Project #10 - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live

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  • tremors wrote:
    Dazzler wrote:

    Cool, are we closer to getting a version 1?

    Yes, I think we're making progress - getting closer! I think the Portugal Smile is a lot better, and I think the Hartford In My Tree is a great contender - would like to see what electricxlovex thinks of Hartford as a choice, since she has had some issues with the In My Tree and listened to quite a few alternatives I think

    okay, don't hate me...but I'm not too keen on the Hartford "In My Tree" - it starts off alright-ish and it's a solid performance but I don't know... Then again, I'm finding it difficult to compare the 2 that I can't choose between - possibly because I've listened to them so much

    I can't choose between Toledo, North Charleston and I'm adding Hartford to that list because I know that two of you guys liked it.

    I like all 3, I can't choose :(
  • okay, Listening to Hartford again
    It sounds better now, I took a bit of a break from listening. SQ is good ish but I still can't choose between North Charleston and Hartford. North Charleston SQ is equally as good IMO
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    okay, Listening to Hartford again
    It sounds better now, I took a bit of a break from listening. SQ is good ish but I still can't choose between North Charleston and Hartford. North Charleston SQ is equally as good IMO


    Will have a listen to these now before I go sleep
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  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,559
    Hey love the alternate covers!!! Binaural and Riot Act in particular!!!

    After a short break Myra, Tremors, Electricxlovex, and myself thought it was time to tackle the "No Code" album. "No Code" is the only studio album that the Projects team has not given the "live" treatment to, and we figured that we would save the best for last.


    Here are some parameters that we would like to go by for this project:


    -All songs must be from the 1996 Tour.

    -We will add 3-4 bonus songs at the end, which will be covers/B-sides/Improvs from the 1996 Tour.

    -Best SQ as possible.

    -Repeat Shows and Venues will be allowed for this Project.

    -No songs from the other Pearl Jam studio albums will be considered for bonus tracks.


    Please feel free to use this thread to make suggestions and give us feedback as to what would be good to include on this new compilation (and what wouldn't be good). I will be updating the working track list for this project on the front page of this thread (right here). Our plan is to slowly start putting this together on Monday (April 18th) and have it completed and ready for download by or before next Saturday (April 23rd).

    Please feel free to check out our other projects as well:

    Project #1

    Mixed_Metaphor.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Mixed Metaphor: Backspacer Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... pacer.html


    Project #2

    Vs%2BLive.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Turpentine & Nepotism: Vs. Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html


    Project #3

    Disc%2B2.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Ten Live: Then and Now
    Disc 1: http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... isc-1.html
    Disc 2: http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... isc-2.html


    Project #4

    The%2BTheory%2Bof%2BVitalogy.jpg

    Pearl Jam - The Theory of Vitalogy
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... alogy.html


    Project #5

    TKAACover.jpg

    Pearl Jam - The Kids Are Alright: The Songs of The Who
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... f-who.html


    Project #6

    Lights_Stars%2BCover.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Light Becomes Stars: Binaural Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... aural.html


    Project #7

    YLCover.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Static Echoes: Yield Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html


    Project #8

    Whispers_Cover.jpg

    Pearl Jam - The Whispers of War: Riot Act Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html


    Project #9

    Cover.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Break the Sky: Pearl Jam Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html



    Project #10 - "Pearl Jam - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live" **Version 1**

    Track List:

    Sometimes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
    Hail, Hail - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
    Who You Are - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    In My Tree - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    Smile -
    Off He Goes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
    Habit - Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996)
    Red Mosquito - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Lukin - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    Present Tense - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Mankind - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    I'm Open - Barcelona, Spain (November 21, 1996)
    Around The Bend - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 20, 1996)
    Improv - Charleston, South Carolina (October 5, 1996)
    Roadhouse Blues Improv - Paris, France (November 7, 1996)
    Leaving Here - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)

    **Projected Release/Download Date: April 23rd, 2011**
    Melbourne #1 '98
    Melbourne #2 '03
    Melbourne #3 '03
    Melbourne #1 '06
    Melbourne #3 '06
    Melbourne '09
    Melbourne '14
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    okay, Listening to Hartford again
    It sounds better now, I took a bit of a break from listening. SQ is good ish but I still can't choose between North Charleston and Hartford. North Charleston SQ is equally as good IMO


    Is a difficult choice! I do think the SQ is better for Hartford - particularly for the instruments - the drums and the guitars, and the playing is tight - all this makes it a polished performance.

