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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    What I don't understand is when they put him in shotgun with no protection in the backfield though. Either you expect him to run immediately or get smoked because that line is absolutely terrible. I thought the "Winston Justice game" was going to be replaced by the "King Dunlap game". Interestingly enough, it's Dunlap replacing Justice, whom I would've loved to have in there as opposed to 4 years ago. Funny.
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Fixer wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    I'm not gonna go off on Reid but i'm just not a fan of his anymore.

    yeah, he is TERRIBLE!!!!!

    this team is gonna win 12 games when they were predicted by most to finish 3rd in their division...FIRE HIS ASS!!

    fucking eagles fans

    Coming from a guy that rips a manager that actually one a title here(Uncle charlie) u crack me up. Wasn't it u who said ur not a fan ur a fan of betting??
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    jamminpearls wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    I'm not gonna go off on Reid but i'm just not a fan of his anymore.

    yeah, he is TERRIBLE!!!!!

    this team is gonna win 12 games when they were predicted by most to finish 3rd in their division...FIRE HIS ASS!!

    fucking eagles fans

    Coming from a guy that rips a manager that actually one a title here(Uncle charlie) u crack me up. Wasn't it u who said ur not a fan ur a fan of betting??

    you're right. reid sucks. they should fire him. and the phils should give howard another contract extension, trade for papelbon, and sign zach duke

    I think the NFL sucks. The only reason I watch non-eagles games is for the gambling. that is true
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    I gotta say college ball is by far much worse. I hate the replay and how QB's are made to be dandies in the NFL, but college ball is unwatchable for me for the most part. If anything THAT is the sport I watch for the gambling.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    I gotta say college ball is by far much worse. I hate the replay and how QB's are made to be dandies in the NFL, but college ball is unwatchable for me for the most part. If anything THAT is the sport I watch for the gambling.

    betting on college FB is wayyy better than betting on the nfl. but I do love betting on both.

    the nfl rules and refs are just insanely bad...as are most teams in the league. it's a horseshit product
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    I gotta say college ball is by far much worse. I hate the replay and how QB's are made to be dandies in the NFL, but college ball is unwatchable for me for the most part. If anything THAT is the sport I watch for the gambling.

    betting on college FB is wayyy better than betting on the nfl. but I do love betting on both.

    the nfl rules and refs are just insanely bad...as are most teams in the league. it's a horseshit product

    I don't know, any random college team may play 3, 4, meaningful games a year. The rest are against inferior teams, and games are made to look more spectacular than they really are all because one team sucks way more than the other, or one side's offense is amazing but it's defense sucks so it makes games seem competitive when they really aren't. To me there's no difference between watching college and high school - just watching kids play with a few really really exceptional players on one side of the ball or the other.

    My whole argument excludes the SEC though. I love the SEC. I'll watch any of their games. AAAA NFL football.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    fixer this is bizzaro world because i will now attempt to defend reid's game plan (see jp--i liked it!):

    your post made me go check out the play calling. believe it or not i liked it.

    not including runs or sacks--in the first half vick was only in shotgun 4 times, completed 2 passes. under center he was 4/6. in the second half he was 9/18 out of the shotgun....but 13/18 under center. so he completed 50% of his passes in shotgun and 72% under center. some of their biggest plays of the year have come with vick under center, not in shotgun. i like when we roll him out to his left or utilize play action in games when we actually run the ball consistently...which brings me to my next point.

    despite being down early i think andy made a nice attempt at sticking with the run. mccoy had all but 1 of his 11 carries through just our 2nd drive in the 3rd quarter. gained 64 yards. decent day. again- a closer game, he probably would have gotten up to the 15 or 16 i believe he should get consistently.

    you mentioned the 4th quarter and that we put vick in shotgun more, this is true. but the reason was we were down 3 scores and had to abandon the run game at that point.

