Project #10 - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live

myra

tremors wrote:

Yeah Smile Portugal 2 I like a lot! Louder version, quite energetic, noisy crowd, but good atmosphere - cheering in the middle - 'Portugal, Portugal' chant at the end, which I always like, but we don't need to include. Good high energy cheerful version

I think it's better than Hamburg, and doesn't have the complication of being already known. The SQ is sounding fine through my hi fi speakers - but I've not heard on headphones

You're listening to Cascais 2, right ?
Listening to them all again.
For as much as I think that we need to change the current Smile, I think this version suffers from a very bad SQ, worse than Hamburg actually. Especially at the beginning, where we need it to be good. After a while, not so much, but that's probably because I get used to it.
I mean, we can try to change it in favor of Cascais 2 for Version 1, but I don't think it'll improve anything. I hope I'm wrong though, I do (as usual ) like the sing-along.

TheRealDanPatch

Dazzler wrote:

Possibility for extras, but don't really think they're needed....

This is exactly what I am thinking. If it came down to just 'Leaving Here' as a bonus, then I would be fine with that.

TheRealDanPatch

Dazzler wrote:

tremors wrote:

Yeah Smile Portugal 2 I like a lot! Louder version, quite energetic, noisy crowd, but good atmosphere - cheering in the middle - 'Portugal, Portugal' chant at the end, which I always like, but we don't need to include. Good high energy cheerful version

I think it's better than Hamburg, and doesn't have the complication of being already known. The SQ is sounding fine through my hi fi speakers - but I've not heard on headphones

Cool, are we closer to getting a version 1?
There's a chance i may be able to increase the volume of I'm Open, as I find it's a little quiet compared to the rest of the project.

I increased the volume quite a bit from the original. I afraid that anymore may cause distortion, but I will try for V1

TheRealDanPatch

BrainofBGA wrote:

Hey love the alternate covers!!! Binaural and Riot Act in particular!!!

Cameron4President wrote:

After a short break Myra, Tremors, Electricxlovex, and myself thought it was time to tackle the "No Code" album. "No Code" is the only studio album that the Projects team has not given the "live" treatment to, and we figured that we would save the best for last.


Here are some parameters that we would like to go by for this project:


-All songs must be from the 1996 Tour.

-We will add 3-4 bonus songs at the end, which will be covers/B-sides/Improvs from the 1996 Tour.

-Best SQ as possible.

-Repeat Shows and Venues will be allowed for this Project.

-No songs from the other Pearl Jam studio albums will be considered for bonus tracks.


Please feel free to use this thread to make suggestions and give us feedback as to what would be good to include on this new compilation (and what wouldn't be good). I will be updating the working track list for this project on the front page of this thread (right here). Our plan is to slowly start putting this together on Monday (April 18th) and have it completed and ready for download by or before next Saturday (April 23rd).

Please feel free to check out our other projects as well:

Project #1



Pearl Jam - Mixed Metaphor: Backspacer Live
http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... pacer.html


Project #2



Pearl Jam - Turpentine & Nepotism: Vs. Live
http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html


Project #3



Pearl Jam - Ten Live: Then and Now
Disc 1: http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... isc-1.html
Disc 2: http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... isc-2.html


Project #4



Pearl Jam - The Theory of Vitalogy
http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... alogy.html


Project #5



Pearl Jam - The Kids Are Alright: The Songs of The Who
http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... f-who.html


Project #6



Pearl Jam - Light Becomes Stars: Binaural Live
http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... aural.html


Project #7



Pearl Jam - Static Echoes: Yield Live
http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html


Project #8



Pearl Jam - The Whispers of War: Riot Act Live
http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html


Project #9



Pearl Jam - Break the Sky: Pearl Jam Live
http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html



Project #10 - "Pearl Jam - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live" **Version 1**

Track List:

Sometimes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Hail, Hail - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
Who You Are - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
In My Tree - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
Smile -
Off He Goes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Habit - Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996)
Red Mosquito - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Lukin - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
Present Tense - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Mankind - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
I'm Open - Barcelona, Spain (November 21, 1996)
Around The Bend - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 20, 1996)
Improv - Charleston, South Carolina (October 5, 1996)
Roadhouse Blues Improv - Paris, France (November 7, 1996)
Leaving Here - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)

**Projected Release/Download Date: April 23rd, 2011**

Thanks, Riot Act was my favorite cover to do

TheRealDanPatch

Going with Hartford.....

Project #10 - "Pearl Jam - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live" **Version 1**

Track List:

Sometimes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Hail, Hail - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
Who You Are - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
In My Tree - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Smile - What is the final verdict?
Off He Goes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Habit - Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996)
Red Mosquito - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Lukin - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
Present Tense - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Mankind - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
I'm Open - Barcelona, Spain (November 21, 1996)
Around The Bend - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 20, 1996)
Improv - Charleston, South Carolina (October 5, 1996)
Roadhouse Blues Improv - Paris, France (November 7, 1996)
Leaving Here - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)

Newch91

Cameron4President wrote:

Going with Hartford.....

