What does God look like ?

Jeanwah

Godfather. wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Why is it that the believers use fear in labeling others?

as I said it was just an obesevation on my part ..my opinion, not that of believers in general


Godfather.

Gotcha.

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio wrote:

pandora wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

So you are saying that people in this thread don't realize that they are afraid of something that doesn't exist and that is why they criticize some religion.
I am not looking at fear as black and white. Obviously we're talking about emotions here...I cant physically see Byrnzie banging his head against his keyboard.
I think people who quickly dismiss it as fear, have a problem only seeing it as black and white. So you can't believe that maybe one just thinks some of this is silly? It cant be silly, it can only be fear?

So silliness brings people to the emotional point of being ridiculing, hurtful, insulting ...
really :?
thats a stretch.
It is so very obvious some are defensive and that is why they react as they do.

So you do see the criticizing also ... why criticize another's beliefs at all?

What is the purpose in that? Why come and ridicule at all if not out of fear and insecurity,
if not out of the need to prove something to someone ... or disapprove one might say.

The thing I think you're missing is that when some non-believers criticize religion, they might just be pointing out why they don't subscribe to it or why they feel its contradictory...Sometimes criticism is good you know. Constructive criticism sometimes opens the mind to something someone doesnt see...You see it as an attack, I see it otherwise. I also see people pointing out contradictory things in religion, which usually goes unanswered, especially around here. Why was the post where I quoted Cosmo dismissed by everyone? Easy answer: there is no answer. And its contradictory. I call that out, not out of fear, because I find it hard to digest that other people just brush this stuff off and say "well, God works in mysterious ways!" :?

satansbed wrote:
Godfather. wrote:
it just dawned on me this morning that this question created offense to some of you or you wouldn't have posted sarcastic replys,usally these kinds of replys are an attempt to hide fears or doubts within or about ourselfs...does the thought of God scare you ? maybe if you cover your eyes with your hands it will all go away ?

it also showed the lack of respect people have for each other on the train and the world in general, we all have beliefs and standards we live by are ones beliefs better than the next persons ? are your standards higher ?
who are we to judge the next person for the color of their skin,where they grew up,how they dress or the God they believe in ? what is it inside of people that the name of God scares them to a point that they feel they have nothing but rude or scarcastic remarks towards the beliefs of others to say ?.....it's fear my friends plain and simple....vanity drenched fear, I mean who on earth or the heavens could be smarter or have control over you or your life other than you right ?

Godfather.


Nah bru its just that a stupid question deserves stupid answers

JP what is this from SB
not on the train Bro.

Godfather.

Godfather.

Jeanwah wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Why is it that the believers use fear in labeling others?

as I said it was just an obesevation on my part ..my opinion, not that of believers in general


Godfather.

Gotcha.

Nooooo you didn't.


Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

Godfather. wrote:

JP what is this from SB
not on the train Bro.

Godfather.

It may be disrespectful, but its not fear.
Thats his opinion though. To some people, i'm sure it is a stupid question because if you take it literally as anon-believer, it is kinda asinine. But if you take the thousands of descriptions from history (especially the Bible), and decide to have a discussion about it (whether a believer or non-believer) you will get some colorful descriptions. Persoanlly, i've never read that passage from Revelations..I try not to rush judgement of it because I dont know its context, but it came across as some very whacky shit to me. (not fear, btw)

satansbed

pandora wrote:

So silliness brings people to the emotional point of being ridiculing, hurtful, insulting ...
really :?
thats a stretch.
It is so very obvious some are defensive and that is why they react as they do.

So you do see the criticizing also ... why criticize another's beliefs at all?

What is the purpose in that? Why come and ridicule at all if not out of fear and insecurity,
if not out of the need to prove something to someone ... or disapprove one might say.

Aww your insulted, well guess what no one has the right not to be offended

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9HRLvfb ... ata_player

redrock

Godfather. wrote:

why is this planet so different from all the other planets sorrounding us ? why is it the only planet that we have seen from here to mars and beyond that can sustain life ?

Godfather.

'That we have seen...' Key words Godfather. We don't know what's 'out there'. And what about this new planet recently discovered just beyond our solar system - Kepler-22? Slap bang in the middle of the Goldilocks zone - could sustain life, just like earth.

I think it would be very arrogant and presumptuous of us to think we are the only planet with an 'evolved' life form. I'm sure there are a number of them yet to be discovered (or have they already discovered us?) though life forms may be different - 'It's life Jim, but not as we know it'!

