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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    edited August 2011
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    i just appreciate the irony here.

    you love andy reid so much and always talk about how great he is and how underappreciated he is…yet he, according to you, repeatedly goes with quarterbacks who are preventing the eagles from winning a super bowl.

    so, therefore, you must enjoy not winning super bowls :lol: ….obviously i’m kidding. that dynamic is just funny to me

    I thought mcnabb would win one up utnil the arizona game. once the eagles got the ball, 2 mins left, down 7...I knew the game was over. reid probably kept him one year too long, but he saw the light as well. vick is the first qb that reid has gone with that I have disagreed with.

    reid is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise. by far

    Reid is no doubt just cant believe how thread bare he has left the O-Line

    Vick can get out of the way most time but he's gonna take a pounding

    The line hasn't started together as a unit and that's scary with 2 rookies on the line
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  • Phantom Pain
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    The Juggler wrote:
    te]

    pretty sure he'd give you a better option than what pjhawks said. his response is reminiscent of being back in college and playing that game drunk as hell at 3 in the morning. ALL PASSES, ALL THE TIME. YEAH! :mrgreen:


    There are running plays in Madden ?

    :lol:

    All 4 downs are passing regardless of field position

    :D
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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    i just appreciate the irony here.

    you love andy reid so much and always talk about how great he is and how underappreciated he is…yet he, according to you, repeatedly goes with quarterbacks who are preventing the eagles from winning a super bowl.

    so, therefore, you must enjoy not winning super bowls :lol: ….obviously i’m kidding. that dynamic is just funny to me

    I thought mcnabb would win one up utnil the arizona game. once the eagles got the ball, 2 mins left, down 7...I knew the game was over. reid probably kept him one year too long, but he saw the light as well. vick is the first qb that reid has gone with that I have disagreed with.

    reid is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise. by far

    St. Louis game also they ran the ball down are throats in the 2nd half

    The D gets a pass around here (in philly I mean) B Dawk is a living legend but those defenses cost us plenty in the playoffs

    I'm not singling him out as the cause but just like McNabb gets blamed he should also take the blame for these games
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    you're the head coach of a football team (god help us all). your quarterback clearly does not have it today. he's completing less than 50% of his passes. his offensive line is giving up sacks left and right. you also have one of the better running backs in the league.

    as his coach, what would you do to help him out?

    well any team completing less than 50% of their passes in any NFL game ain't winning period. and how many teams win in any sport when their best players don't play well? our best players are the qb and wide receivers just so you know.

    but anyway i'd...

    throw screens to mccoy (since that is by far where he is best), tell your QB to use his legs (unstoppable when scrambling) and not throw into tight coverage/interceptions , put jackson back to return punts and send your stud receivers long and hope for big plays. my best chance of winning when my qb is not playing well is to limit turnovers and come up with 2 or 3 big plays and by god we have the players to come up with big plays. we would NEVER score 21+ points running the ball.

    this isn't a video game dude. you're basically gonna hope for a big punt return and throw it deep all game?

    tell the qb to use his legs more? the same qb who missed multiple games for that same reason? the same qb who was nursing sore ribs in the 2nd half of the season? you want to voluntarily put him in greater danger?

    telling the quarterback to not throw interceptions is a good one, though. i like that one. that is always good advice to any young quarterback out there. "don't throw interceptions!" :lol: ----he's having an OFF day! he's not making those passes! you can't just tell him to start making them. :?

    if you want to limit turnovers in a game where your quarterback is erratic and being chased all over the field--you run the ball more to keep the defense honest which will open up some opportunities for play action and those big plays you're hoping for.

    i do agree with you on the screen plays though. everything else kind of sounds like a drunk college kid's game plan in madden.
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  • The Juggler
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    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    te]

    pretty sure he'd give you a better option than what pjhawks said. his response is reminiscent of being back in college and playing that game drunk as hell at 3 in the morning. ALL PASSES, ALL THE TIME. YEAH! :mrgreen:


    There are running plays in Madden ?

    :lol:

    All 4 downs are passing regardless of field position

    :D

    you would hate watching my brother and i play madden. both of us always make it a point to establish a running game. all about ball control and controlling the clock to us :mrgreen:
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler wrote:

    pretty sure he'd give you a better option than what pjhawks said. his response is reminiscent of being back in college and playing that game drunk as hell at 3 in the morning. ALL PASSES, ALL THE TIME. YEAH! :mrgreen:

    90% of mccoy's big runs are draw plays and quick hitters based off the passing game. he doesn't gain his yards when we pound it into the line. have you seen this team try to gain a yard on 3rd and 4th and 1 in the last few years? apparantly not.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    te]

    pretty sure he'd give you a better option than what pjhawks said. his response is reminiscent of being back in college and playing that game drunk as hell at 3 in the morning. ALL PASSES, ALL THE TIME. YEAH! :mrgreen:


    There are running plays in Madden ?

