***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

The Fixer wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Yeah, apparently he finally got a hit before leaving. So hopefully it's nothing too terrible.

On an unrelated note - burning your shit now....

EDIT: Damnit. Just got the news. He broke a bone in his hand.

EDIT EDIT: Shit. It's a bone that usually requires surgery. GOD. DAMNIT.

1 - Not too worried about brown. Sucks he got hurt, but could be the best thing for him. He was a mess anyway. And Francisco deserves a shot anyway IMO.

2 - I wasn't worried about Utley until I heard about the shot. Hopefully they are just experimenting on how to handle this and they can figure out how to deal with it.

That article I posted really hits home. Rollins is huge this year. I like Delwyn Young, but can you imagine a Young/Valdez middle infield??? Yikes.

3 - DVDs......YES!!!!!! CAn't f'ing wait

yeah i cannt wait for these digital versatile disc's to arrive. i've got a mini contingent of our halloween tailgate ready to come over and recreate the magic (with the exception of what happened across the street) once these babies arrive. way to be jp.

i just feel bad for brown. horrible first couple weeks...then he gets his first hit which might make him think he's about to break out---then boom--he breaks his fucking hand. that is rough. luckily ben fransisco looks ready to go.

utley---i'm a little more concerned after reading gelb's article today. 4 guys had the same injury last year. 2 had season ending injuries. one had a down year. but josh hamilton played through and won the mvp. :? .......well let's hope for the latter gentlemen

The Fixer wrote:

I don't agree with everything in this piece, but it's a nice dose of reality.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.ph ... -phillies/

I think this is good and I think the Utley and Brown situation just goes to show that championships are not won in February. It's a long season and lots can happen.

Cliffy6745 wrote:

You guys read what Neyer had to say about the broken bone? That it usually takes about a year or so to get your power back after this bone has been broken.

I can't stand neyer, so I didn't see his article. I know that the hamate is no joke though. A lot of guys (derrek lee, nomar, etc) never recover from this injury. Doesn't sound like brown's injury is as serious as those examples, so I guess we will see.

It's a lot easier to add bats than arms during the year. And Francisco will be OK in RF.

Now get to April 1st already

neilybabes86 wrote:

ny busting up philly again

huh? :?

eeriepadave wrote:

pathetic game guys! :roll:

eidt. oooops meant to post this in the Flyers thread not the phillies

The Juggler wrote:

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sooo...we're 4 days after the shot and the phils aren't saying anything about 2-6 yet.

you'd know about 3 days after if it helped or not. i don't think this is good sign fellas....

Eh...the way I see it is that you're not supposed to give those shots to that area, so they'd rather be cautious about it then just run him out there in spring training. If there's anyone who doesn't need ST, it's Chase.

Phillies Team Physician Dr. Michael Ciccotti issued the following statement regarding Chase Utley’s health status.

“Chase has had mild patellar tendinitis and chondromalacia in the past that have previously resolved quickly. His symptoms returned during his off-season workouts, and he developed some anterior knee pain consistent with his prior history. When he reported to spring training this year, his knee was treated as it had been in the past, however his symptoms continued. An MRI was obtained that demonstrated his prior tendinitis, chondromalacia, and bone inflammation. His chondromalacia symptoms persisted in spite of focused non-operative care, including a cortisone injection. A subsequent cartilage-specific MRI was obtained confirming the initial diagnosis. Continued non-operative treatment is being carried out and additional opinions will be obtained.”

AKA - Dude's knee more sore than usual. He'll most likely be fine.

The Juggler wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

Phillies Team Physician Dr. Michael Ciccotti issued the following statement regarding Chase Utley’s health status.

“Chase has had mild patellar tendinitis and chondromalacia in the past that have previously resolved quickly. His symptoms returned during his off-season workouts, and he developed some anterior knee pain consistent with his prior history. When he reported to spring training this year, his knee was treated as it had been in the past, however his symptoms continued. An MRI was obtained that demonstrated his prior tendinitis, chondromalacia, and bone inflammation. His chondromalacia symptoms persisted in spite of focused non-operative care, including a cortisone injection. A subsequent cartilage-specific MRI was obtained confirming the initial diagnosis. Continued non-operative treatment is being carried out and additional opinions will be obtained.”

AKA - Dude's knee more sore than usual. He'll most likely be fine.

well that is the optimistic approach. but for the first time they are talking publicly about the possibility of surgery :
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Phi ... Utley.html


got your package yesterday...thanks again dude. gonna give them a whirl this weekend. :thumbup:

Eh, as long as he's there for the majority of the season then I'm fine.

And good to hear. Enjoy that shit.