But then this doesn't really have anything to do with this thread, so sorry I digressed.

Back to what does god look like... As it is anthropomorphic, it has the attributes those who need to believe in one gave it. This to be able to bring an 'unknown/unthinkable' to a level they can master. So their human attributes have been transposed to their god. Physically, there are the traditional images of, what it would seem, a christian based god (since there are talks of jesus, I am assuming this thread is mainly discussing this kind of god). This is the guy in the sky with the long white hair, white beard and flowing robes. Though god shouldn't have any physical representation as he is immaterial. One believing in god's perception of this 'nature' will be of emotions humans can understand - compassion, love, etc. but maybe thought of 100/1000 or infinitely more that we could ever be capable of ourselves as humans.

Depending on your culture, whether one is following a religion or not, if one believes, he/she has been in a way 'conditioned' by religion's (man's) representation of god - whether one would like to admit it or not.

What god means to the people who believe in him is a very different question.

Oh... btw.. it's not fear (or insecurity)...

pandora

satansbed wrote:

pandora wrote:

So silliness brings people to the emotional point of being ridiculing, hurtful, insulting ...
really :?
thats a stretch.
It is so very obvious some are defensive and that is why they react as they do.

So you do see the criticizing also ... why criticize another's beliefs at all?

What is the purpose in that? Why come and ridicule at all if not out of fear and insecurity,
if not out of the need to prove something to someone ... or disapprove one might say.

Aww your insulted, well guess what no one has the right not to be offended

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9HRLvfb ... ata_player

wish you could have answered my questions instead of patronizing another human being

pandora

dignin wrote:

I think you're right. I am full of fear, I fear for the human race when intelligent and mostly rational adults can believe in this fairy tale we call god. No wonder we make a mess of everything.

thank you for making my point

those who are defensive can not recognize their own defensive behavior
and the need to ridicule others beliefs because of it

Cosmo

I don't get it.
Why is it mean and disrespectful to disagree with someone regarding religion?
I mean, I don't believe the Christians got it right... neither do the Muslims or the Jews or the Scientologists or even the Atheists. I respect their beliefs as their own... and choose a different path by following my own beliefs.
Just because I do not believe what they believe... I am rude and disrespectful to them?
I don't get it.

Lizard

Come on Godfather. You wanted to provoke by asking a question that cannot be answered.






except by me...................

Here is God:

Cosmo

Godfather. wrote:

why is this planet so different from all the other planets sorrounding us ? why is it the only planet that we have seen from here to mars and beyond that can sustain life ?

Godfather.

...
The important variable in this quation is time... the Earth can sustain life at this time.
...
It will all end some day... the planet's core will cool and he Earth will die. The Sun will cool and it will die, taking the remnants of the Earth with it. Our galaxy is on a collision course with Andromeda and that day, many things will change.
We just happen to be living in a time when all of the factors are right. Hasn't always been that way... won't always be that way.
...
Maybe... instead of hoping there is some Heaven on the other side of Death's door... we celebrate the one thing we know for certain... that we are alive today.

Godfather.

Cosmo wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

why is this planet so different from all the other planets sorrounding us ? why is it the only planet that we have seen from here to mars and beyond that can sustain life ?

Godfather.

...
The important variable in this quation is time... the Earth can sustain life at this time.
...
It will all end some day... the planet's core will cool and he Earth will die. The Sun will cool and it will die, taking the remnants of the Earth with it. Our galaxy is on a collision course with Andromeda and that day, many things will change.
We just happen to be living in a time when all of the factors are right. Hasn't always been that way... won't always be that way.
...
Maybe... instead of hoping there is some Heaven on the other side of Death's door... we celebrate the one thing we know for certain... that we are alive today.

wow what a great reply ! as you know I am a believer but always enjoy a good honest from the heart reply
thanks Cosmo.

Godfather.

Godfather.

Lizard wrote:

Come on Godfather. You wanted to provoke by asking a question that cannot be answered.






except by me...................

Here is God:

actually I was hoping for something a little different but I should have known better btw cool pic ! that is a piece of great art.

Godfather.

pandora

Lizard wrote:

Come on Godfather. You wanted to provoke by asking a question that cannot be answered.






except by me...................