    :lol:

    All 4 downs are passing regardless of field position

    :D

    you would hate watching my brother and i play madden. both of us always make it a point to establish a running game. all about ball control and controlling the clock to us :mrgreen:

    adults playing video games :roll: :roll: :roll: - do you wear jerseys when you play?
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Juggler wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    te]

    pretty sure he'd give you a better option than what pjhawks said. his response is reminiscent of being back in college and playing that game drunk as hell at 3 in the morning. ALL PASSES, ALL THE TIME. YEAH! :mrgreen:


    There are running plays in Madden ?

    :lol:

    All 4 downs are passing regardless of field position

    :D

    you would hate watching my brother and i play madden. both of us always make it a point to establish a running game. all about ball control and controlling the clock to us :mrgreen:

    booooooooooooorrrrrrrrring

    HaHa...I haven't played Madden religiously in years

    Buddy of mine picked up 2012 I may check it out
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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    pjhawks wrote:



    adults playing video games :roll: :roll: :roll: - do you wear jerseys when you play?

    I only wear my Jerseys on game days and my Fantasy Draft

    :D
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited August 2011
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    i just appreciate the irony here.

    you love andy reid so much and always talk about how great he is and how underappreciated he is…yet he, according to you, repeatedly goes with quarterbacks who are preventing the eagles from winning a super bowl.

    so, therefore, you must enjoy not winning super bowls :lol: ….obviously i’m kidding. that dynamic is just funny to me

    I thought mcnabb would win one up utnil the arizona game. once the eagles got the ball, 2 mins left, down 7...I knew the game was over. reid probably kept him one year too long, but he saw the light as well. vick is the first qb that reid has gone with that I have disagreed with.

    reid is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise. by far

    jim johnson, brian dawkins and the defense (oh and david akers, forgot him) cost them that game. eagles had the lead and they let the cardinals go down the field and waste almost 9 minutes to take the lead. and curtis was interfered with on the last play. it wasn't mcnabb's fault. blaming mcnabb because of one drive is like blaming one player for one strikeout in the last at-bat....oh wait :roll: :roll: :roll:

    dude, mcnabb left about 40 points on the field in the first half of that game. he was terrible in most of the first half and at the end (as he always was).

    Haley abused jim johnson, but mcnabb sucked as well. and akers...yeah, good riddance choker

    EDIT: and I have never, not once ripped howard for striking out in game 6. My issue is that he strikes out all the time and sucks in general
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    i just appreciate the irony here.

    you love andy reid so much and always talk about how great he is and how underappreciated he is…yet he, according to you, repeatedly goes with quarterbacks who are preventing the eagles from winning a super bowl.

    so, therefore, you must enjoy not winning super bowls :lol: ….obviously i’m kidding. that dynamic is just funny to me

    I thought mcnabb would win one up utnil the arizona game. once the eagles got the ball, 2 mins left, down 7...I knew the game was over. reid probably kept him one year too long, but he saw the light as well. vick is the first qb that reid has gone with that I have disagreed with.

    reid is the best thing to ever happen to this franchise. by far

    Reid is no doubt just cant believe how thread bare he has left the O-Line

    Vick can get out of the way most time but he's gonna take a pounding

    The line hasn't started together as a unit and that's scary with 2 rookies on the line

    we'll see how it goes. new line coach as well. they might start slow but they will come on.

    I woldn't call the line bare. they have 2 RTs hurt. that's the main problem here. hopefully the two rookies become good players. they addressed the line problems they had last year. we'll see how it works
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited August 2011
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:



    adults playing video games :roll: :roll: :roll: - do you wear jerseys when you play?

    I only wear my Jerseys on game days and my Fantasy Draft

    :D


    ...i should add i haven't played madded since i was laid off and unemployed for a bit in 2008. sadly, it was then when i realized the game had passed me by. :x
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    pretty sure he'd give you a better option than what pjhawks said. his response is reminiscent of being back in college and playing that game drunk as hell at 3 in the morning. ALL PASSES, ALL THE TIME. YEAH! :mrgreen:

    90% of mccoy's big runs are draw plays and quick hitters based off the passing game. he doesn't gain his yards when we pound it into the line. have you seen this team try to gain a yard on 3rd and 4th and 1 in the last few years? apparantly not.

    90% huh? wow. that is a lot.

    i'm guessing you were an "all streaks" kind of guy back in the day right? :mrgreen:
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:

    pretty sure he'd give you a better option than what pjhawks said. his response is reminiscent of being back in college and playing that game drunk as hell at 3 in the morning. ALL PASSES, ALL THE TIME. YEAH! :mrgreen:

    90% of mccoy's big runs are draw plays and quick hitters based off the passing game. he doesn't gain his yards when we pound it into the line. have you seen this team try to gain a yard on 3rd and 4th and 1 in the last few years? apparantly not.