    When compared with N. Charleston though, Hartford sounds less impassioned - particularly on the vocals - which sound a bit less intense by comparison. Hartford overall sounded to me tighter, and stronger musically, whereas Charleston got to me more, and gave me more of an emotional reaction.

    Very tough, I could imagine people preferring Hartford for the reasons above - but I think if I had to choose between them I would favour N. Charleston - because of a more passionate vocal,

    We probably need to see which other people prefer overall
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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    BrainofBGA wrote:
    Hey love the alternate covers!!! Binaural and Riot Act in particular!!!


    Yeah, Cameron4President has done some great stuff with the covers. He has put a hell of a lot of work into these projects. Phenomenal
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  • tremors wrote:
    okay, Listening to Hartford again
    It sounds better now, I took a bit of a break from listening. SQ is good ish but I still can't choose between North Charleston and Hartford. North Charleston SQ is equally as good IMO


    Is a difficult choice! I do think the SQ is better for Hartford - particularly for the instruments - the drums and the guitars, and the playing is tight - all this makes it a polished performance.

    When compared with N. Charleston though, Hartford sounds less impassioned - particularly on the vocals - which sound a bit less intense by comparison. Hartford overall sounded to me tighter, and stronger musically, whereas Charleston got to me more, and gave me more of an emotional reaction.

    Very tough, I could imagine people preferring Hartford for the reasons above - but I think if I had to choose between them I would favour N. Charleston - because of a more passionate vocal,

    We probably need to see which other people prefer overall

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who found this incredibly difficult
    It's because I cherish that song so much, means a lot and a lot

    So it's between Hartford and North Charleston
    who's going to win ? ;)

    tremors wrote:
    BrainofBGA wrote:
    Hey love the alternate covers!!! Binaural and Riot Act in particular!!!


    Yeah, Cameron4President has done some great stuff with the covers. He has put a hell of a lot of work into these projects. Phenomenal

    the covers are great, Dan is amazing at making them
    they make this all seem so official :ugeek: :D
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Have you used "Long Road" yet for a bonus track?
    Shows: 6.27.08 Hartford, CT/5.15.10 Hartford, CT/6.18.2011 Hartford, CT (EV Solo)/10.19.13 Brooklyn/10.25.13 Hartford
    "Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    Newch91 wrote:
    Have you used "Long Road" yet for a bonus track?

    Yes, project #4, The Theory of Vitalogy.
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    tremors wrote:

    When compared with N. Charleston though, Hartford sounds less impassioned - particularly on the vocals - which sound a bit less intense by comparison. Hartford overall sounded to me tighter, and stronger musically, whereas Charleston got to me more, and gave me more of an emotional reaction.

    Very tough, I could imagine people preferring Hartford for the reasons above - but I think if I had to choose between them I would favour N. Charleston - because of a more passionate vocal,

    We probably need to see which other people prefer overall

    I agree with this. ^
    North Charleston SQ is equally as good IMO

    With this ^, not so much.

    I think Hartford has a better SQ than North Charleston.

    But North Charleston is not bad sound-wise and sure is a lot better than a lot of 96 boots.

    I understand how you guys found it hard to choose between the two.

    At first, I thought I liked N. Charleston better, because of the emotion it delivers. This version is special for this reason, I reckon.

    Yet, this is not exactly the feeling I expect to get out of this song. Quite the opposite actually. To me, it's always been a very uplifting song, liberated and carefree - 'high' (in more than one sense 8-) ). So, although it's interesting to get the exact opposite feeling this time, I'd still favor Hartford over Charleston.

    Comparing both of them with Berlin, I admit they stand out, even though I saw nothing wrong with this Berlin version we had in the first place.

