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Phantom Pain · February 2011

The Juggler wrote:

i'm still soaking this in but some of the players' reactions are hi-larious:
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2011/02/ea ... iring.html

Omar Gaither via Jeff McLane:
"I didn't know Juan knew defense."

Asante Samuel, also via Jeff McLane:
"The offensive line coach?"

Darryl Tapp via Jonathan Tamari:
"That's shocking."

oh boy.

Jauron is sounding better and better

The Juggler · February 2011

Phantom Pain wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i'm still soaking this in but some of the players' reactions are hi-larious:
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2011/02/ea ... iring.html

Omar Gaither via Jeff McLane:
"I didn't know Juan knew defense."

Asante Samuel, also via Jeff McLane:
"The offensive line coach?"

Darryl Tapp via Jonathan Tamari:
"That's shocking."

oh boy.

Jauron is sounding better and better

if you're gonna get rid of mcdermott, i just kind of thought they'd go with someone more established...or someone who's coached defense in the last 22 years, at a level higher than high school maybe? i dunno, call me crazy.

i hear what jp is saying about washburn being the experienced voice in his ear and all. love the washburn hire---but that dynamic is kind of exactly what was supposed to work with jauron and mcdermott last year. it's like the same thing with two new people now. castillo may end up working out but this doesn't seem like a move a team with super bowl expectations next year should be making.

and i keep coming back to talent level and injuries. stay healthy, fill the couple obvious holes and the defense will be better no matter who coordinator is. i'm just not sure a super bowl contender should have a guy who's essentially learning on the job running their defense. if anything, why not make washburn the coordinator? :?

The Juggler · February 2011

this means nothing obviously, but it echoes some of the things we've been talking about. other than the sense of urgency thing for reid, the last paragraph is what concerns me about the move yesterday

Steelers coach: Reid's job on the line
FORT WORTH, Tex. -- News travels fast in the NFL and when one head coach makes a bold, stunning, some may say crazy decision to promote his offensive line coach to defensive coordinator, it ricochets to the game's biggest stage.

In case you woke up thinking that Andy Reid's decision to name Juan Castillo as his new defensive coordinator was a bad dream, it was not. It was as real as the assessment Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians made about the potential fallout from such a decision.

"Andy's job is probably on the line," Arians said Thursday. "But I know this -- he replaced [Castillo] with a good offensive line. Howard Mudd is the absolute best. The quality of the staff is there. Now it's just a matter of game day and how they're going to handle it."

Arians has to gotten know Castillo through coaching channels and is familiar with his legendary work ethic.

"Nobody's going to work harder because Juan is one of the hardest-working coaches that I know," Arians said. "When you block as many things as Juan has blocked you kind of know what's sound on defense and what's not."

Still, there are very legitimate questions about how Castillo will handle some of the chores of the job he is not accustomed to.

"Now matching wits with an offensive coordinator -- the scheme's going to be sound. He knows what's sound," Arians said. "It's having the gut calls, when to blitz, when not to blitz, when to play this, when to play that. That would be the only question I would have."

Jearlpam0925 · February 2011

I'm sure everyone has seen it, but I thought I'd post it. Good shit....

http://www.the700level.com/2011/02/dese ... lying.html

pjhawks · February 2011

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

I'm sure everyone has seen it, but I thought I'd post it. Good shit....

http://www.the700level.com/2011/02/dese ... lying.html

one thing you have to give the Lurie's credit for, off the field this team does a lot of really good things.

PureandEasy · February 2011

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

I'm sure everyone has seen it, but I thought I'd post it. Good shit....

http://www.the700level.com/2011/02/dese ... lying.html

That was absolutely awesome, made me cry.

booomm11 · February 2011

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

I'm sure everyone has seen it, but I thought I'd post it. Good shit....

http://www.the700level.com/2011/02/dese ... lying.html

that was cool!

The Juggler · February 2011

PureandEasy wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

I'm sure everyone has seen it, but I thought I'd post it. Good shit....

http://www.the700level.com/2011/02/dese ... lying.html

That was absolutely awesome, made me cry.

guess desean's not the punk most people outside of philly thinks of him as. that was awesome. i even saw an interview with him at the car show later yesterday on sportsnight and you could tell the kid really had an effect on him.

pjhawks · February 2011

Packers win the Super Bowl throwing 39 passes and only running 11 times with a running back. interesting isn't it? where is the balance, you gotta run the ball...

