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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,534
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    if you don't look at the schedule you have no business what so ever predicting anything. utterly ridiculous.

    super bowl winning coach + franchise qb + already stout defense = a few more wins. they had one of the most inept coaches in their franchises history last year. they won 8 and 9 games the previous two years before the wheels fell off.

    rocket science, this is not. i'll wake you up next month. go back to sleep.

    Mike Shanahan won SB's because of a Hallof Fame QB, 2,000 yard running back, Hall of Fame safety anchoring his defense, and probably one of the best offense lines in the history of the game. Shanahan is one of the most overrated coaches in the history of the league. IE look at his work in Oakland before, and his work in Denver post-Elway. Shanahan sucks.

    I agree. you forgot one of the 3 best TEs of all time too

    Agreed.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    edited August 2010
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    if you don't look at the schedule you have no business what so ever predicting anything. utterly ridiculous.

    super bowl winning coach + franchise qb + already stout defense = a few more wins. they had one of the most inept coaches in their franchises history last year. they won 8 and 9 games the previous two years before the wheels fell off.

    rocket science, this is not. i'll wake you up next month. go back to sleep.

    Mike Shanahan won SB's because of a Hallof Fame QB, 2,000 yard running back, Hall of Fame safety anchoring his defense, and probably one of the best offense lines in the history of the game. Shanahan is one of the most overrated coaches in the history of the league. IE look at his work in Oakland before, and his work in Denver post-Elway. Shanahan sucks.

    I agree. you forgot one of the 3 best TEs of all time too

    that team's previous coaches could not get anything accomplished with that talent. its a quarterback driven league....tough to win much with turnover machines like brian greasie and jake plumber under center for so many years. plus most super bowl winners usually have a few hall of famers sprinkled throughout the roster

    he's got a top 10 qb cut in the same mold as elway, one of the best te's in the game, and a very good defense. 7-8 wins this year is about where they will be. he's the perfect coach for donovan at this stage in his career. i love the version of the west coast he runs---very close to a 50/50 run/pass ratio. look out for them next year...if there is a season.
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  • The Juggler
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    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    if you don't look at the schedule you have no business what so ever predicting anything. utterly ridiculous.

    super bowl winning coach + franchise qb + already stout defense = a few more wins. they had one of the most inept coaches in their franchises history last year. they won 8 and 9 games the previous two years before the wheels fell off.

    rocket science, this is not. i'll wake you up next month. go back to sleep.

    ok, we are gonna have to bet on this. I say 6 wins, you say 8. so we'll set the O/U at 7. you take the over, I got the under. 7 wins and it's a wash

    I'll bet whatever you want. the redskins are gonna blow as always

    7 would be a good number. but i don't like betting on another team in our own division. borderline fraudulent.

    incidentally the birds over under is 8.5....the skins? well, 7.5. shocking, right? :lol:
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  • The Juggler
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    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    if you don't look at the schedule you have no business what so ever predicting anything. utterly ridiculous.

    If I had to pick one game each of the last 2 years that I thought the eagles would win, I would have picked

    2008 - cincinnati
    2009 - oakland

    they didn't win either game. so my point is analyzing the schedule and predicting wins/losses is mostly a waste of time in my book. just look at the vegas O/Us for the year. That is the best gauge there is for predicting how teams will do. Eagles are 8.5 this year. I like the under

    dude. games like that happen every year. i don't get how you can so emphatically state they will win only 6 games but have no idea who they will be playing.

    if you don't care about who is on the schedule, you should stay away from making predictions all together.
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Wash will be 7-9 at best,they suck Mcnabb is a fraction of himself. There running backs all 20 of them are old and suck. Mcnabb will be lucky to make it thru 10 games. Santana Moss might benefit from 5 and cooley still decent,other then that there O sucks. I'd say 6-10 as for us i still see 8-8 to 10-6,with 9-7 as the most likely record. D-jack will put up 1200-1450yds hes gonna run wild this year if healthy.
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  • The Juggler
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    jamminpearls wrote:
    Wash will be 7-9 at best,they suck Mcnabb is a fraction of himself. There running backs all 20 of them are old and suck. Mcnabb will be lucky to make it thru 10 games. Santana Moss might benefit from 5 and cooley still decent,other then that there O sucks. I'd say 6-10 as for us i still see 8-8 to 10-6,with 9-7 as the most likely record. D-jack will put up 1200-1450yds hes gonna run wild this year if healthy.