    So that's one vote for Hartford over N. Charleston and over Berlin.
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    tremors wrote:
    Yeah Smile Portugal 2 I like a lot! Louder version, quite energetic, noisy crowd, but good atmosphere - cheering in the middle - 'Portugal, Portugal' chant at the end, which I always like, but we don't need to include. Good high energy cheerful version

    I think it's better than Hamburg, and doesn't have the complication of being already known. The SQ is sounding fine through my hi fi speakers - but I've not heard on headphones

    You're listening to Cascais 2, right ?
    Listening to them all again.
    For as much as I think that we need to change the current Smile, I think this version suffers from a very bad SQ, worse than Hamburg actually. Especially at the beginning, where we need it to be good. After a while, not so much, but that's probably because I get used to it.
    I mean, we can try to change it in favor of Cascais 2 for Version 1, but I don't think it'll improve anything. I hope I'm wrong though, I do (as usual :D ) like the sing-along.
  • Dazzler wrote:
    Possibility for extras, but don't really think they're needed....

    This is exactly what I am thinking. If it came down to just 'Leaving Here' as a bonus, then I would be fine with that.
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • Dazzler wrote:
    tremors wrote:
    Yeah Smile Portugal 2 I like a lot! Louder version, quite energetic, noisy crowd, but good atmosphere - cheering in the middle - 'Portugal, Portugal' chant at the end, which I always like, but we don't need to include. Good high energy cheerful version

    I think it's better than Hamburg, and doesn't have the complication of being already known. The SQ is sounding fine through my hi fi speakers - but I've not heard on headphones

    Cool, are we closer to getting a version 1?
    There's a chance i may be able to increase the volume of I'm Open, as I find it's a little quiet compared to the rest of the project.


    I increased the volume quite a bit from the original. I afraid that anymore may cause distortion, but I will try for V1
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • BrainofBGA wrote:
    Hey love the alternate covers!!! Binaural and Riot Act in particular!!!

    After a short break Myra, Tremors, Electricxlovex, and myself thought it was time to tackle the "No Code" album. "No Code" is the only studio album that the Projects team has not given the "live" treatment to, and we figured that we would save the best for last.


    Here are some parameters that we would like to go by for this project:


    -All songs must be from the 1996 Tour.

    -We will add 3-4 bonus songs at the end, which will be covers/B-sides/Improvs from the 1996 Tour.

    -Best SQ as possible.

    -Repeat Shows and Venues will be allowed for this Project.

    -No songs from the other Pearl Jam studio albums will be considered for bonus tracks.


    Please feel free to use this thread to make suggestions and give us feedback as to what would be good to include on this new compilation (and what wouldn't be good). I will be updating the working track list for this project on the front page of this thread (right here). Our plan is to slowly start putting this together on Monday (April 18th) and have it completed and ready for download by or before next Saturday (April 23rd).

    Please feel free to check out our other projects as well:

    Project #1

    Mixed_Metaphor.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Mixed Metaphor: Backspacer Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... pacer.html


    Project #2

    Vs%2BLive.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Turpentine & Nepotism: Vs. Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html


    Project #3

    Disc%2B2.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Ten Live: Then and Now
    Disc 1: http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... isc-1.html
    Disc 2: http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... isc-2.html


    Project #4

    The%2BTheory%2Bof%2BVitalogy.jpg

    Pearl Jam - The Theory of Vitalogy
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... alogy.html


    Project #5

    TKAACover.jpg

    Pearl Jam - The Kids Are Alright: The Songs of The Who
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... f-who.html


    Project #6

    Lights_Stars%2BCover.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Light Becomes Stars: Binaural Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... aural.html


    Project #7

    YLCover.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Static Echoes: Yield Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html


    Project #8

    Whispers_Cover.jpg

    Pearl Jam - The Whispers of War: Riot Act Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html


    Project #9

    Cover.jpg

    Pearl Jam - Break the Sky: Pearl Jam Live
    http://dp-rearviewmirror.blogspot.com/2 ... -live.html



    Project #10 - "Pearl Jam - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live" **Version 1**

    Track List:

    Sometimes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
    Hail, Hail - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
    Who You Are - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    In My Tree - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    Smile -
    Off He Goes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
    Habit - Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996)
    Red Mosquito - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Lukin - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    Present Tense - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Mankind - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    I'm Open - Barcelona, Spain (November 21, 1996)
    Around The Bend - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 20, 1996)
    Improv - Charleston, South Carolina (October 5, 1996)
    Roadhouse Blues Improv - Paris, France (November 7, 1996)
    Leaving Here - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)

    **Projected Release/Download Date: April 23rd, 2011**

    Thanks, Riot Act was my favorite cover to do :D
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • Going with Hartford.....