    so i'm not sure i agree with you about the under center/shot gun thing. they did use a lot of 2 tight end packages today to help with the line. king dunlap could have used 4 tight ends on his side. i think your not giving vick enough credit for his ability to read what the defenses are giving him. i think he's been fine in that regard....a million times better then before his imprisonment actually. so you gotta give reid more credit for coaching him up there.

    see? BIZZARO WORLD! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    6a0120a6dde087970b0147e0d99e03970b-800wi

    :mrgreen:
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    nbc is hyping the hell out of the birds for next week's game.

    gentlemen, like it or not, we are...america's team. :mrgreen:
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    The Jeagler wrote:
    nbc is hyping the hell out of the birds for next week's game.

    gentlemen, like it or not, we are...america's team. :mrgreen:

    Vick = ratings.
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Get us a ring Fat Man !

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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    fixer this is bizzaro world because i will now attempt to defend reid's game plan (see jp--i liked it!):

    your post made me go check out the play calling. believe it or not i liked it.

    not including runs or sacks--in the first half vick was only in shotgun 4 times, completed 2 passes. under center he was 4/6. in the second half he was 9/18 out of the shotgun....but 13/18 under center. so he completed 50% of his passes in shotgun and 72% under center. some of their biggest plays of the year have come with vick under center, not in shotgun. i like when we roll him out to his left or utilize play action in games when we actually run the ball consistently...which brings me to my next point.

    despite being down early i think andy made a nice attempt at sticking with the run. mccoy had all but 1 of his 11 carries through just our 2nd drive in the 3rd quarter. gained 64 yards. decent day. again- a closer game, he probably would have gotten up to the 15 or 16 i believe he should get consistently.

    you mentioned the 4th quarter and that we put vick in shotgun more, this is true. but the reason was we were down 3 scores and had to abandon the run game at that point.

    so i'm not sure i agree with you about the under center/shot gun thing. they did use a lot of 2 tight end packages today to help with the line. king dunlap could have used 4 tight ends on his side. i think your not giving vick enough credit for his ability to read what the defenses are giving him. i think he's been fine in that regard....a million times better then before his imprisonment actually. so you gotta give reid more credit for coaching him up there.

    see? BIZZARO WORLD! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:

    1 - how many times was vick sacked when he was under center? and what was the ypc on his under center throws?

    2 - the eagles have been just as, if not more successful running out of the shotgun this year than they have running out of their base offense

    I do like that harbor kid. he has helped the run game tremendously

    I do agree that reid is aweseome :mrgreen:
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    fixer this is bizzaro world because i will now attempt to defend reid's game plan (see jp--i liked it!):

    your post made me go check out the play calling. believe it or not i liked it.

    not including runs or sacks--in the first half vick was only in shotgun 4 times, completed 2 passes. under center he was 4/6. in the second half he was 9/18 out of the shotgun....but 13/18 under center. so he completed 50% of his passes in shotgun and 72% under center. some of their biggest plays of the year have come with vick under center, not in shotgun. i like when we roll him out to his left or utilize play action in games when we actually run the ball consistently...which brings me to my next point.

    despite being down early i think andy made a nice attempt at sticking with the run. mccoy had all but 1 of his 11 carries through just our 2nd drive in the 3rd quarter. gained 64 yards. decent day. again- a closer game, he probably would have gotten up to the 15 or 16 i believe he should get consistently.

    you mentioned the 4th quarter and that we put vick in shotgun more, this is true. but the reason was we were down 3 scores and had to abandon the run game at that point.

    so i'm not sure i agree with you about the under center/shot gun thing. they did use a lot of 2 tight end packages today to help with the line. king dunlap could have used 4 tight ends on his side. i think your not giving vick enough credit for his ability to read what the defenses are giving him. i think he's been fine in that regard....a million times better then before his imprisonment actually. so you gotta give reid more credit for coaching him up there.

    see? BIZZARO WORLD! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:

    1 - how many times was vick sacked when he was under center? and what was the ypc on his under center throws?