    better hope our o line gets healthy and gels or it will be pretty bad too dude. remember the last 3 games last year? we have no depth.

    like i said, washington will be a few games better. we'll be a couple games worse. both teams will be much improved next year.
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  • pjhawks
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    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    if you don't look at the schedule you have no business what so ever predicting anything. utterly ridiculous.

    super bowl winning coach + franchise qb + already stout defense = a few more wins. they had one of the most inept coaches in their franchises history last year. they won 8 and 9 games the previous two years before the wheels fell off.

    rocket science, this is not. i'll wake you up next month. go back to sleep.

    ok, we are gonna have to bet on this. I say 6 wins, you say 8. so we'll set the O/U at 7. you take the over, I got the under. 7 wins and it's a wash

    I'll bet whatever you want. the redskins are gonna blow as always

    7 would be a good number. but i don't like betting on another team in our own division. borderline fraudulent.

    incidentally the birds over under is 8.5....the skins? well, 7.5. shocking, right? :lol:

    Eagles over (10-6) , Skins under (but barely, 7-9). i also agree with the assertion that looking at an NFL schedule and predicting wins is kind of irrelevant for 2 reasons. number 1 no one has a clue who will be good come week 8 - so many factors can come into play. 2nd reason is i've always believed in the NFL you are what are you regardless of who you play. Teams in the NFL end up where they should as it all evens out over 16 games. it's why I think the Eagles will be around 10-6 - too much talent (if fairly healthy) to be under .500 in my opinion.
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Jeagler wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Wash will be 7-9 at best,they suck Mcnabb is a fraction of himself. There running backs all 20 of them are old and suck. Mcnabb will be lucky to make it thru 10 games. Santana Moss might benefit from 5 and cooley still decent,other then that there O sucks. I'd say 6-10 as for us i still see 8-8 to 10-6,with 9-7 as the most likely record. D-jack will put up 1200-1450yds hes gonna run wild this year if healthy.


    better hope our o line gets healthy and gels or it will be pretty bad too dude. remember the last 3 games last year? we have no depth.

    like i said, washington will be a few games better. we'll be a couple games worse. both teams will be much improved next year.

    Is McSlabb signed past this year ?

    I think he heads to MINN with Childress next year
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  • The Juggler
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    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Wash will be 7-9 at best,they suck Mcnabb is a fraction of himself. There running backs all 20 of them are old and suck. Mcnabb will be lucky to make it thru 10 games. Santana Moss might benefit from 5 and cooley still decent,other then that there O sucks. I'd say 6-10 as for us i still see 8-8 to 10-6,with 9-7 as the most likely record. D-jack will put up 1200-1450yds hes gonna run wild this year if healthy.


    better hope our o line gets healthy and gels or it will be pretty bad too dude. remember the last 3 games last year? we have no depth.

    like i said, washington will be a few games better. we'll be a couple games worse. both teams will be much improved next year.

    Is McSlabb signed past this year ?

    I think he heads to MINN with Childress next year

    no. the cba is holding that up.

    i could totally see that happening though. good point.
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  • The Juggler
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    pjhawks wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    ok, we are gonna have to bet on this. I say 6 wins, you say 8. so we'll set the O/U at 7. you take the over, I got the under. 7 wins and it's a wash

    I'll bet whatever you want. the redskins are gonna blow as always

    7 would be a good number. but i don't like betting on another team in our own division. borderline fraudulent.

    incidentally the birds over under is 8.5....the skins? well, 7.5. shocking, right? :lol:

