Project #10 - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live

tremors wrote:

electricxlovex wrote:

bonus section :
someone suggested using stuff from Eddie's solo gig in Rome

I haven't listened to this one, familiar with it but never got round to listen so i don't have an opinion on it other than it's just Eddie and not the whole band

We don't want to be sharing EV solo stuff - it goes against the band's policy

Well, you know, it's not like a solo tour or anything. Hence why I don't know whether it's ok or not really.

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

electricxlovex wrote:

bonus section :
someone suggested using stuff from Eddie's solo gig in Rome

I haven't listened to this one, familiar with it but never got round to listen so i don't have an opinion on it other than it's just Eddie and not the whole band

We don't want to be sharing EV solo stuff - it goes against the band's policy

Well, you know, it's not like a solo tour or anything. Hence why I don't know whether it's ok or not really.

I'm not sure it makes any difference - Eddie has said he doesn't want his solo stuff recorded. Anyway, that's my understanding. Pj have a pretty open taping and sharing policy, that's quite unusual - so we are on safe ground sticking with that

tremors wrote:

I'm going to bed in a minute - but my thoughts for the ROugh Draft which Cameron4President is pulling together are:

We switch Hail Hail Seattle to Hamburg
We switch Habit to whatever electricxlovex and myra settle on

We leave the bonus section as it is for now, and come back to it


How does that sound?

Sounds good :thumbup:

I've yet to decide on the best Habit, myra liked two really good ones but I'm still a bit unsure
Yeah, It looks as though we are going to have to leave the bonus section as it is and see if we can add anything later on.

myra wrote:

electricxlovex wrote:

tremors wrote:

I'm going to bed in a minute - but my thoughts for the ROugh Draft which Cameron4President is pulling together are:

We switch Hail Hail Seattle to Hamburg
We switch Habit to whatever electricxlovex and myra settle on

We leave the bonus section as it is for now, and come back to it


How does that sound?

Sounds good :thumbup:

I've yet to decide on the best Habit, myra liked two really good ones but I'm still a bit unsure
Yeah, It looks as though we are going to have to leave the bonus section as it is and see if we can add anything later on.

Re : Habit --> you go for it E.L. Habit has got to be one of the very few songs I like the studio release of way more than the live rendition.

Cool - see you all tomorrow. Some of us have class in the morning

myra wrote:

electricxlovex wrote:

tremors wrote:

I'm going to bed in a minute - but my thoughts for the ROugh Draft which Cameron4President is pulling together are:

We switch Hail Hail Seattle to Hamburg
We switch Habit to whatever electricxlovex and myra settle on

We leave the bonus section as it is for now, and come back to it


How does that sound?

Sounds good :thumbup:

I've yet to decide on the best Habit, myra liked two really good ones but I'm still a bit unsure
Yeah, It looks as though we are going to have to leave the bonus section as it is and see if we can add anything later on.

Re : Habit --> you go for it E.L. Habit has got to be one of the very few songs I like the studio release of way more than the live rendition.

Really? I think it's great live, the outro's tend to be so much more energetic and intense live than on the studio album. The energy is manic, it's great live.

I'm stuck between three ... which sucks because I love them all so much (Like you and SoLaT :roll: I can't choose!

Randall's Island, Toledo or North Charleston -
Randall's Island is just so fun, energetic and intense. It ends really fiercely and the whole "speaking as a child of a child" part is great
Toledo - better SQ, still as fierce - the outro (possibly because it's clearer) is killer! it's so intense, raw. Love it
North Charleston - again great SQ, outro isn't as clear or fierce IMO

okay so that leaves Randall's Island and Toledo
I'll go with

Toledo - because it is better SQ and we BOTH agree on it So yeah

Habit from Toledo please

electricxlovex wrote:

Really? I think it's great live, the outro's tend to be so much more energetic and intense live than on the studio album. The energy is manic, it's great live.

I'm stuck between three ... which sucks because I love them all so much (Like you and SoLaT :roll: I can't choose!

Randall's Island, Toledo or North Charleston -
Randall's Island is just so fun, energetic and intense. It ends really fiercely and the whole "speaking as a child of a child" part is great
Toledo - better SQ, still as fierce - the outro (possibly because it's clearer) is killer! it's so intense, raw. Love it
North Charleston - again great SQ, outro isn't as clear or fierce IMO

okay so that leaves Randall's Island and Toledo
I'll go with

Toledo - because it is better SQ and we BOTH agree on it So yeah

Habit from Toledo please

:thumbup:
And can we keep the ending, too ? Not the whole thing but, like, a good chunk of it ?

Mankind...

how about another kind?
I'm a bit unsure about the one we have - Just been listening to the Randall's Island boot (possibly my favourite 96 show)
and that one sounds fresher and better to my ears

eeeee, i don't want to be a pain in the ass, we can just leave it til after the rough draft and then see

electricxlovex wrote:

Dazzler wrote:

I thought this thread was done and dusted at around 4 pages!
Now I see we've jumped to 8! I'm really picky, but you guys are something else!!!

glad about the Hail, Hail choice being changed and much prefer the new choice.

Habit from Toledo is probably the best of what's available.

So it was worth all of your debating.

As for the small amount of bonus offerings etc.... Is (new) Jeremy from Randall's Island a horrible suggestion? It was the last time it was played, and it hasn't appeared on any of the other projects thus far

yes
myra definitely gets OCD about these things
joking of course, we all are a bit fussy

I am currently listening to the Randall's Island boot - fast becoming my favourite from 96. Simply great
I, personally, am not too sure about using Jeremy. While the new version is definitely cool and different, I just don't know about the whole mood of it and how it would blend with No Code and the other bonus tracks we have selected - the improvs and Leaving Here.

Jeremy ... now that's a song I sure won't get OCD over.
Yet this version is quite cool. But not exactly relevant to No Code, is it ?

Cameron4President wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

Project #10 - "Pearl Jam - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live" **Rough Draft**

Track List:

Sometimes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Hail, Hail - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
Who You Are - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
In My Tree - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
Smile - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
Off He Goes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Habit - Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996)
Red Mosquito - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Lukin - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
Present Tense - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Mankind - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
I'm Open - Barcelona, Spain (November 21, 1996)
Around The Bend - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 20, 1996)
Improv - Charleston, South Carolina (October 5, 1996)
Roadhouse Blues Improv - Paris, France (November 7, 1996)
Leaving Here - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)

Initial thoughts of the first draft are this:

-Smile needs to exit stage left 8-)

-Maybe we (I) should consider using Hail, Hail from Letterman. I know that a few of you suggested that and I said "let's try another version', but I was wrong and I miss the Letterman version

-I am in the minority on this, but I am not too disappointed with the 'bonus' section. I actually like it a lot It is what it is. I am not in favor of going outside of 1996 to solve the 'bonus' section situation. I think that we should see what works in '96 and if that doesn't have any good options then we could just go with one or two bonus tracks.

-One idea for a 'bonus' could be the Jack Irons intro.

We all agree on Smile. It needs to go. I seem to recall there were a few decent alternatives out there. I'll have a look tonight when I'm home.

Hail hail ? Really ?