Project #10 - "Pearl Jam - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live" **Version 1**

Track List:

Sometimes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Hail, Hail - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
Who You Are - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
In My Tree - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Smile - What is the final verdict?
Off He Goes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Habit - Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996)
Red Mosquito - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Lukin - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
Present Tense - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Mankind - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
I'm Open - Barcelona, Spain (November 21, 1996)
Around The Bend - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 20, 1996)
Improv - Charleston, South Carolina (October 5, 1996)
Roadhouse Blues Improv - Paris, France (November 7, 1996)
Leaving Here - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)

Sweet! Hartford kicking ass!

TheRealDanPatch

Are the changes correct so that we can proceed with Version 1?

-New 'Smile': Portugal 2?

-In My Tree: Hartford

-Up volume on I'm Open and put back the last 10-15 seconds


Somebody get me this info soon and I can send out V1. I would like to be able to shoot this out tonight. Next to days are way too busy for me, so the more I can do now the better.

PS. I am not keen on Barcelona 'Smile'. We have Been there, done that (ATS: NC Live).

myra

Cameron4President wrote:

Are the changes correct so that we can proceed with Version 1?

-New 'Smile': Portugal 2?

-In My Tree: Hartford

-Up volume on I'm Open and put back the last 10-15 seconds


Somebody get me this info soon and I can send out V1. I would like to be able to shoot this out tonight. Next to days are way too busy for me, so the more I can do now the better.

PS. I am not keen on Barcelona 'Smile'. We have Been there, done that (ATS: NC Live).

Re : Smile
I'd say change it to the Portugal 2 version and we'll figure from there. Anyway, the alternative is that of the Rough Draft (I guess :? ), so that'll make for an easy comparison (flow / SQ).

myra

Newch91 wrote:

Sweet! Hartford kicking ass!

Definitely beating Berlin now :shock:

TheRealDanPatch

myra wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Sweet! Hartford kicking ass!

Definitely beating Berlin now :shock:

I wish that they had played 'Smile' in Hartford.

TheRealDanPatch

myra wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

Are the changes correct so that we can proceed with Version 1?

-New 'Smile': Portugal 2?

-In My Tree: Hartford

-Up volume on I'm Open and put back the last 10-15 seconds


Somebody get me this info soon and I can send out V1. I would like to be able to shoot this out tonight. Next to days are way too busy for me, so the more I can do now the better.

PS. I am not keen on Barcelona 'Smile'. We have Been there, done that (ATS: NC Live).

Re : Smile
I'd say change it to the Portugal 2 version and we'll figure from there. Anyway, the alternative is that of the Rough Draft (I guess :? ), so that'll make for an easy comparison (flow / SQ).

I hate to be an asshole, but I think that at least Myra will agree with what I am about to say:

I fail to see how the Portugal 2 'Smile' is better than what we had on the 'rough draft'. SQ is sub par to what we had. This version is no good. :thumbdown:

myra

Cameron4President wrote:

I hate to be an asshole, but I think that at least Myra will agree with what I am about to say:

I fail to see how the Portugal 2 'Smile' is better than what we had on the 'rough draft'. SQ is sub par to what we had. This version is no good. :thumbdown:

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y ..... No, wait ----> E-X-A-C-T-L-Y :(

TheRealDanPatch

myra wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

I hate to be an asshole, but I think that at least Myra will agree with what I am about to say:

I fail to see how the Portugal 2 'Smile' is better than what we had on the 'rough draft'. SQ is sub par to what we had. This version is no good. :thumbdown:

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y ..... No, wait ----> E-X-A-C-T-L-Y :(

At this point it's my opinion that we use either what we have or go with London 2. Right now it's my opinion that we try London 2 in the mix and see how it sounds with the rest of the compilation.

TheRealDanPatch

Project #10 - "Pearl Jam - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live" **Version 1**

Track List:

Sometimes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Hail, Hail - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
Who You Are - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
In My Tree - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Smile - London, England (October 29, 1996)
Off He Goes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Habit - Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996)
Red Mosquito - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Lukin - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
Present Tense - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Mankind - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
I'm Open - Barcelona, Spain (November 21, 1996)
Around The Bend - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 20, 1996)
Improv - Charleston, South Carolina (October 5, 1996)
Roadhouse Blues Improv - Paris, France (November 7, 1996)
Leaving Here - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)

TheRealDanPatch

One more thing:

I personally do not mind if we load this project up with Hartford tracks. I mean we loaded the Vs. project up with Atlanta and everybody seemed to love that.