    Eagles over (10-6) , Skins under (but barely, 7-9). i also agree with the assertion that looking at an NFL schedule and predicting wins is kind of irrelevant for 2 reasons. number 1 no one has a clue who will be good come week 8 - so many factors can come into play. 2nd reason is i've always believed in the NFL you are what are you regardless of who you play. Teams in the NFL end up where they should as it all evens out over 16 games. it's why I think the Eagles will be around 10-6 - too much talent (if fairly healthy) to be under .500 in my opinion.

    there is a lot of factors at play. but if you have no idea who you are playing outside your division, i don't think you have much credibility throwing win/loss predictions out there. big difference between playing teams against the nfc west or the afc east for example.

    just saying this is a 10 win team or that team is a 6 win team is kind of pointless if you don't who you are playing or where you are playing them.

    either way---i love the banter gentlemen. need to see a lot of improvement friday. final tuneup for the first team. can't wait for 9/12.

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    The Jeagler wrote:
    there is a lot of factors at play. but if you have no idea who you are playing outside your division, i don't think you have much credibility throwing win/loss predictions out there. big difference between playing teams against the nfc west or the afc east for example.

    just saying this is a 10 win team or that team is a 6 win team is kind of pointless if you don't who you are playing or where you are playing them.

    either way---i love the banter gentlemen. need to see a lot of improvement friday. final tuneup for the first team. can't wait for 9/12.

    GO. BIRDS.

    the point is Jaegs right now you really don't know who is going to be good in week 8-16. so saying you are playing the Chiefs or Raiders (ok maybe you know the raiders will suck) right now doesn't really mean much. the NFL is pretty much 3-4 teams that totally suck bad and 3-4 teams at the very top - the rest are all pretty much the same and in the 7-9 to 9-7 boat. that is why i think looking at the schedule is kind of moot.
  • The Juggler
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    pjhawks wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    there is a lot of factors at play. but if you have no idea who you are playing outside your division, i don't think you have much credibility throwing win/loss predictions out there. big difference between playing teams against the nfc west or the afc east for example.

    just saying this is a 10 win team or that team is a 6 win team is kind of pointless if you don't who you are playing or where you are playing them.

    either way---i love the banter gentlemen. need to see a lot of improvement friday. final tuneup for the first team. can't wait for 9/12.

    GO. BIRDS.

    the point is Jaegs right now you really don't know who is going to be good in week 8-16. so saying you are playing the Chiefs or Raiders (ok maybe you know the raiders will suck) right now doesn't really mean much. the NFL is pretty much 3-4 teams that totally suck bad and 3-4 teams at the very top - the rest are all pretty much the same and in the 7-9 to 9-7 boat. that is why i think looking at the schedule is kind of moot.

    i understand what you are saying. i just do not totally agree with it.

    part of my reasoning that the birds could possibly get to 10 wins (more likely 9) is my belief that the early part of their schedule is easier than the second half. there's a couple teams with some weak defenses that we should take advantage of--and that will go a long way with a first year starter under center. so they should pick up some wins against teams that i do not think will be all that good and that momentum/confidence can carry them after the bye. you have to analyze the schedule.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    The Jeagler wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    there is a lot of factors at play. but if you have no idea who you are playing outside your division, i don't think you have much credibility throwing win/loss predictions out there. big difference between playing teams against the nfc west or the afc east for example.

    just saying this is a 10 win team or that team is a 6 win team is kind of pointless if you don't who you are playing or where you are playing them.

    either way---i love the banter gentlemen. need to see a lot of improvement friday. final tuneup for the first team. can't wait for 9/12.