The Juggler · February 2011

pjhawks wrote:

Packers win the Super Bowl throwing 39 passes and only running 11 times with a running back. interesting isn't it? where is the balance, you gotta run the ball...

only a matter time before you chirped up about that. like i've said a bunch of times, it's all about match ups. steelers were the best in the league against the run. 63 yards per game or so. that is crazy good. the pats provided the blue print for beating them back in november. green bay followed it to perfection yesterday.

but during the run through the playoffs, including the super bowl where they barely ran it, pack still averaged 24 non qb rushes per game....with james starks as their rb!

....guess i should rename this the 2011 thread now, eh?

pjhawks · February 2011

The Juggler wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

Packers win the Super Bowl throwing 39 passes and only running 11 times with a running back. interesting isn't it? where is the balance, you gotta run the ball...

only a matter time before you chirped up about that. like i've said a bunch of times, it's all about match ups. steelers were the best in the league against the run. 63 yards per game or so. that is crazy good. the pats provided the blue print for beating them back in november. green bay followed it to perfection yesterday.

but during the run through the playoffs, including the super bowl where they barely ran it, pack still averaged 24 non qb rushes per game....with james starks as their rb!

....guess i should rename this the 2011 thread now, eh?

don't you find it interesting at all though jaegs? it is a very conveneient excuse for the reid haters whenever the eagles lose yet you dismiss it so easily when someone else wins without it. as you know i find it an easy and convenient complaint that the media and fans make when the eagles lose but to me it's hogwash. you can win without having to have balance as the past few years have shown. as for your matchups argument that is the argument i make for the passing game. it is a passing league and all the rules are setup in favor of the passing game. other than getting a pash rush it is impossible to stop a great passing team because of the rules. i am not trying to be on a 'high horse' as you so like to label me just making the argument and backing it up that balancing the running game and passing game is so highly overrated and just a convenient complaint that lazy media and fans like to use. it wasn't lack of balance that cost the eagles the packers playoff game but a lousy pass by vick at the end of the game. if he makes one more play in the passing game that day....

The Juggler · February 2011

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

only a matter time before you chirped up about that. like i've said a bunch of times, it's all about match ups. steelers were the best in the league against the run. 63 yards per game or so. that is crazy good. the pats provided the blue print for beating them back in november. green bay followed it to perfection yesterday.

but during the run through the playoffs, including the super bowl where they barely ran it, pack still averaged 24 non qb rushes per game....with james starks as their rb!

....guess i should rename this the 2011 thread now, eh?

don't you find it interesting at all though jaegs? it is a very conveneient excuse for the reid haters whenever the eagles lose yet you dismiss it so easily when someone else wins without it. as you know i find it an easy and convenient complaint that the media and fans make when the eagles lose but to me it's hogwash. you can win without having to have balance as the past few years have shown. as for your matchups argument that is the argument i make for the passing game. it is a passing league and all the rules are setup in favor of the passing game. other than getting a pash rush it is impossible to stop a great passing team because of the rules. i am not trying to be on a 'high horse' as you so like to label me just making the argument and backing it up that balancing the running game and passing game is so highly overrated and just a convenient complaint that lazy media and fans like to use. it wasn't lack of balance that cost the eagles the packers playoff game but a lousy pass by vick at the end of the game. if he makes one more play in the passing game that day....

to put it simply: match ups---the steelers only give up 63 yards per game on the ground. their secondary is the weakest part of their defense. everyone knew going in exactly what the packers were going to do. did you? :? i'd have no problem with the birds coming in with the same approach against the steelers.

obviously this does not work every game. the packers have played 4 playoff games including yesterday. in 3 out of 4 they ran the ball more than 25 times. yesterday they barely ran it because they were up against the stingiest rush defense in all of football. they won the game...particularly because the steelers turned it over 3 times, not because the packers threw the ball 39 times. :roll: it is all about match ups.

not sure why we have to rehash this again. not rocket science here.

we have more important things to worry about. like our offensive line coach being promoted to defensive coordinator

pjhawks · February 2011

The Juggler wrote:

to put it simply: match ups---the steelers only give up 63 yards per game on the ground. their secondary is the weakest part of their defense. everyone knew going in exactly what the packers were going to do. did you? :? i'd have no problem with the birds coming in with the same approach against the steelers.

