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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    should be an interesting week for sure

    kinda funny that they are starting camp without knowing who's gonna be on the team
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Fixer wrote:
    should be an interesting week for sure

    kinda funny that they are starting camp without knowing who's gonna be on the team
    Danny Watkins needs to get signed and in there asap.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    jamminpearls wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    should be an interesting week for sure

    kinda funny that they are starting camp without knowing who's gonna be on the team
    Danny Watkins needs to get signed and in there asap.

    agreed. i think it's even more important for jarrett....should be a little easier for a guard to come in without all the ota's than it is for a saftey. we're gonna have some pretty young safties back there...
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    should be an interesting week for sure

    kinda funny that they are starting camp without knowing who's gonna be on the team
    Danny Watkins needs to get signed and in there asap.

    agreed. i think it's even more important for jarrett....should be a little easier for a guard to come in without all the ota's than it is for a saftey. we're gonna have some pretty young safties back there...

    and hopefully a new CB. could be messy in the secondary (again) for the first half of the year. esp with the new system that they are talking about implementing.

    I don't think watkins will take long to sign. He was picked earlier than expected. Hes gonna get more money than he was expecting at the draft
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    i'd be shocked if drc isn't on our roster by noon tomorrow
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  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    The Juggler wrote:
    i'd be shocked if drc isn't on our roster by noon tomorrow

    All signs point toward that happening from what I have read.

    The next week or two will be awesome! We had to wait a while for the new CBA but everything will happen all at once and I'm excited!

    Go Cowboys!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    crazypjfan wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    i'd be shocked if drc isn't on our roster by noon tomorrow

    All signs point toward that happening from what I have read.

    The next week or two will be awesome! We had to wait a while for the new CBA but everything will happen all at once and I'm excited!

    Go Cowboys!

    it's gonna be fun man.

    yeah they basically had a deal in place during that one or two day period around the draft when teams were allowed to talk to each other. plus everything else the eagles do depends on what they get in return.
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  • The Fixer
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    It better be more than just DRC. I don't think you trade a top 20 QB for a starting CB. Seems pretty lopsided to me
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    The Fixer wrote:
    It better be more than just DRC. I don't think you trade a top 20 QB for a starting CB. Seems pretty lopsided to me

    ...top 20 :lol:

    be nice to get a 3rd rounder. probably would have been easier to get that around draft time though.

    drc, while not the protype corner i would prefer, represents a huge improvement over the slop we had at that position last year. he's still young and has a nice upside. it doesn't seem too lopsided to me, all things considered.
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    It better be more than just DRC. I don't think you trade a top 20 QB for a starting CB. Seems pretty lopsided to me

    ...top 20 :lol:

    be nice to get a 3rd rounder. probably would have been easier to get that around draft time though.

    drc, while not the protype corner i would prefer, represents a huge improvement over the slop we had at that position last year. he's still young and has a nice upside. it doesn't seem too lopsided to me, all things considered.
    Not my 1st choice either but i believe he'll be more then fine. When Ariz didn't suck he was damn good,i think he didn't care as much last year because they blew.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Juggler
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    jamminpearls wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    It better be more than just DRC. I don't think you trade a top 20 QB for a starting CB. Seems pretty lopsided to me

    ...top 20 :lol:

    be nice to get a 3rd rounder. probably would have been easier to get that around draft time though.

    drc, while not the protype corner i would prefer, represents a huge improvement over the slop we had at that position last year. he's still young and has a nice upside. it doesn't seem too lopsided to me, all things considered.
    Not my 1st choice either but i believe he'll be more then fine. When Ariz didn't suck he was damn good,i think he didn't care as much last year because they blew.[/quote]

    ..that's not really a trait you look for in a player :lol: ....i think it's true though. luckily the expectations for the birds are pretty, pretty high this year.
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  • The Fixer
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    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    It better be more than just DRC. I don't think you trade a top 20 QB for a starting CB. Seems pretty lopsided to me

    ...top 20 :lol:

    be nice to get a 3rd rounder. probably would have been easier to get that around draft time though.

    drc, while not the protype corner i would prefer, represents a huge improvement over the slop we had at that position last year. he's still young and has a nice upside. it doesn't seem too lopsided to me, all things considered.

    I think you'd be hard pressed to find 20 better QBs. Think about it

    given:
    romo
    manning
    manning
    roethlisberger
    rodgers
    brees
    vick
    brady
    cutler
    ryan
    flacco
    rivers
    schaub

    debateable:
    bradford
    sanchez
    stafford

    this is off top of my head so I'm probably missing some. my point is that there arent many good qbs in the NFL. kolb is in or close to the top 20. they shoudl get more than a CB that pees sitting down for him
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    It better be more than just DRC. I don't think you trade a top 20 QB for a starting CB. Seems pretty lopsided to me

    ...top 20 :lol:

    be nice to get a 3rd rounder. probably would have been easier to get that around draft time though.

    drc, while not the protype corner i would prefer, represents a huge improvement over the slop we had at that position last year. he's still young and has a nice upside. it doesn't seem too lopsided to me, all things considered.