    2 - the eagles have been just as, if not more successful running out of the shotgun this year than they have running out of their base offense

    I do like that harbor kid. he has helped the run game tremendously

    I do agree that reid is aweseome :mrgreen:

    1- it took me long enough just to track his completion percentages :mrgreen: . i'm not looking up sacks and ypc. point is, he was much more accurate under center today.

    2- that's basically my point.....love harbor as a blocking te.
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  • The Juggler
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    ha...just checked it, he was sacked 3 times, all in shotgun formation too.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    fixer this is bizzaro world because i will now attempt to defend reid's game plan (see jp--i liked it!):

    your post made me go check out the play calling. believe it or not i liked it.

    not including runs or sacks--in the first half vick was only in shotgun 4 times, completed 2 passes. under center he was 4/6. in the second half he was 9/18 out of the shotgun....but 13/18 under center. so he completed 50% of his passes in shotgun and 72% under center. some of their biggest plays of the year have come with vick under center, not in shotgun. i like when we roll him out to his left or utilize play action in games when we actually run the ball consistently...which brings me to my next point.

    despite being down early i think andy made a nice attempt at sticking with the run. mccoy had all but 1 of his 11 carries through just our 2nd drive in the 3rd quarter. gained 64 yards. decent day. again- a closer game, he probably would have gotten up to the 15 or 16 i believe he should get consistently.

    you mentioned the 4th quarter and that we put vick in shotgun more, this is true. but the reason was we were down 3 scores and had to abandon the run game at that point.

    so i'm not sure i agree with you about the under center/shot gun thing. they did use a lot of 2 tight end packages today to help with the line. king dunlap could have used 4 tight ends on his side. i think your not giving vick enough credit for his ability to read what the defenses are giving him. i think he's been fine in that regard....a million times better then before his imprisonment actually. so you gotta give reid more credit for coaching him up there.

    see? BIZZARO WORLD! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:

    1 - how many times was vick sacked when he was under center? and what was the ypc on his under center throws?

    2 - the eagles have been just as, if not more successful running out of the shotgun this year than they have running out of their base offense

    I do like that harbor kid. he has helped the run game tremendously

    I do agree that reid is aweseome :mrgreen:

    1- it took me long enough just to track his completion percentages :mrgreen: . i'm not looking up sacks and ypc. point is, he was much more accurate under center today.

    2- that's basically my point.....love harbor as a blocking te.

    haha, I'm sure as hell not looking that stuff up. I figured you were on a roll so I'd give it a shot.

    we're splitting hairs. unbelievable fucking win. reid has done a tremendous job and vick has reviatlized his career and become one of the best weapons in the NFL (if not THE best).

    take care of business and hope that the pack can beat the bears. GB losing tonight actually helped the birds in that respect. the bears/pack game will be MUST WIN for GB now.

    great day
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Allen...Torn Patella Tendon

    This is getting like a MASH unit
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    ha...just checked it, he was sacked 3 times, all in shotgun formation too.

    that is shocking to me. I was screaming at the TV in the first half. their offense sucked...most of those 1st half plays were under center.

    well, I'm exhausted. this thread is awesome.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Allen...Torn Patella Tendon

    This is getting like a MASH unit


    half our starters on d have missed significant time or been placed on ir. that's part of the reason i'm not nearly as down on mcdermott as most are.

    what's the recovery time for this? i'd guess this might affect him going into camp next summer...
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    ha...just checked it, he was sacked 3 times, all in shotgun formation too.

    that is shocking to me. I was screaming at the TV in the first half. their offense sucked...most of those 1st half plays were under center.

    well, I'm exhausted. this thread is awesome.

    to be fair, he did run 10 times so a couple of those were probably close to being labeled as a sack but he gained a yard or two. i dunno...
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Allen...Torn Patella Tendon

    This is getting like a MASH unit


    half our starters on d have missed significant time or been placed on ir. that's part of the reason i'm not nearly as down on mcdermott as most are.

    what's the recovery time for this? i'd guess this might affect him going into camp next summer...

    My aunt who is a nurse said that it takes around 6 weeks plus rehab. So he should be ready by next year. Sucks though.
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