Here is God:

I thought the question was ....
thought provoking
and enjoyed some of the replies by those who put some serious thought into it ...
believers and nonbelievers

its kind of a cool subject indeed

JonnyPistachio

pandora wrote:

its kind of a cool subject indeed

I agree. A lot of my initial responses, I kept to myself though at first, not wanting to offend.
Lizard's response got me thinking though...

Many images of God describe an older, strong, white bearded white man.
I find this common depiction a narcissistic and self-indulgent reflection (plz note, this is criticism due to disbelief, not fear) of who used to makes the rules.
Robes and everything is always flowing..it must be breezy in Heaven.

My opinion, if there is a God, he/she/it doesnt have a "look", and cant look like anything.
I find the idea of Jesus, or Son of God being sent to earth in human form to teach us a lesson, a little hard to believe. Again, I now criticize the religion that was taught to me as a child, due to my personal choices and my understanding of the religion as it pertains to my environment, nothing more, nothing less...

BinauralJam

redrock wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

why is this planet so different from all the other planets sorrounding us ? why is it the only planet that we have seen from here to mars and beyond that can sustain life ?

Godfather.

'That we have seen...' Key words Godfather. We don't know what's 'out there'. And what about this new planet recently discovered just beyond our solar system - Kepler-22? Slap bang in the middle of the Goldilocks zone - could sustain life, just like earth.

I think it would be very arrogant and presumptuous of us to think we are the only planet with an 'evolved' life form. I'm sure there are a number of them yet to be discovered (or have they already discovered us?) though life forms may be different - 'It's life Jim, but not as we know it'!

But then this doesn't really have anything to do with this thread, so sorry I digressed.

Back to what does god look like... As it is anthropomorphic, it has the attributes those who need to believe in one gave it. This to be able to bring an 'unknown/unthinkable' to a level they can master. So their human attributes have been transposed to their god. Physically, there are the traditional images of, what it would seem, a christian based god (since there are talks of jesus, I am assuming this thread is mainly discussing this kind of god). This is the guy in the sky with the long white hair, white beard and flowing robes. Though god shouldn't have any physical representation as he is immaterial. One believing in god's perception of this 'nature' will be of emotions humans can understand - compassion, love, etc. but maybe thought of 100/1000 or infinitely more that we could ever be capable of ourselves as humans.

Depending on your culture, whether one is following a religion or not, if one believes, he/she has been in a way 'conditioned' by religion's (man's) representation of god - whether one would like to admit it or not.

What god means to the people who believe in him is a very different question.

Oh... btw.. it's not fear (or insecurity)...

pandora

JonnyPistachio wrote:

pandora wrote:

its kind of a cool subject indeed

I agree. A lot of my initial responses, I kept to myself though at first, not wanting to offend.
Lizard's response got me thinking though...

Many images of God describe an older, strong, white bearded white man.
I find this common depiction a narcissistic and self-indulgent reflection (plz note, this is criticism due to disbelief, not fear) of who used to makes the rules.
Robes and everything is always flowing..it must be breezy in Heaven.

My opinion, if there is a God, he/she/it doesnt have a "look", and cant look like anything.
I find the idea of Jesus, or Son of God being sent to earth in human form to teach us a lesson, a little hard to believe. Again, I now criticize the religion that was taught to me as a child, due to my personal choices and my understanding of the religion as it pertains to my environment, nothing more, nothing less...

breezy in heaven that is a precious thought could be a lovely poem

where's Godfather

I believe in miracles and for me, it is here one finds God
and from that point forward God is always there...
I feel God, I live God . This is what the senses I have now tell me
this is what miracles have shown me.

puremagic

Isn’t God meant to instill fear Man? Isn’t this the backbone of the meaning to the reference ‘I’ll put the fear of God in you’ when God, Man and Church dictates punishment? Isn’t this the crutch of our modern crusade around the world? We play God everyday because we’ve created God in our image. People aren’t afraid of the concept of God; people have become woeful of MAN’s manipulation of the God factor to justify their means to an end.

Religion has replaced God, if not, then why are there so many religions and supposedly only one God? Is it because we have a need to personalize things, we’ve created our own concept of the God factor, its meaning and its interpretation to the point that it has become a ‘my God is better than your God’ mentality? If not, what’s the point in having Catholics, Christians, Baptists, Protestants or Evangelists - Why aren’t we all Jewish?

juan lester

i've seen God. ya'll have too.



amen brothers and sisters

BinauralJam

juan lester wrote:

i've seen God. ya'll have too.



amen brothers and sisters

Too Good to be True i'd Love it though