    I think you'd be hard pressed to find 20 better QBs. Think about it

    given:
    romo
    manning
    manning
    roethlisberger
    rodgers
    brees
    vick
    brady
    cutler
    ryan
    flacco
    rivers
    schaub

    debateable:
    bradford
    sanchez
    stafford

    this is off top of my head so I'm probably missing some. my point is that there arent many good qbs in the NFL. kolb is in or close to the top 20. they shoudl get more than a CB that pees sitting down for him

    no i agree. he might be in upper echelon of lower tier qb's. i just think you might be overvaluing him. top 20 of 32 teams isn't a big compliment, especially if you think the talent level is low (which i disagree with).

    but the bottom line is, he's had a few good games against sub par defenses. he also has thrown 11 touchdowns and turned the ball over 21 times and has a career 73% qb rating----lump that in with the fact the cards know we have to trade him or risk losing him for nothing and that makes me think it's not a bad deal. drc isn't some chump. he's a quality shut down corner.
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Like i said he's not my 1st choice,but i find it hard to believe anyone here has actually watched him on a consistent basis. There's no reason why he shouldn't come in here and be successful. I think he'll be alot better then Fixer thinks.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Like i said he's not my 1st choice,but i find it hard to believe anyone here has actually watched him on a consistent basis. There's no reason why he shouldn't come in here and be successful. I think he'll be alot better then Fixer thinks.

    dimitri peterson started at righ corner for us in the playoffs last year. that's all you gotta know.


    ...i just wish we had someone other than juan castillo coaching these guys
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Juggler wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Like i said he's not my 1st choice,but i find it hard to believe anyone here has actually watched him on a consistent basis. There's no reason why he shouldn't come in here and be successful. I think he'll be alot better then Fixer thinks.

    dimitri peterson started at righ corner for us in the playoffs last year. that's all you gotta know.


    ...i just wish we had someone other than juan castillo coaching these guys
    The dude from GB was a fire cracker,wish he got to interview.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler wrote:
    no i agree. he might be in upper echelon of lower tier qb's. i just think you might be overvaluing him. top 20 of 32 teams isn't a big compliment, especially if you think the talent level is low (which i disagree with).

    but the bottom line is, he's had a few good games against sub par defenses. he also has thrown 11 touchdowns and turned the ball over 21 times and has a career 73% qb rating----lump that in with the fact the cards know we have to trade him or risk losing him for nothing and that makes me think it's not a bad deal. drc isn't some chump. he's a quality shut down corner.

    so you laughed when I said top 20, then you say you agree. ???

    he's already top 20. kind of an unproven commodity since he hasn't had a real chance to play every week yet. there are plenty of teams that need a QB. DRC is a solid starter, but you don't trade QBs for CBs. They should be able to get more

    kolb beat atlanta last year. they were better than any team vick beat. I think you underrated him. then again, you were scared of having mcnabb in the division last year, so you're not exactly andy reid when it comes to QB evaluation
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited July 2011
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Like i said he's not my 1st choice,but i find it hard to believe anyone here has actually watched him on a consistent basis. There's no reason why he shouldn't come in here and be successful. I think he'll be alot better then Fixer thinks.

    all I do is watch football on the weekends (college and NFL). I will admit that I now watch more Red Zone than games on sunday if I'm not at my buddy's where there are 7-8 NFL games on at once.

    I have seen him play plenty. He is one of the most athletic guys in the league. Makes samuel look like andre waters though. they need a CB. I'm fine with him being part of a deal, but I don't like a straight up trade
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    no i agree. he might be in upper echelon of lower tier qb's. i just think you might be overvaluing him. top 20 of 32 teams isn't a big compliment, especially if you think the talent level is low (which i disagree with).

    but the bottom line is, he's had a few good games against sub par defenses. he also has thrown 11 touchdowns and turned the ball over 21 times and has a career 73% qb rating----lump that in with the fact the cards know we have to trade him or risk losing him for nothing and that makes me think it's not a bad deal. drc isn't some chump. he's a quality shut down corner.

    so you laughed when I said top 20, then you say you agree. ???

    he's already top 20. kind of an unproven commodity since he hasn't had a real chance to play every week yet. there are plenty of teams that need a QB. DRC is a solid starter, but you don't trade QBs for CBs. They should be able to get more

    kolb beat atlanta last year. they were better than any team vick beat. I think you underrated him. then again, you were scared of having mcnabb in the division last year, so you're not exactly andy reid when it comes to QB evaluation
    Remember if Reid got a 3rd pick last year Vick was gone. It's not like he was some genius and thought Vick was good. He fell into his lap after Reid's starter got hurt.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    jamminpearls wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    no i agree. he might be in upper echelon of lower tier qb's. i just think you might be overvaluing him. top 20 of 32 teams isn't a big compliment, especially if you think the talent level is low (which i disagree with).

    but the bottom line is, he's had a few good games against sub par defenses. he also has thrown 11 touchdowns and turned the ball over 21 times and has a career 73% qb rating----lump that in with the fact the cards know we have to trade him or risk losing him for nothing and that makes me think it's not a bad deal. drc isn't some chump. he's a quality shut down corner.

    so you laughed when I said top 20, then you say you agree. ???

    he's already top 20. kind of an unproven commodity since he hasn't had a real chance to play every week yet. there are plenty of teams that need a QB. DRC is a solid starter, but you don't trade QBs for CBs. They should be able to get more

    kolb beat atlanta last year. they were better than any team vick beat. I think you underrated him. then again, you were scared of having mcnabb in the division last year, so you're not exactly andy reid when it comes to QB evaluation
    Remember if Reid got a 3rd pick last year Vick was gone. It's not like he was some genius and thought Vick was good. He fell into his lap after Reid's starter got hurt.

    dude vick played the 2nd half of the first game and started every other game that he was healthy. he wasn't going anywhere.
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