    GO. BIRDS.

    the point is Jaegs right now you really don't know who is going to be good in week 8-16. so saying you are playing the Chiefs or Raiders (ok maybe you know the raiders will suck) right now doesn't really mean much. the NFL is pretty much 3-4 teams that totally suck bad and 3-4 teams at the very top - the rest are all pretty much the same and in the 7-9 to 9-7 boat. that is why i think looking at the schedule is kind of moot.

    i understand what you are saying. i just do not totally agree with it.

    part of my reasoning that the birds could possibly get to 10 wins (more likely 9) is my belief that the early part of their schedule is easier than the second half. there's a couple teams with some weak defenses that we should take advantage of--and that will go a long way with a first year starter under center. so they should pick up some wins against teams that i do not think will be all that good and that momentum/confidence can carry them after the bye. you have to analyze the schedule.

    most likely they will be 4-4 at the turn, then go 6-2 in the 2nd half - historically that is pretty much what Andy Reid's teams have done, regardless of schedule. they start slowly and get better and better. expect it even more this year with a new QB.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:

    the point is Jaegs right now you really don't know who is going to be good in week 8-16. so saying you are playing the Chiefs or Raiders (ok maybe you know the raiders will suck) right now doesn't really mean much. the NFL is pretty much 3-4 teams that totally suck bad and 3-4 teams at the very top - the rest are all pretty much the same and in the 7-9 to 9-7 boat. that is why i think looking at the schedule is kind of moot.

    i understand what you are saying. i just do not totally agree with it.

    part of my reasoning that the birds could possibly get to 10 wins (more likely 9) is my belief that the early part of their schedule is easier than the second half. there's a couple teams with some weak defenses that we should take advantage of--and that will go a long way with a first year starter under center. so they should pick up some wins against teams that i do not think will be all that good and that momentum/confidence can carry them after the bye. you have to analyze the schedule.

    most likely they will be 4-4 at the turn, then go 6-2 in the 2nd half - historically that is pretty much what Andy Reid's teams have done, regardless of schedule. they start slowly and get better and better. expect it even more this year with a new QB.

    no matter who is on the team. no matter who is lined up on the schedule--6-2 down the stretch regardless. good analysis my friend! :lol:

    you know 5 of their 6 division games are after the bye right?...oh that's right. you don't. only kidding dude.
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  • pjhawks
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    and for those who still think you have to run the ball in the NFL...

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/blogs/bi ... 72169.html
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    pjhawks wrote:
    and for those who still think you have to run the ball in the NFL...

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/blogs/bi ... 72169.html

    you're right. some guy named brian solomen writing a blog for nbc 10 has finally solved this age old debate. case closed. thanks.

    go back and look at every significant winnning streak under the reid era. what do most of them have in common? a more even pass/run ratio.
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  • The Juggler
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    back to significant eagles news....i am pretty stoked to see brandon graham wrestle the starting spot away from parker as of now. he's starting friday. that is a great sign. he will be a beast.

    the defense is going to surprise people. faster. more aggressive. i like where we're headed...
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,534
    The Jeagler wrote:
    back to significant eagles news....i am pretty stoked to see brandon graham wrestle the starting spot away from parker as of now. he's starting friday. that is a great sign. he will be a beast.

    the defense is going to surprise people. faster. more aggressive. i like where we're headed...

    You cu*t.
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    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    back to significant eagles news....i am pretty stoked to see brandon graham wrestle the starting spot away from parker as of now. he's starting friday. that is a great sign. he will be a beast.

    the defense is going to surprise people. faster. more aggressive. i like where we're headed...

    You cu*t.


    easy. before you know it bans will happen just for thinking about typing that word.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    if you don't look at the schedule you have no business what so ever predicting anything. utterly ridiculous.

    super bowl winning coach + franchise qb + already stout defense = a few more wins. they had one of the most inept coaches in their franchises history last year. they won 8 and 9 games the previous two years before the wheels fell off.

    rocket science, this is not. i'll wake you up next month. go back to sleep.

    ok, we are gonna have to bet on this. I say 6 wins, you say 8. so we'll set the O/U at 7. you take the over, I got the under. 7 wins and it's a wash

    I'll bet whatever you want. the redskins are gonna blow as always

    7 would be a good number. but i don't like betting on another team in our own division. borderline fraudulent.

    incidentally the birds over under is 8.5....the skins? well, 7.5. shocking, right? :lol:

    I hear you...I wouldn't want to root for the skins to win every week either. though it's pretty obvious you're still in love with mcnabb

    we'll just have to track this during the year. the skins are nothing to worry about, they're gonna suck
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