    90% huh? wow. that is a lot.

    i'm guessing you were an "all streaks" kind of guy back in the day right? :mrgreen:

    jaegs who is the last primary running team to win the super bowl? and who is the last hall of fame level running back to win a super bowl?

    i'm sure you are going to say pittsburgh but their last 2 super bowl MVPs have been wide receivers.

    only the Ravens and they had the greatest defense of all time and that was 10 years ago.

    the last super bowl mvp to be a running back was in 1998 with Terrell Davis.

    and the last Hall of Fame level running back to win a Super Bowl on a rushing team was Emmitt Smith.

    there is a reason why the best quarterbacks win and it ain't because they hand the ball off into the line. if you have a very good to great quarterback and great receivers running the ball on a consistent basis is just wasted plays. stop living in the 80s and 90s.
  • The Fixer
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    marshall faulk
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Fixer wrote:
    marshall faulk

    saw that and edited my comment above. marshall faulk was on a passing team. fastest team on turf wasn't because of 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

    75% to 25% or 80% to 20% works for me passes to runs if you have a team with a very good qb and great receivers, like the eagles do.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    90% of mccoy's big runs are draw plays and quick hitters based off the passing game. he doesn't gain his yards when we pound it into the line. have you seen this team try to gain a yard on 3rd and 4th and 1 in the last few years? apparantly not.

    90% huh? wow. that is a lot.

    i'm guessing you were an "all streaks" kind of guy back in the day right? :mrgreen:

    jaegs who is the last primary running team to win the super bowl? and who is the last hall of fame level running back to win a super bowl?

    i'm sure you are going to say pittsburgh but their last 2 super bowl MVPs have been wide receivers.

    only the Ravens and they had the greatest defense of all time and that was 10 years ago.

    the last super bowl mvp to be a running back was in 1998 with Terrell Davis.

    and the last Hall of Fame level running back to win a Super Bowl on a rushing team was Emmitt Smith.

    there is a reason why the best quarterbacks win and it ain't because they hand the ball off into the line. if you have a very good to great quarterback and great receivers running the ball on a consistent basis is just wasted plays. stop living in the 80s and 90s.

    if you think i'm suggesting that the eagles start running it 60% of the time, you're an idiot and have completely missed the point. i'm sorry to be so blunt. but good god...

    re-read your last paragraph because that is essentially what we're talking about here. the point of this discussion was what to do when you DO NOT have a quarterback playing at a "great" level. i remember you and others pointing out that vick was clearly not playing well down the stretch last year. when that happens, it's up to the coaching staff to "put him in a better position to make plays." see what i did there? ;) ...actually, no. you probably didn't. :lol:
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  • The Juggler
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    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    marshall faulk

    saw that and edited my comment above. marshall faulk was on a passing team. fastest team on turf wasn't because of 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

    75% to 25% or 80% to 20% works for me passes to runs if you have a team with a very good qb and great receivers, like the eagles do.


    wait....you want to pass the ball 80% of the time? what? :crazy: that's andy reid's offense on steroids and hgh and any other performance enhancing drug you can imagine. what are you talking about?

    you're not qualified to post in this thread. please stop.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    edited August 2011
    The Juggler wrote:
    if you think i'm suggesting that the eagles start running it 60% of the time, you're an idiot and have completely missed the point. i'm sorry to be so blunt. but good god...

    re-read your last paragraph because that is essentially what we're talking about here. the point of this discussion was what to do when you DO NOT have a quarterback playing at a "great" level. i remember you and others pointing out that vick was clearly not playing well down the stretch last year. when that happens, it's up to the coaching staff to "put him in a better position to make plays." see what i did there? ;) ...actually, no. you probably didn't. :lol:


    and how is handing the ball off giving mick vick a chance to make plays? he makes plays with his feet and occassionally his arm. best chance to win when you're team is struggling is for your best players to make plays. our best players are Vick, Jackson, Maclin and McCoy - how do they make plays? in the passing game and return game. SEE THE GIANTS GAME FOR A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SAID SCENERIO!!!

    next....
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  • The Fixer
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    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    marshall faulk

    saw that and edited my comment above. marshall faulk was on a passing team. fastest team on turf wasn't because of 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

    75% to 25% or 80% to 20% works for me passes to runs if you have a team with a very good qb and great receivers, like the eagles do.

    those rams offenses were insane. they could beat you so many different ways. still cant believe NE beat them

    you are right though...it's a QB league these days. pretty crazy that faulk is only one from last decade. edge would prob be next, but I don't think he is HOF caliber.

    tiki retired the year before the giants beat the pats right? don't think he was on that team
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