Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
the funny thing is you don't see how condescending you are to those who don't share you beliefs. we could also claim that is out of fear for your god and your eternal life.
why the fuck do I need to rejoice about your beliefs when you don't rejoice about mine? I don't give a shit what you believe, so I need not rejoice in it.
asking what god looks like is like asking what life on Rigel 7 looks like. if it exists, nobody knows. so why ask other than to incite flames like you and GF do nothing but?
How do you know I do not rejoice with you? You are on the defensive perhaps
you can not tell. Rather combative.
No one answered my question...
why come and ridicule and criticize? what is the purpose
and truly there is nothing more condescending then just that!
As far as fear it is showing in those with their defensive attitudes ...
otherwise one would think they would be happy with others beliefs.
No need for put downs or insulting another's beliefs when one is not
on the defensive.
They are comfortable with their beliefs and allow others to share theirs
without being threatened.
This was a great question, not at all silly, only to some non believers,
There were some great answers ... answers from the heart.
For me ...this question was about feelings and some shared them beautifully.Post edited by pandora on0 -
Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
I don't fear that which I don't know exists. Kinda like bigfoot or Loch Ness or ghosts. I find it laughable that you think we jest out of fear.
when they perceive an unfounded threat. Often from previous experience or even
subconsciously.
How many times have we heard some say they hate it when believers try to convert them...
so they are on the defensive even when a believer is not doing that....
this the unfounded unprovoked threat.
This based in fear ....again are you thinking black and white ... monster etc :?
I am not talking about a fear of God just threatened by the messenger to the
point of being defensive.
No need to defend when we respect others beliefs. No need to ridicule, make fun of,
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pandora wrote:I am sorry you can not rejoice with others you are missing out on much.
How do you know I do not rejoice with you? You are on the defensive perhaps
you can not tell. Rather combative.
No one answered my question...
why come and ridicule and criticize? what is the purpose
and truly there is nothing more condescending then just that!
As far as fear it is showing in those with their defensive attitudes ...
otherwise one would think they would be happy with others beliefs.
No need for put downs or insulting another's beliefs when one is not
on the defensive.
They are comfortable with their beliefs and allow others to share theirs
without being threatened.
This was a great question, not at all silly, only to some non believers,
There were some great answers ... answers from the heart.
For me ...this question was about feelings and some shared them beautifully.
Yes it is silly because it can't be answered weather there is a god or not.0 -
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pandora wrote:
Yes it is silly because it can't be answered weather there is a god or not.
but if there is a god it is not a thing or a person, it has no personality, it is beyond all comprehension, and therefore there is no point questioning what it looks like because we can't even comprehend it.
because if there was a god with personality and form then it could be measured and known and proved0 -
satansbed wrote:
but if there is a god it is not a thing or a person, it has no personality, it is beyond all comprehension, and therefore there is no point questioning what it looks like because we can't even comprehend it.
because if there was a god with personality and form then it could be measured and known and proved
it could be a fun exercise to feel God then project your feelings into something more tangible
pretend our senses allow us to know something more ... not based on the five proven senses0 -
I think it's a rather lazy assessment to conclude that everyone who responed to this thread tongue-in-cheek did so out of fear. For me, it's just a trite and trivial question, that thinks it's being profound. If God exists, then I think there are a lot more important, and far more interesting, questions to be answered than what he/she/it looks like. In fact, if we mean by "God" some kind of spirit, personal or impersonal, rather than a corporeal, physical being, then not only do I agree that it is a silly question, I think it's an entirely meaningless one.
I'd rather get answers to the much more pertinent questions in William Blake's poem:
Why art thou silent and invisible, Father of Jealousy?
Why doest thou hide thyself in clouds from every searching eye?
Why darkness and obscurity in all thy words and laws
that none dare eat the fruit but from the wily serpent's jaws...?93: Slane
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pandora wrote:How many times have we heard some say they hate it when believers try to convert them...
so they are on the defensive even when a believer is not doing that....
this the unfounded unprovoked threat.
This based in fear ....again are you thinking black and white ... monster etc :?
I am not talking about a fear of God just threatened by the messenger to the
point of being defensive.
No need to defend when we respect others beliefs. No need to ridicule, make fun of,
or insult.
No, it has nothing to do with fear. That's just what you choose to believe because it makes you feel good about yourself and supports your illusion that you know something that others don't.
