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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    No way Reid goes anywhere unless he is the absolute reason for them not being prepared. The way this team regrouped this offseason and put together this roster, he just bought himself another few years. At the least.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    I don't buy it. The birds still have one of the youngest teams in football. Reid built the team. I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon.

    Think about it...if this team misses playoffs it will most likely be due to injuries. I can't see Reid being let go off of a season like that. After 2013...that's a different story.

    The NFC is loaded this year. PHilly, GB, ATL, NO are all SB contenders going into the year. detroit, dallas, chic, stl, ariz, tb could all challenge for a playoff spot.

    my off the wall prediction this year is the ginas finishing in last place in division and coughlin getting canned around thanksgiving
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    I don't buy it. The birds still have one of the youngest teams in football. Reid built the team. I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon.

    Think about it...if this team misses playoffs it will most likely be due to injuries. I can't see Reid being let go off of a season like that. After 2013...that's a different story.

    The NFC is loaded this year. PHilly, GB, ATL, NO are all SB contenders going into the year. detroit, dallas, chic, stl, ariz, tb could all challenge for a playoff spot.

    my off the wall prediction this year is the ginas finishing in last place in division and coughlin getting canned around thanksgiving

    actually they're one of the oldest teams in the league after all the moves they've made.

    jp--that was my point. if they are healthy and don't make it (primarily due to reid's hand picked qb regressing or his offensive line coach turned defensive coordinator failing miserably) reid's gonna share the bulk of the responsibility. i said it's unlikely. very unlikely. too much talent for it to happen like that.

    the nfc is about as loaded as it was last year if you think about it. there were two 10-6 teams that didn't even get in last year. probably will be about the same this year. the birds, flaws aside, should be at the top of the heap.

    the goal is the super bowl gentlemen. expectations are as high as they've been since '04. giddy the fuck up. :mrgreen:
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    I don't buy it. The birds still have one of the youngest teams in football. Reid built the team. I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon.

    Think about it...if this team misses playoffs it will most likely be due to injuries. I can't see Reid being let go off of a season like that. After 2013...that's a different story.

    The NFC is loaded this year. PHilly, GB, ATL, NO are all SB contenders going into the year. detroit, dallas, chic, stl, ariz, tb could all challenge for a playoff spot.

    my off the wall prediction this year is the ginas finishing in last place in division and coughlin getting canned around thanksgiving

    actually they're one of the oldest teams in the league after all the moves they've made.

    jp--that was my point. if they are healthy and don't make it (primarily due to reid's hand picked qb regressing or his offensive line coach turned defensive coordinator failing miserably) reid's gonna share the bulk of the responsibility. i said it's unlikely. very unlikely. too much talent for it to happen like that.

    the nfc is about as loaded as it was last year if you think about it. there were two 10-6 teams that didn't even get in last year. probably will be about the same this year. the birds, flaws aside, should be at the top of the heap.

    the goal is the super bowl gentlemen. expectations are as high as they've been since '04. giddy the fuck up. :mrgreen:

    i don't think it will or should happen but if this team fails this year i can see reid being shown the door. remember the media and the clueless fan base already dislikes the guy so if this team struggles the outcry from the media and said clueless fan base is going to be outrageous. hell in winning seasons including last years over half the fans (including many on here) were calling for reid's head. with the so-called 'all-in' mentality that the media has labeled this Eagles team someone is going to take a huge hit should this team fail to make a legitimate run.

    either way let's hope they make that run, although as i stated above i'm not sensing it - hope i'm wrong. and frankly i'm a little bewildered at the notion that this is their most talented team. still see holes. 2004 was way more talented and balanced in the talent than this team.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    hopefully they have a good year and we don't have to worry about this reid nonsense. they have some issues, but I think they will get them straightened out. Reid teams always get stronger as the year goes on. with the new systems and coaches they are implementing this team could start slow, but as long as they are healthy they will be there at the end of the year.

    philly sports are crazy right now. can't wait for phils playoffs, eagles season, and flyers season. lots of intrigue around here these days
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Ha. Check this out - of the 17-18 mil Vick is getting this year, he's taking home only about 1.5 mil.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,412
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Ha. Check this out - of the 17-18 mil Vick is getting this year, he's taking home only about 1.5 mil.
    Fines from his conviction?
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Ha. Check this out - of the 17-18 mil Vick is getting this year, he's taking home only about 1.5 mil.
    Fines from his conviction?