Newch91

Cameron4President wrote:

One more thing:

I personally do not mind if we load this project up with Hartford tracks. I mean we loaded the Vs. project up with Atlanta and everybody seemed to love that.

You know I'm going to be biased and agree with you.

myra

Newch91 wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

One more thing:

I personally do not mind if we load this project up with Hartford tracks. I mean we loaded the Vs. project up with Atlanta and everybody seemed to love that.

You know I'm going to be biased and agree with you.

I wish we could use more shows but there's only so much diversity we can afford with this project anyway ...

PilateOfTheStorm

Great! We finally picked an "In My Tree" - I'm happy Just had to get the Berlin one out, fast

I see that Smile is still causing a fuss - we could always keep the one we had and just lessen the volume slightly? Or there was a Portugal ?/Spanish one - not the one that's already used as the holiday single

I still love the bonus section - It's really really grown on me. the version of Leaving Here is killer

TheRealDanPatch

Cameron4President wrote:

Project #10 - "Pearl Jam - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live" **Version 1**

Track List:

Sometimes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Hail, Hail - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
Who You Are - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
In My Tree - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Smile - London, England (October 29, 1996)
Off He Goes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
Habit - Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996)
Red Mosquito - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Lukin - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
Present Tense - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
Mankind - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
I'm Open - Barcelona, Spain (November 21, 1996)
Around The Bend - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 20, 1996)
Improv - Charleston, South Carolina (October 5, 1996)
Roadhouse Blues Improv - Paris, France (November 7, 1996)
Leaving Here - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)

Smile from London on V1

TheRealDanPatch

Should have Version 1 in the respective mailboxes in about 1 hour from now.

tremors

Cameron4President wrote:

Should have Version 1 in the respective mailboxes in about 1 hour from now.

Great, I got it! Looks like you guys made good progress last night.

I apologise for the Portugal Smile choice - I had really just settled on Bareclona, until I learned about the fanclub single thing, and then was clutching at straws a bit.

I am going to listen to v1 on my headphones using my favourite mp3 player which I've used for all the projects - up til now I've just been listening to no code on speakers, and the sq isn't always so apparent.

Will have a listen and report back!

Dazzler

listened to Version 1

Loving this alot. surprised at how well Wembly smile fitted in. That boot oversll isn't great, but Smile has enough simplicity for everything to come through in the mix.

Really pleased with how well this project has turned out.

Thanks Dan for having this vision, and working so hard with all the suggestions and all the 'going round in circles.' I only suggested perfromances for the last few projects, but it's been great fun, sharing our love for Pearl Jam live!

tremors

I listened all through V1 with a 'fresh pair of ears' and I really enjoyed it. I thought the Hartford In My Tree sounded great, and the London Smile was fine - even though the SQ is still a bit below those of the other tracks. Overall I thought the SQ on this collection was surprisingly high - much better than I'd expected with my headphones on, and especially up to Red Mosquito seemed as good as any of our non official bootleg projects. My energy was flagging a bit from Red Mosquito onwards, and I didn't entirely enjoy I'm Open - the bass or bass drum or something was throbbing quite a bit - maybe as a result of the volume hike. It was all fine though, and overall I thought sounds a very strong project. I still have mixed feelings about the bonus track section - I enjoyed everything that was there, but if I had to put my finger on what was missing I would say that ideally I would have liked something else right after Roadhouse Blues, before ending with Leaving Here.

So overall - really pleased, really enjoyed it and thought it sounded great throughout really, with some excellent choices improving this version a lot. My two personal things I would say which would bring a complete listening experience as we head towards the finish are - keeping an eye on the SQ of I'm Open - (is this the best section to use? Does the volume need to be hiked so much?), and is there anything we could add to the bonus section to finish on more of a high? (there may not be)

A great great listen though!

TheRealDanPatch

Dazzler wrote:

listened to Version 1

Loving this alot. surprised at how well Wembly smile fitted in. That boot oversll isn't great, but Smile has enough simplicity for everything to come through in the mix.

Really pleased with how well this project has turned out.

Thanks Dan for having this vision, and working so hard with all the suggestions and all the 'going round in circles.' I only suggested perfromances for the last few projects, but it's been great fun, sharing our love for Pearl Jam live!

Your welcome and thank you for all of your great suggestions.

-Smile turned out to be really good. Fits well into the project.