    Project #10 - "Pearl Jam - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live" **Version 1**

    Track List:

    Sometimes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
    Hail, Hail - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
    Who You Are - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    In My Tree - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Smile - What is the final verdict?
    Off He Goes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
    Habit - Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996)
    Red Mosquito - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Lukin - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    Present Tense - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Mankind - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    I'm Open - Barcelona, Spain (November 21, 1996)
    Around The Bend - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 20, 1996)
    Improv - Charleston, South Carolina (October 5, 1996)
    Roadhouse Blues Improv - Paris, France (November 7, 1996)
    Leaving Here - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Going with Hartford.....

    Project #10 - "Pearl Jam - The Ascending Road Ahead: No Code Live" **Version 1**

    Track List:

    Sometimes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
    Hail, Hail - Hamburg, Germany (November 4, 1996)
    Who You Are - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    In My Tree - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Smile - What is the final verdict?
    Off He Goes - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 19, 1996)
    Habit - Toledo, Ohio (September 22, 1996)
    Red Mosquito - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Lukin - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    Present Tense - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Mankind - Berlin, Germany (November 3, 1996)
    I'm Open - Barcelona, Spain (November 21, 1996)
    Around The Bend - 1996 Bridge School Benefit (October 20, 1996)
    Improv - Charleston, South Carolina (October 5, 1996)
    Roadhouse Blues Improv - Paris, France (November 7, 1996)
    Leaving Here - Hartford, Connecticut (October 2, 1996)
    Sweet! Hartford kicking ass!
    Shows: 6.27.08 Hartford, CT/5.15.10 Hartford, CT/6.18.2011 Hartford, CT (EV Solo)/10.19.13 Brooklyn/10.25.13 Hartford
    "Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
  • Are the changes correct so that we can proceed with Version 1?

    -New 'Smile': Portugal 2?

    -In My Tree: Hartford

    -Up volume on I'm Open and put back the last 10-15 seconds


    Somebody get me this info soon and I can send out V1. I would like to be able to shoot this out tonight. Next to days are way too busy for me, so the more I can do now the better.

    PS. I am not keen on Barcelona 'Smile'. We have Been there, done that (ATS: NC Live). :D
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    Are the changes correct so that we can proceed with Version 1?

    -New 'Smile': Portugal 2?

    -In My Tree: Hartford

    -Up volume on I'm Open and put back the last 10-15 seconds


    Somebody get me this info soon and I can send out V1. I would like to be able to shoot this out tonight. Next to days are way too busy for me, so the more I can do now the better.

    PS. I am not keen on Barcelona 'Smile'. We have Been there, done that (ATS: NC Live). :D

    Re : Smile
    I'd say change it to the Portugal 2 version and we'll figure from there. Anyway, the alternative is that of the Rough Draft (I guess :? ), so that'll make for an easy comparison (flow / SQ).
  • myra
    myra Posts: 1,257
    Newch91 wrote:
    Sweet! Hartford kicking ass!

    Definitely beating Berlin now :shock: :)
  • myra wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Sweet! Hartford kicking ass!

    Definitely beating Berlin now :shock: :)

    I wish that they had played 'Smile' in Hartford.
    I am the artist formally known as "Cameron4President"....
    1998: Va Beach VA
    2000: Va Beach VA, Columbia MD
    2003: Raleigh NC, Bristow VA
    2008: Washington DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Bristow VA
    2013: Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Charlotte NC
    2014: Cincinnati, OH
    2016: Hampton, VA, Raleigh, NC