    Creditors, lawyers, ex-girlfriend, mom, etc. etc. etc. So, to answer your question - yes.

    He would be out of debt by 2014. Crazy.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Ha. Check this out - of the 17-18 mil Vick is getting this year, he's taking home only about 1.5 mil.
    Fines from his conviction?

    Creditors, lawyers, ex-girlfriend, mom, etc. etc. etc. So, to answer your question - yes.

    He would be out of debt by 2014. Crazy.

    that's awesome. hate to sound like a dick, but that news makes me happy

    vick is still a douche
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    I don't buy it. The birds still have one of the youngest teams in football. Reid built the team. I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon.

    Think about it...if this team misses playoffs it will most likely be due to injuries. I can't see Reid being let go off of a season like that. After 2013...that's a different story.

    The NFC is loaded this year. PHilly, GB, ATL, NO are all SB contenders going into the year. detroit, dallas, chic, stl, ariz, tb could all challenge for a playoff spot.

    my off the wall prediction this year is the ginas finishing in last place in division and coughlin getting canned around thanksgiving

    actually they're one of the oldest teams in the league after all the moves they've made.

    jp--that was my point. if they are healthy and don't make it (primarily due to reid's hand picked qb regressing or his offensive line coach turned defensive coordinator failing miserably) reid's gonna share the bulk of the responsibility. i said it's unlikely. very unlikely. too much talent for it to happen like that.

    the nfc is about as loaded as it was last year if you think about it. there were two 10-6 teams that didn't even get in last year. probably will be about the same this year. the birds, flaws aside, should be at the top of the heap.

    the goal is the super bowl gentlemen. expectations are as high as they've been since '04. giddy the fuck up. :mrgreen:

    i don't think it will or should happen but if this team fails this year i can see reid being shown the door. remember the media and the clueless fan base already dislikes the guy so if this team struggles the outcry from the media and said clueless fan base is going to be outrageous. hell in winning seasons including last years over half the fans (including many on here) were calling for reid's head. with the so-called 'all-in' mentality that the media has labeled this Eagles team someone is going to take a huge hit should this team fail to make a legitimate run.

    either way let's hope they make that run, although as i stated above i'm not sensing it - hope i'm wrong. and frankly i'm a little bewildered at the notion that this is their most talented team. still see holes. 2004 was way more talented and balanced in the talent than this team.

    the eagles will never succomb to pressure from the fans. that is absurd.

    and there's no "so-called" all in mentality created by the media. joe banner said it himself. you'd know that if you were paying attention last month ;) . if this year falls apart and reid is fired, it will be banner, roseman, and lurie who made the decision. it will have zero, absolutely nothing, to do with the fans and media.

    most talented team since 2004 is what i said. don't recall anyone saying most talented team ever.

    super bowl is the goal.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    hopefully they have a good year and we don't have to worry about this reid nonsense. they have some issues, but I think they will get them straightened out. Reid teams always get stronger as the year goes on. with the new systems and coaches they are implementing this team could start slow, but as long as they are healthy they will be there at the end of the year.

    philly sports are crazy right now. can't wait for phils playoffs, eagles season, and flyers season. lots of intrigue around here these days

    i agree that it will take some time to get straightened out early on. i'd like to see the first team o line out there this week just so they can work on their cohesiveness.

    reid's teams fell apart down the stretch in each of the last two years. this year, i see them building as the year goes on.

    this fall is gonna be great. best time of year. :mrgreen:
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    hopefully they have a good year and we don't have to worry about this reid nonsense. they have some issues, but I think they will get them straightened out. Reid teams always get stronger as the year goes on. with the new systems and coaches they are implementing this team could start slow, but as long as they are healthy they will be there at the end of the year.

    philly sports are crazy right now. can't wait for phils playoffs, eagles season, and flyers season. lots of intrigue around here these days

    i agree that it will take some time to get straightened out early on. i'd like to see the first team o line out there this week just so they can work on their cohesiveness.