What people hate is being repeatedly spoken to in a patronizing and condescending manner by people who profess to be in possession of some higher knowledge/wisdom, but who are incapable of explaining what that knowledge is. As far as I'm concerned, the only people exhibiting fear on this message board are those who continue trying to shove their psuedo-religious babble down everyone's throats at every available opportunity and who get all defensive when asked to clarify their beliefs.0 -
wolfamongwolves wrote:I think it's a rather lazy assessment to conclude that everyone who responed to this thread tongue-in-cheek did so out of fear. For me, it's just a trite and trivial question, that thinks it's being profound. If God exists, then I think there are a lot more important, and far more interesting, questions to be answered than what he/she/it looks like. In fact, if we mean by "God" some kind of all-powerful spirit, personal or impersonal, then not only do I agree that it is a silly question, I think it's an entirely meaningless one.
I'd rather get answers to the much more pertinent questions in William Blake's poem:
Why art thou silent and invisible, Father of Jealousy?
Why doest thou hide thyself in clouds from every searching eye?
Why darkness and obscurity in all thy words and laws
that none dare eat the fruit but from the wily serpent's jaws...?
I said those who were defensive and ridiculed the beliefs of others,
this all they had to contribute :? why?
I think it is a deep question, a cool and thought provoking question that lends to creativity.
But then I believe in God, I enjoy creativity in others. It had great potential.
But many showed up to call it silly, make it silly because they can not believe.
Your questions all pertain to religion ... what religion says is God, who and what.
But what if you knew God had nothing to do with religion ... just an if
I wonder what interesting questions you would then have.
I don't think it would be ... why do you hide? why are you jealous?
why are you confusing? and what's up with the snake?
I have a feeling your questions would be entirely different.0 -
Byrnzie wrote:
No, it has nothing to do with fear. That's just what you choose to believe because it makes you feel good about yourself and supports your illusion that you know something that others don't.
What people hate is being repeatedly spoken to in a patronizing and condescending manner by people who profess to be in possession of some higher knowledge/wisdom, but who are incapable of explaining what that knowledge is. As far as I'm concerned, the only people exhibiting fear on this message board are those who continue trying to shove their psuedo-religious babble down everyone's throats at every available opportunity and who get all defensive when asked to clarify their beliefs.
why so defensive then if not perceiving a threat :?0 -
pandora wrote:For myself, I did not say everyone who responded
I said those who were defensive and ridiculed the beliefs of others,
this all they had to contribute :? why?
I think it is a deep question, a cool and thought provoking question that lends to creativity.
But then I believe in God, I enjoy creativity in others. It had great potential.
But many showed up to call it silly, make it silly because they can not believe.
Your questions all pertain to religion ... what religion says is God, who and what.
But what if you knew God had nothing to do with religion ... just an if
I wonder what interesting questions you would then have.
I don't think it would be ... why do you hide? why are you jealous?
why are you confusing? and what's up with the snake?
I have a feeling your questions would be entirely different.
I know there is a difference between God and religion, Pandora. The quote is from William Blake, who was a Christian, so the questions are, naturally, framed within the imagery of his belief. That does not mean that they are not applicable beyond the bounds of that particular religious structure, to the broader questions of the nature of god, irrespective of religion. And I think my questions would be largely the same.
I stated exactly why I think it's a silly question, and my reason to think so, and to say so, has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with ridiculing anybody. My thinking that it is a silly question has to do with nothing other that the triviality and meaninglessness of the question. End of. I'll say it again that I think that is an unfair judgment and it's highly presumptuous of you to say people "made it silly because they cannot believe". That's just plain wrong.93: Slane
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pandora wrote:There is nothing more condescending than ridicule ... but this you know why you do it.
why so defensive then if not perceiving a threat :?
Who's being defensive?0 -
wolfamongwolves wrote:
I know there is a difference between God and religion, Pandora. The quote is from William Blake, who was a Christian, so the questions are, naturally, framed within the imagery of his belief. That does not mean that they are not applicable beyond the bounds of that particular religious structure, to the broader questions of the nature of god, irrespective of religion. And I think my questions would be largely the same.
I stated exactly why I think it's a silly question, and my reason to think so, and to say so, has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with ridiculing anybody. My thinking that it is a silly question has to do with nothing other that the triviality and meaninglessness of the question. End of. I'll say it again that I think that is an unfair judgment and it's highly presumptuous of you to say people "made it silly because they cannot believe". That's just plain wrong.
I'm surprised at your questions if you could ask anything ...
you are asking questions created by religion, not God,
seeking answers from God, not religion, in my opinion.
Well for the respect of others who were taking the question seriously...
in the nature it was created and presented one would think that those who thought it silly would have refrained from making it sillier, refrained from being insulting and cruel, and would have used good common sense and not attempted to offend other posters and their beliefs.
One would think that because that is reasonable,
but one cannot depend on that it seems, unfortunately.
And who is wrong?
for me that is the some doing the ridiculing ... the some on the defensive
the some lacking respect and the some admitting proudly to it all!0
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