TheRealDanPatch

tremors wrote:

I listened all through V1 with a 'fresh pair of ears' and I really enjoyed it. I thought the Hartford In My Tree sounded great, and the London Smile was fine - even though the SQ is still a bit below those of the other tracks. Overall I thought the SQ on this collection was surprisingly high - much better than I'd expected with my headphones on, and especially up to Red Mosquito seemed as good as any of our non official bootleg projects. My energy was flagging a bit from Red Mosquito onwards, and I didn't entirely enjoy I'm Open - the bass or bass drum or something was throbbing quite a bit - maybe as a result of the volume hike. It was all fine though, and overall I thought sounds a very strong project. I still have mixed feelings about the bonus track section - I enjoyed everything that was there, but if I had to put my finger on what was missing I would say that ideally I would have liked something else right after Roadhouse Blues, before ending with Leaving Here.

So overall - really pleased, really enjoyed it and thought it sounded great throughout really, with some excellent choices improving this version a lot. My two personal things I would say which would bring a complete listening experience as we head towards the finish are - keeping an eye on the SQ of I'm Open - (is this the best section to use? Does the volume need to be hiked so much?), and is there anything we could add to the bonus section to finish on more of a high? (there may not be)

A great great listen though!

I thought that you guys wanted the volume raised on "I'm Open". As for the section used, yes I think it is the best section and I can't imagine changing it. I really thought the volume to "I'm Open" sounded just fine and is now even with the surrounding songs.

As for adding anything to the bonus section.....

No, I am against that. Just not much out there to add and I think that it is great the way it is.

tremors

Cameron4President wrote:

tremors wrote:

I listened all through V1 with a 'fresh pair of ears' and I really enjoyed it. I thought the Hartford In My Tree sounded great, and the London Smile was fine - even though the SQ is still a bit below those of the other tracks. Overall I thought the SQ on this collection was surprisingly high - much better than I'd expected with my headphones on, and especially up to Red Mosquito seemed as good as any of our non official bootleg projects. My energy was flagging a bit from Red Mosquito onwards, and I didn't entirely enjoy I'm Open - the bass or bass drum or something was throbbing quite a bit - maybe as a result of the volume hike. It was all fine though, and overall I thought sounds a very strong project. I still have mixed feelings about the bonus track section - I enjoyed everything that was there, but if I had to put my finger on what was missing I would say that ideally I would have liked something else right after Roadhouse Blues, before ending with Leaving Here.

So overall - really pleased, really enjoyed it and thought it sounded great throughout really, with some excellent choices improving this version a lot. My two personal things I would say which would bring a complete listening experience as we head towards the finish are - keeping an eye on the SQ of I'm Open - (is this the best section to use? Does the volume need to be hiked so much?), and is there anything we could add to the bonus section to finish on more of a high? (there may not be)

A great great listen though!

I thought that you guys wanted the volume raised on "I'm Open". As for the section used, yes I think it is the best section and I can't imagine changing it. I really thought the volume to "I'm Open" sounded just fine and is now even with the surrounding songs.

As for adding anything to the bonus section.....

No, I am against that. Just not much out there to add and I think that it is great the way it is.

Fair enough, I've nothing much to add then. I thought it sounded great overall but fell a bit short for me towards the end - if other people are happy with the ending then that's good.

TheRealDanPatch

tremors wrote:

Fair enough, I've nothing much to add then. I thought it sounded great overall but fell a bit short for me towards the end - if other people are happy with the ending then that's good.

Tremors, What would you add to the end?

I was under the impression that everybody was cool with the ending (bonus tracks), or either had resigned themselves to the fact that there is not much out there.

As for the volume on "I'm Open" is it a problem for anybody else? It seems to be too loud for Tremors, but just right for me. Do we need to go back to the 'Rough Draft' version or is this version fine, or is neither fine?

Thoughts/Opinions?

tremors

Cameron4President wrote:

tremors wrote:

Fair enough, I've nothing much to add then. I thought it sounded great overall but fell a bit short for me towards the end - if other people are happy with the ending then that's good.

Tremors, What would you add to the end?

I was under the impression that everybody was cool with the ending (bonus tracks), or either had resigned themselves to the fact that there is not much out there.

As for the volume on "I'm Open" is it a problem for anybody else? It seems to be too loud for Tremors, but just right for me. Do we need to go back to the 'Rough Draft' version or is this version fine, or is neither fine?

Thoughts/Opinions?

I don't know really - if there was anything to add - it was just an 'ideal world' scenario really.

I don't feel my judgement when it comes to things Pearl Jam is the best currently - and I don't feel I've been able to contribute to the project as well as usual, mainly because I've been super busy with work, and it's been quite stressful, so I've been a bit distracted all week.

So, I'm sorry, and I also don't want you changing the project around on my account if everyone else is happy with it.

I really enjoyed hearing the No Code Live this morning - it was a great tonic! So if nobody else has any problems with the ending then it's no doubt best to leave it as it is.

Dazzler

I thought I'm Open on version 1 was the right volume, and rough draft was a little too quiet

RedMosquito22

How does Randall's Island not get one song? Interesting.