    reid's teams fell apart down the stretch in each of the last two years. this year, i see them building as the year goes on.

    this fall is gonna be great. best time of year. :mrgreen:

    honestly I think it was great coaching that even got them to the playoffs the last two years (both of those birds defenses were horrendous). then reid put them in position to beat the SB champs last year until the QB choked the game away (deja vu)

    I agree that this time of year is the best. Doesn't get any better than sports in october. And it looks like the awful heat and humidity are finally gone. Love it
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    hopefully they have a good year and we don't have to worry about this reid nonsense. they have some issues, but I think they will get them straightened out. Reid teams always get stronger as the year goes on. with the new systems and coaches they are implementing this team could start slow, but as long as they are healthy they will be there at the end of the year.

    philly sports are crazy right now. can't wait for phils playoffs, eagles season, and flyers season. lots of intrigue around here these days

    i agree that it will take some time to get straightened out early on. i'd like to see the first team o line out there this week just so they can work on their cohesiveness.

    reid's teams fell apart down the stretch in each of the last two years. this year, i see them building as the year goes on.

    this fall is gonna be great. best time of year. :mrgreen:

    honestly I think it was great coaching that even got them to the playoffs the last two years (both of those birds defenses were horrendous). then reid put them in position to beat the SB champs last year until the QB choked the game away.

    I agree that this time of year is the best. Doesn't get any better than sports in october. And it looks like the awful heat and humidity are finally gone. Love it

    great coaching? what, in october? as i've stated numerous times, i think it was poor coaching that cost them a first round bye last year.

    they fell apart down the stretch the last two years despite great coaching. right on :thumbup:

    actually--only 2 times they have came on strong down the stretch since 04 ('06 and '08) it was the defense leading the way.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:
    great coaching? what, in october? as i've stated numerous times, i think it was poor coaching that cost them a first round bye last year.

    they fell apart down the stretch the last two years despite great coaching. right on :thumbup:

    actually--only 2 times they have came on strong down the stretch since 04 ('06 and '08) it was the defense leading the way.

    my point is that the last two years the eagles have not been playoff caliber teams based on talent. coaching is what got them to the playoffs.

    vick was HORRENDOUS vs minnesota last year. I think the vikings dropped 10 picks that game. And his fumble (after he ran around in the backfield for 5 minutes as always) resulted in a minn TD (I guess the fumble was reids fault).

    no one wants to blame vick. the dude just isn't that good of a QB. he's an incredible athlete playing the wrong position. only thing I blame reid for is failing to realize this and trading away the wrong QB
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
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    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    great coaching? what, in october? as i've stated numerous times, i think it was poor coaching that cost them a first round bye last year.

    they fell apart down the stretch the last two years despite great coaching. right on :thumbup:

    actually--only 2 times they have came on strong down the stretch since 04 ('06 and '08) it was the defense leading the way.

    my point is that the last two years the eagles have not been playoff caliber teams based on talent. coaching is what got them to the playoffs.

    vick was HORRENDOUS vs minnesota last year. I think the vikings dropped 10 picks that game. And his fumble (after he ran around in the backfield for 5 minutes as always) resulted in a minn TD (I guess the fumble was reids fault).

    no one wants to blame vick. the dude just isn't that good of a QB. he's an incredible athlete playing the wrong position. only thing I blame reid for is failing to realize this and trading away the wrong QB

    i completely disagree with you about the last two years. they absolutely were playoff caliber teams each year. not super bowl caliber but playoff caliber- no doubt. once vick was given the nod their expectactions changed dramatically.

    the whole team was horrendous against minnesota. no excuse for them to come out that flat against a bad team with so much riding on it. that was essentially a playoff game for the birds and they did not show up. and if your qb is going bad, like he was, run the god damn ball!

    oh, so the "only" thing you blame reid for is, in your opinion, completely screwing up the most important position in all of sports. :lol: obviously i disagree with you. but i just find it funny how you worship at the dude's altar despite this incredibly huge issue. seriously man. if you think vick is a garbage qb, you should hate andy reid for putting all his chips in vick's corner. i mean it's not like he went with a different outside linebacker than you liked. he literally changed the direction that the entire franchise was headed with vick at the helm.

    i think he's good coach, not a great one. he makes the same mistakes he made in 1999. but i'm not one of those people who says "the eagles will never win a super bowl with andy reid... yada yada." despite some holes, this team has the talent to make a deep run this year. can't wait for the season to get going :mrgreen:
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  • The Juggler
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    looks like maclin's going to play in week 1. that is great news. hopefully smith is able to play early on too and not get put on the pup list.

    so many weapons.


    huge if, obviously, but if the o line pans out--this offense should put up unbelievable amount of points this year...
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  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    The Juggler wrote:
    looks like maclin's going to play in week 1. that is great news.