obviously this does not work every game. the packers have played 4 playoff games including yesterday. in 3 out of 4 they ran the ball more than 25 times. yesterday they barely ran it because they were up against the stingiest rush defense in all of football. they won the game...particularly because the steelers turned it over 3 times, not because the packers threw the ball 39 times. :roll: it is all about match ups.

not sure why we have to rehash this again. not rocket science here.

we have more important things to worry about. like our offensive line coach being promoted to defensive coordinator

matchups is my point exactly and Reid's i believe. if you have a great passing game and good offensive line 99% of the time the pass is a better option. all the rules favor the pass along with big play capabilites. for some reason no one in philly can admit that that is where the game is in 2011.

and jaegs just trying to have a discussion/argument. nothing wrong with a legitimate non-personal argument now is there? or are you too concerned with emoticonts to care?

booomm11 · February 2011

Birds were 20yds away from beating the Pack...

Add quality to the D secondary and O line, and Eagles will be playing in the SB next season. Guarantee it! They have that much talent

pjhawks · February 2011

Gruden to replace Reid? eagles deny it. interesting though.

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7943701

Flagg · February 2011

pjhawks wrote:

Gruden to replace Reid? eagles deny it. interesting though.

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7943701

Where there is smoke there is fire?

The Juggler · February 2011

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

to put it simply: match ups---the steelers only give up 63 yards per game on the ground. their secondary is the weakest part of their defense. everyone knew going in exactly what the packers were going to do. did you? :? i'd have no problem with the birds coming in with the same approach against the steelers.

obviously this does not work every game. the packers have played 4 playoff games including yesterday. in 3 out of 4 they ran the ball more than 25 times. yesterday they barely ran it because they were up against the stingiest rush defense in all of football. they won the game...particularly because the steelers turned it over 3 times, not because the packers threw the ball 39 times. :roll: it is all about match ups.

not sure why we have to rehash this again. not rocket science here.

we have more important things to worry about. like our offensive line coach being promoted to defensive coordinator

matchups is my point exactly and Reid's i believe. if you have a great passing game and good offensive line 99% of the time the pass is a better option. all the rules favor the pass along with big play capabilites. for some reason no one in philly can admit that that is where the game is in 2011.

and jaegs just trying to have a discussion/argument. nothing wrong with a legitimate non-personal argument now is there? or are you too concerned with emoticonts to care?

dude. you are agreeing with me. it is all about match ups and personnel. there's not one magic formula that is going to work against every team. going into the packers game (the one you brought up) vick had been struggling for a few weeks. our running back, one of the best in the league, was rested and averaging 5 yards per carry. the packers defense was better against the pass than the run. to compound that, they utilized a 2 deep zone the entire game that is designed to stop our passing game. conventional wisdom says to utilize the ground game a bit more there.

our passing game wasn't "great" at that point. and i don't think anyone would characterize our o line as "good" at that point. again--with the super bowl the packers had the best qb in the league at the time, a running back who came out of nowhere but had had a few unexpectedly good games in the playoffs, and were going up against a defense that was absolutely great against the run but had secondary issues the whole season. that dictates them to pass a lot more than in their other 3 playoff games. so to compare yesterday with the eagles playoff game just doesn't compute.

you can bring this up all you want. it's the same old argument though. kind of old and won't change...at least for another year or two

The Juggler · February 2011

Flagg wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

Gruden to replace Reid? eagles deny it. interesting though.

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7943701

Where there is smoke there is fire?

nope. this was something the kyle eckel, a backup fullback for the eagles a couple years ago, posted on his facebook page while drunk and watching the super bowl......then with the magic of the world wide web

poof! it's everywhere. :roll:

The Juggler · February 2011

caldwell and zordich officially promoted to linebackers and secondary coaches.

http://www.csnphilly.com/02/07/11/Eagle ... feedID=704

so we've got a guy with a lifetime of experience coaching the line, and hardly any experience coaching the rest of the defense.

Phantom Pain · February 2011

The Juggler wrote:

caldwell and zordich officially promoted to linebackers and secondary coaches.

http://www.csnphilly.com/02/07/11/Eagle ... feedID=704

so we've got a guy with a lifetime of experience coaching the line, and hardly any experience coaching the rest of the defense.

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