    Shit I passed on him in a late round yesterday... You gettin pumped for the season or what?

    I realize I just scheduled an appt first thing Monday morning(12th) and the cowboys play late Sunday! I'm gonna be a hurtin sob at work! Haha
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    crazypjfan wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    looks like maclin's going to play in week 1. that is great news.

    Shit I passed on him in a late round yesterday... You gettin pumped for the season or what?

    I realize I just scheduled an appt first thing Monday morning(12th) and the cowboys play late Sunday! I'm gonna be a hurtin sob at work! Haha


    that's an amateur move! haha

    yeah i am getting pretty excited. my fantasy draft is tomorrow night. gonna be in full on football mode after that
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  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    The Juggler wrote:
    crazypjfan wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    looks like maclin's going to play in week 1. that is great news.

    Shit I passed on him in a late round yesterday... You gettin pumped for the season or what?

    I realize I just scheduled an appt first thing Monday morning(12th) and the cowboys play late Sunday! I'm gonna be a hurtin sob at work! Haha


    that's an amateur move! haha

    yeah i am getting pretty excited. my fantasy draft is tomorrow night. gonna be in full on football mode after that

    Nice. Good luck! I have another one tomorrow night as well. I love it!
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    great coaching? what, in october? as i've stated numerous times, i think it was poor coaching that cost them a first round bye last year.

    they fell apart down the stretch the last two years despite great coaching. right on :thumbup:

    actually--only 2 times they have came on strong down the stretch since 04 ('06 and '08) it was the defense leading the way.

    my point is that the last two years the eagles have not been playoff caliber teams based on talent. coaching is what got them to the playoffs.

    vick was HORRENDOUS vs minnesota last year. I think the vikings dropped 10 picks that game. And his fumble (after he ran around in the backfield for 5 minutes as always) resulted in a minn TD (I guess the fumble was reids fault).

    no one wants to blame vick. the dude just isn't that good of a QB. he's an incredible athlete playing the wrong position. only thing I blame reid for is failing to realize this and trading away the wrong QB

    i completely disagree with you about the last two years. they absolutely were playoff caliber teams each year. not super bowl caliber but playoff caliber- no doubt. once vick was given the nod their expectactions changed dramatically.

    the whole team was horrendous against minnesota. no excuse for them to come out that flat against a bad team with so much riding on it. that was essentially a playoff game for the birds and they did not show up. and if your qb is going bad, like he was, run the god damn ball!

    oh, so the "only" thing you blame reid for is, in your opinion, completely screwing up the most important position in all of sports. :lol: obviously i disagree with you. but i just find it funny how you worship at the dude's altar despite this incredibly huge issue. seriously man. if you think vick is a garbage qb, you should hate andy reid for putting all his chips in vick's corner. i mean it's not like he went with a different outside linebacker than you liked. he literally changed the direction that the entire franchise was headed with vick at the helm.

    i think he's good coach, not a great one. he makes the same mistakes he made in 1999. but i'm not one of those people who says "the eagles will never win a super bowl with andy reid... yada yada." despite some holes, this team has the talent to make a deep run this year. can't wait for the season to get going :mrgreen:

    look at how many TD passes the eagles have allowed the last two years. without reid they are the texans

    reid shit the bed on the QB thing. I will call him out when I disagree with him...and I certainly do in this regard

    vick isn't garbage, he's just not smart enough or well rounded enough as a player to lead a team to a SB win IMO

    we're going in circles. you like vick more than I do and i like reid more than you do. like you said, they are tied at the hip now, so their success correlates. I hope vick proves me wrong. should be a fun season
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